Obama gets credit for getting Pakistan to move their ass after a decade trying to get them to do this.

Pakistan's forces have killed 600 fighters, at least 7 percent of the nation's main Taliban force, in a six-week-old offensive in South Waziristan, military spokesman Athar Abbas said.

Ok, so there's only 8500 'terrorists' left. We're killing 100 a week...

Assuming it trails off a bit towards the end, in two years we'll have killed every terrorist, and there will be peace in the region!

I'm surprised they started an offensive this late in the season... I'd guess in a week or two they'll declare winter victory and go home...

"Trust them, they were definitely terrorists...or just a random number we've come up with to impress our new American friends. Anyone care for slightly bullet riddled barbecued goat?"

I_C_Weener: "Trust them, they were definitely terrorists...or just a random number we've come up with to impress our new American friends. Anyone care for slightly bullet riddled barbecued goat?"

During the Vietnam "Conflict", injuries and fatalities on both sides were published in the papers. Even as teenager, I knew they were propaganda; day after day you would see something like this:

National Liberation Front (Vietcong)
Injured: 20,000
Dead: 4,000

USA
Injured: 6
Dead: 1

Beats a Big Chicken Dinner.

I_C_Weener: "Trust them, they were definitely terrorists...or just a random number we've come up with to impress our new American friends. Anyone care for slightly bullet riddled barbecued goat?"

/leaving satisfied

Nice. I only have enough dead terrorist tickets to get the penny whistle, the spider ring, or the Chinese finger trap.

Would that make them a winner, winner?

/haven't had enough coffee yet

Good work, Peachy.

FredaDeStilleto: I_C_Weener: "Trust them, they were definitely terrorists...or just a random number we've come up with to impress our new American friends. Anyone care for slightly bullet riddled barbecued goat?"

During the Vietnam "Conflict", injuries and fatalities on both sides were published in the papers. Even as teenager, I knew they were propaganda; day after day you would see something like this:

National Liberation Front (Vietcong)
Injured: 20,000
Dead: 4,000

USA
Injured: 6
Dead: 1

Well, since we ended up killing about a million Vietnamese and lost about 58,000 Americans that sounds about right.

love it. once these psychos turned around and bit the Pak mil hand, only then did they give a shiat

KyngNothing: Pakistan's forces have killed 600 fighters, at least 7 percent of the nation's main Taliban force, in a six-week-old offensive in South Waziristan, military spokesman Athar Abbas said.

Ok, so there's only 8500 'terrorists' left. We're killing 100 a week...

Assuming it trails off a bit towards the end, in two years we'll have killed every terrorist, and there will be peace in the region!

Then we can change our Homeland Security Threat Level Color Wheel to Blue... and that's when the big bucks start rolling in... or something.

Although two of them, soldiers accidentally backed over with their cars. Luckily, they turned out to be terrorists.

Not just that i have been killing billions of terrorists every second just by washing my hands.

It still won't be enough to get them into a BCS bowl.

Fano: FredaDeStilleto: I_C_Weener: "Trust them, they were definitely terrorists...or just a random number we've come up with to impress our new American friends. Anyone care for slightly bullet riddled barbecued goat?"

During the Vietnam "Conflict", injuries and fatalities on both sides were published in the papers. Even as teenager, I knew they were propaganda; day after day you would see something like this:

National Liberation Front (Vietcong)
Injured: 20,000
Dead: 4,000

USA
Injured: 6
Dead: 1

Well, since we ended up killing about a million Vietnamese and lost about 58,000 Americans that sounds about right.

Had Walter Cronkite not declared us the losers, and had not Democrats spat on GIs returning from active duty, we would have broken the will of the Vietcong

Whoever's being killed they're not terrorists. If they're fighting a military then they're either an opposing military or a guerrilla force. Terrorists target civilian populations.

/ Think the word "terrorist" gets thrown around too frequently.

Spickus Beats a Big Chicken Dinner

I see what you did there.....

Does this mean we don't get to invade Pakistan?

Mentat: It still won't be enough to get them into a BCS bowl.

well not with India in the same division....

Nemo's Brother: Had Walter Cronkite not declared us the losers, and had not Democrats spat on GIs returning from active duty, we would have broken the will of the Vietcong

It's cute that you can say this with a straight face.

With the amount of aid we've been pumping into Pakistan, that means each of these randomly chosen petty crim--TERRORISTS!!1! cost us about $400,000 to have killed.

What a bargain!

Nemo's Brother: Fano: FredaDeStilleto: I_C_Weener: "Trust them, they were definitely terrorists...or just a random number we've come up with to impress our new American friends. Anyone care for slightly bullet riddled barbecued goat?"

During the Vietnam "Conflict", injuries and fatalities on both sides were published in the papers. Even as teenager, I knew they were propaganda; day after day you would see something like this:

National Liberation Front (Vietcong)
Injured: 20,000
Dead: 4,000

USA
Injured: 6
Dead: 1

Well, since we ended up killing about a million Vietnamese and lost about 58,000 Americans that sounds about right.

Assuming you mean Vietnamese from the North. It's closer to 3 or 4 million Vietnamese from both sides. And another 1.2 million other causalities from surrounding countries.

Had Walter Cronkite not declared us the losers, and had not Democrats spat on GIs returning from active duty, we would have broken the will of the Vietcong

Victory is not measured by body count alone.

Nemo's Brother: Fano: FredaDeStilleto: I_C_Weener: "Trust them, they were definitely terrorists...or just a random number we've come up with to impress our new American friends. Anyone care for slightly bullet riddled barbecued goat?"

During the Vietnam "Conflict", injuries and fatalities on both sides were published in the papers. Even as teenager, I knew they were propaganda; day after day you would see something like this:

National Liberation Front (Vietcong)
Injured: 20,000
Dead: 4,000

USA
Injured: 6
Dead: 1

Well, since we ended up killing about a million Vietnamese and lost about 58,000 Americans that sounds about right.

Had Walter Cronkite not declared us the losers, and had not Democrats spat on GIs returning from active duty, we would have broken the will of the Vietcong

Go read "Fire on the Lake".
It will be better for you than just posting thoughtless drivel.

at80eighty: love it. once these psychos turned around and bit the Pak mil hand, only then did they give a shiat

Brought down the world trade center then the yanks gave a shiat after training them up against the USSR.

/fixed it for ya.

Pakistan soldiers fighting in Waziristan have killed 100 terrorists man-caused disaster makers a week for the past six weeks. Just two weeks away from the free chicken dinner

FTFSubby

/don't wanna hurt their feelings calling 'em that "T" word, now

The word "terrorists" is scary. "Terrorising" is not much of a help either. I hope our government will do something to stop this menace. We share only one planet, btw.

The government says the Mehsud tribal faction comprises 5,000 to 8,000 guerrillas and sponsors 80 percent of terrorist attacks in Pakistan. Seventy soldiers have died in the campaign, Abbas said. The area is closed to reporters and casualty figures have been impossible to verify.

My propaganda meter just asploded.

Good news. Nice to see them pushing forward with large offensives in the region.

FWIW, yeah, it's largely propaganda. But if they're taking any action at all it's a nice change of pace.

Nemo's Brother: Fano: FredaDeStilleto: I_C_Weener: "Trust them, they were definitely terrorists...or just a random number we've come up with to impress our new American friends. Anyone care for slightly bullet riddled barbecued goat?"

During the Vietnam "Conflict", injuries and fatalities on both sides were published in the papers. Even as teenager, I knew they were propaganda; day after day you would see something like this:

National Liberation Front (Vietcong)
Injured: 20,000
Dead: 4,000

USA
Injured: 6
Dead: 1

Well, since we ended up killing about a million Vietnamese and lost about 58,000 Americans that sounds about right.

Had Walter Cronkite not declared us the losers, and had not Democrats spat on GIs returning from active duty, we would have broken the will of the Vietcong

Hey, a BS twofer! Your troll fu is strong.

No spitting incidents have ever been documented in '70s news reports, and even if any did occur, it would have been radical leftists, not Democrats, doing the spitting. And Nixon did exactly as Walter Cronkite advised: negotiated a "peace with honor" withdrawal after a ceasefire. It's not our fault the South Vietnamese government was so incompetent/corrupt that they couldn't beat a smaller, less well-equipped North Vietnamese army two years after we left.

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha, oh, so much bullshiat. Guys, come on. The Pakistani body counts are utterly insane. Let me share a cool story, bro.

I was deployed for my second go-round to FOB Tillman in Afghanistan, right on the Pak border IN Waziristan. We had OPs that could observe their corresponding Pak border checkpoints with thermal imaging. When I say "observe" I mean we could clearly see exactly what everyone was up to. We would ROUTINELY see groups of fighters leave the Lwara bazaar, walk to the Pak checkpoint, say hullo, and then cut the fence and walk across the border to try to emplace IEDs or rockets. We would pummel them with fire missions (FA all the way!) and they would scatter and retreat, medevacing their wounded right back to the Pak border checkpoint. We would call the Pakis on the land line and ask wtf they were doing, and they would deny ever having seen any fighters. Once, one told us when caught in a lie "well, that's just like...your opinion, man." Straight out of Lebowski. It got A LITTLE better with a new Pak border commander, but only in the sense that they would usually avoid the enemy instead of outright aiding them.

Don't believe the bullshiat. I'm not saying there isn't an offensive, or that the Pakis might finally be trying to get a little more serious. But when you hear "600 fighters OMGZ!" you should think "thirty-four fighters, three abandoned trucks, some women and kids, and a goat."

haddie

Go read "Fire on the Lake".

Why should he read worthless fundie detective fiction?

illegal.tender: Whoever's being killed they're not terrorists. If they're fighting a military then they're either an opposing military or a guerrilla force. Terrorists target civilian populations.

/ Think the word "terrorist" gets thrown around too frequently.

HAHA I was beaten to it!

/7/10
//woulda been 10/10 if you had thrown in a "b-b-b-but Bush!"

at80eighty: love it. once these psychos turned around and bit the Pak mil hand, only then did they give a shiat

Seriously.

Pakistan Army kills 'terrorists' while the Pakistan ISI continues to fund Al-Qaida and the Haqqani network.

General_Failure: Haaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha, oh, so much bullshiat. Guys, come on. The Pakistani body counts are utterly insane. Let me share a cool story, bro.

I was deployed for my second go-round to FOB Tillman in Afghanistan, right on the Pak border IN Waziristan. We had OPs that could observe their corresponding Pak border checkpoints with thermal imaging. When I say "observe" I mean we could clearly see exactly what everyone was up to. We would ROUTINELY see groups of fighters leave the Lwara bazaar, walk to the Pak checkpoint, say hullo, and then cut the fence and walk across the border to try to emplace IEDs or rockets. We would pummel them with fire missions (FA all the way!) and they would scatter and retreat, medevacing their wounded right back to the Pak border checkpoint. We would call the Pakis on the land line and ask wtf they were doing, and they would deny ever having seen any fighters. Once, one told us when caught in a lie "well, that's just like...your opinion, man." Straight out of Lebowski. It got A LITTLE better with a new Pak border commander, but only in the sense that they would usually avoid the enemy instead of outright aiding them.

Don't believe the bullshiat. I'm not saying there isn't an offensive, or that the Pakis might finally be trying to get a little more serious. But when you hear "600 fighters OMGZ!" you should think "thirty-four fighters, three abandoned trucks, some women and kids, and a goat."

Wow. I believe you less than I believe the Pakistan government.
That says something.

I_C_Weener: "Trust them, they were definitely terrorists...or just a random number we've come up with to impress our new American friends. Anyone care for slightly bullet riddled barbecued goat?"

THIS. Nothing else need be said.

General_Failure: Don't believe the bullshiat. I'm not saying there isn't an offensive, or that the Pakis might finally be trying to get a little more serious. But when you hear "600 fighters OMGZ!" you should think "thirty-four fighters, three abandoned trucks, some women and kids, and a goat."

Yup, that was my point as well. Thanks for giving some good anecdotal on that!

/still waiting to see bin Laden's head on a platter, am disappointed thus far

MBooda: haddie

Go read "Fire on the Lake".

Why should he read worthless fundie detective fiction?

Fire *in* the Lake.

Whoops!

Does this mean I won't have to cancel my vacation to Waziristan after all?

General_Failure: Haaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha, oh, so much bullshiat. Guys, come on. The Pakistani body counts are utterly insane. Let me share a cool story, bro.

I was deployed for my second go-round to FOB Tillman in Afghanistan, right on the Pak border IN Waziristan. We had OPs that could observe their corresponding Pak border checkpoints with thermal imaging. When I say "observe" I mean we could clearly see exactly what everyone was up to. We would ROUTINELY see groups of fighters leave the Lwara bazaar, walk to the Pak checkpoint, say hullo, and then cut the fence and walk across the border to try to emplace IEDs or rockets. We would pummel them with fire missions (FA all the way!) and they would scatter and retreat, medevacing their wounded right back to the Pak border checkpoint. We would call the Pakis on the land line and ask wtf they were doing, and they would deny ever having seen any fighters. Once, one told us when caught in a lie "well, that's just like...your opinion, man." Straight out of Lebowski. It got A LITTLE better with a new Pak border commander, but only in the sense that they would usually avoid the enemy instead of outright aiding them.

Don't believe the bullshiat. I'm not saying there isn't an offensive, or that the Pakis might finally be trying to get a little more serious. But when you hear "600 fighters OMGZ!" you should think "thirty-four fighters, three abandoned trucks, some women and kids, and a goat."

That was a cool story, bro.

Need to stop calling everyone terrorists, it sounds gay. Call them "Predator Targets."

haddie: General_Failure: Haaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha, oh, so much bullshiat. Guys, come on. The Pakistani body counts are utterly insane. Let me share a cool story, bro.

I was deployed for my second go-round to FOB Tillman in Afghanistan, right on the Pak border IN Waziristan. We had OPs that could observe their corresponding Pak border checkpoints with thermal imaging. When I say "observe" I mean we could clearly see exactly what everyone was up to. We would ROUTINELY see groups of fighters leave the Lwara bazaar, walk to the Pak checkpoint, say hullo, and then cut the fence and walk across the border to try to emplace IEDs or rockets. We would pummel them with fire missions (FA all the way!) and they would scatter and retreat, medevacing their wounded right back to the Pak border checkpoint. We would call the Pakis on the land line and ask wtf they were doing, and they would deny ever having seen any fighters. Once, one told us when caught in a lie "well, that's just like...your opinion, man." Straight out of Lebowski. It got A LITTLE better with a new Pak border commander, but only in the sense that they would usually avoid the enemy instead of outright aiding them.

Don't believe the bullshiat. I'm not saying there isn't an offensive, or that the Pakis might finally be trying to get a little more serious. But when you hear "600 fighters OMGZ!" you should think "thirty-four fighters, three abandoned trucks, some women and kids, and a goat."

Wow. I believe you less than I believe the Pakistan government.
That says something.

Why? It seems fairly clear-cut to me...suddenly there's a giant surge of efficiency from Pakistani troops on the remote border, most of whom are directly related to the fighters they're trying to kill? The problem with the whole "Waziristan" thing is that the local tribal infrastructure is FAR more important to people from the area than some far off government in Islamabad or Kabul. I find it very, very hard to believe that suddenly people are willing to give up their brothers and cousins as fighters to an efficient and effective Pakistani military. Yeah. If THAT seems more likely to you than Pakmil helping the Taliban, you need to read up on the border.

m1ke: Does this mean I won't have to cancel my vacation to Waziristan after all?

I hear the Himalayan foothills are beautiful this time of year.

what a terrorist might look like

Nobody should doubt Pakistan's sincerity in the fight against terrorism, Foreign Office spokesman Abdul Basit said, according to the official Associated Press of Pakistan.

Of course not. Now, about the LeT... or are we still blaming Bangladesh and "lack of information"?

Let's take those numbers, divide them by three, and we'll see a more accurate result of their operations.

Until they start collecting the left hands of the dead terrorists to show the world, their claims should be taken with a grain of salt.

AuralArgument: Brought down the world trade center then the yanks gave a shiat after training them up against the USSR.

/fixed it for ya.


not really. you simply missed the point