It must be soul crushing to be a patrol officer, you go into law enforcement to help your fellow man, solve murders, robberies, violent crimes, etc. and you end up as nothing more than a glorified revenue generator.

I had my motorcycle stolen a few years back and called the police they dispatcher practically laughed at me when I asked if they could send someone out to take a report. He said they don't send officers out unless the crime is in progress, and that he'd send me a report for my insurance. Pissed off I took a ride up the street to see if maybe it was stolen by some kids joyriding and dumping it. What do I see not three blocks from my home... No less then 10 cops sitting on a off ramp running a speeding enforcement.

must be tough being a cop. having to follow all those pesky laws and rules.

must be tough not being able to take the law into your own hands!!
what is this world coming to!!

/farking cops. I got news for you. you are not the judge nor the jury.
/cops. breaking laws since day one.

namatad: must be tough being a cop. having to follow all those pesky laws and rules.

must be tough not being able to take the law into your own hands!!
what is this world coming to!!

/farking cops. I got news for you. you are not the judge nor the jury.
/cops. breaking laws since day one.

8/10

I was about to be all pissed off about a cop being fired for using discretionary powers to lower people's alleged speed on citations. He was increasing the speed limits, instead. This guy couldn't even cut people a break right.

The speed limit is never in question. It's fixed, stamped on signs, and stuck in the ground next to the road. How fast you were going, however... that's completely debatable.

Such a load--it's clearly revenue generating when you've got a cop, everyday at a four way stop in a quiet neighborhood looking for soccer moms to make a rolling stop, where across town you have people being murdered, robbed, and killed. I've lived in San Diego, San Francisco, Boston, New York City, and New Jersey, and it's always the same.

"We don't have enough people!" I hear top cops say too often. Well--take the J.O. cop off the corner, the meter maids, and all of the other revenue generators off their corners, who aren't doing anything to serve or protect anyone.

farking cop suck fish heads

Eyebleach - thanks for the summary. I DNRTFA, so your post was helpful.

This cop was too stupid to serve. Why on earth would he adjust the speed limit upwards (making the ticket invalid due) rather than bump down the recorded speed? I can't recall whether it's provincial or federal law, but in Ontario that latter choice IS enshrined in law to the point a Chief can't enforce an order to always issue the full ticket.

TimonC346: Such a load--it's clearly revenue generating when you've got a cop, everyday at a four way stop in a quiet neighborhood looking for soccer moms to make a rolling stop, where across town you have people being murdered, robbed, and killed. I've lived in San Diego, San Francisco, Boston, New York City, and New Jersey, and it's always the same.

"We don't have enough people!" I hear top cops say too often. Well--take the J.O. cop off the corner, the meter maids, and all of the other revenue generators off their corners, who aren't doing anything to serve or protect anyone.



/Would like a word
//And to retire on a major's pension

Byno:
/Would like a word
//And to retire on a major's pension

I was just thinking of that scene where he explains to Carver about policin'. Rings very true with the discussion here.

Police officers are here to enforce the law. If you are caught speeding and you get a ticket, you deserve it. The sign says 70 mph not 75 mph. If you are park illegally and get towed, you deserve it. No parking means no parking. If you assholes start obeying the law, cops could focus on non traffic related offenses.

johm: Police officers are here to enforce the law. If you are caught speeding and you get a ticket, you deserve it. The sign says 70 mph not 75 mph. If you are park illegally and get towed, you deserve it. No parking means no parking. If you assholes start obeying the law, cops could focus on non traffic related offenses.

I heard that. I love the after ticket ranting of a driver. "I should'a got that assholes badge number!" "I'm gonna fight this bullshiat. He can't do that. Did you see how he blank blank blank." "That radar gun has to be off, I was only going blank."

It's the best part about tickets.

johm: Police officers are here to enforce the law. If you are caught speeding and you get a ticket, you deserve it. The sign says 70 mph not 75 mph. If you are park illegally and get towed, you deserve it. No parking means no parking. If you assholes start obeying the law, cops could focus on non traffic related offenses.

I wish this was truley the case.
Unfort I think this is what law enforcement started out as. It is now just used as a revune generator.

Don't think this is true, Get something stloen from your house see if they actually try to look for it. Better yet look at the officers face when you ask him the chances of getting your stuff back.

Cops now en days are there to generate cash for the city and take reports.

In other words, coolest cop in the world doesn't exist....because he's out of a job.

So the problem was not so much what he was doing, but that he wasn't up front about it. he also falsified reports.

Not telling his superiors about it, I can see that being an issue, but not one that he should be fired over. Falsifying reports though? That seems like something a defense lawyer could use to make his reports uncrediable. I farking hate cops, and the justice system. However, this seems harsh.

Falsifying reports is still a big deal though.

johm: Police officers are here to enforce the law. If you are caught speeding and you get a ticket, you deserve it. The sign says 70 mph not 75 mph. If you are park illegally and get towed, you deserve it. No parking means no parking. If you assholes start obeying the law, cops could focus on non traffic related offenses.

Yeah - that's what we need - some good old-fashioned, turn off your brain zero tolerance enforcement.

We certainly can't solve those serious crimes, we've got revenue quotas to fill!

So cops who shoot unarmed fellow citizens, break down the door of the wrong house and murder dogs, steal defendants' paperwork in open court, drunkenly run over kids, steal people's property, lie to cover up the crimes of fellow officers, etc., etc., rarely get fired.

But by crikey, this is a firing offense.

ellery: So cops who shoot unarmed fellow citizens, break down the door of the wrong house and murder dogs, steal defendants' paperwork in open court, drunkenly run over kids, steal people's property, lie to cover up the crimes of fellow officers, etc., etc., rarely get fired.

But by crikey, this is a firing offense.



But this officer cost the city revenue.

"And for God's sake, grow a mustache."

skitzo: It must be soul crushing to be a patrol officer, you go into law enforcement to help your fellow man, solve murders, robberies, violent crimes, etc. and you end up as nothing more than a glorified revenue generator.

I had my motorcycle stolen a few years back and called the police they dispatcher practically laughed at me when I asked if they could send someone out to take a report. He said they don't send officers out unless the crime is in progress, and that he'd send me a report for my insurance. Pissed off I took a ride up the street to see if maybe it was stolen by some kids joyriding and dumping it. What do I see not three blocks from my home... No less then 10 cops sitting on a off ramp running a speeding enforcement.

Very well said. I had a similar experience where my car had been broken into twice within 2 months and the police refused to send anyone. The only reason I wanted them there was to have a detailed report on what was stolen so I could claim it under my renter's insurance.

Ice T always said that cops were the worlds biggest gang

johm: Police officers are here to enforce the law. If you are caught speeding and you get a ticket, you deserve it. The sign says 70 mph not 75 mph. If you are park illegally and get towed, you deserve it. No parking means no parking. If you assholes start obeying the law, cops could focus on non traffic related offenses.

If you really want to go down this path, speed limits should be changed nation-wide to reflect road conditions. Police officers and politicians should have no say whatsoever: engineers should set speed limits, and police should then write tickets based on dangerous speeding.

The problem with most traffic laws and the enforcement of traffic laws is that they invert the concept of presumption. The justice system is supposed to function with a presumption of innocence, but they have it exactly backwards with traffic law. Once you are accused of the crime (given a ticket) you are presumed guilty. The evidenciary standards for the state or city at that point are ridiculous - any other type of case would be tossed out of the court, but not traffic, no...there the accused has to prove their innocence.

Who is going to give the break givers breaks?

I dunno, the Coast Guard?

/No breaks

I got a warning for a burned out tail light, and ate a quarter of KB for nothing.

Err, license plate light

I was not adhering to HST's Rules For Driving Fast

So this guy gets fired, but the officers that taze old women in the face are just put in anger management classes? That is farked up.

sickbeef: Ice T always said that cops were the worlds biggest gang

I never though of Ice T as the quotable type, but when he's right, he's right.

puffy999: engineers should set speed limits,

I'm an engineer and I hereby deem every road to be 70mph. 90 if it's a school zone.

This is why they don't hire intelligent cops, do as you're told drone!

TimonC346: Such a load--it's clearly revenue generating when you've got a cop, everyday at a four way stop in a quiet neighborhood looking for soccer moms to make a rolling stop, where across town you have people being murdered, robbed, and killed. I've lived in San Diego, San Francisco, Boston, New York City, and New Jersey, and it's always the same.

"We don't have enough people!" I hear top cops say too often. Well--take the J.O. cop off the corner, the meter maids, and all of the other revenue generators off their corners, who aren't doing anything to serve or protect anyone.

I hear this whine so much, but I always wonder...exactly how do you expect the police to prevent murders or robberies? This whine always breaks down when confronted by logic.

It's about revenue generation...so what? We need to have a police force and other emergency responders, they have to be funded by something. Would the idiots complaining about revenue generation complain less if general taxes were raised instead and people were allowed to speed as much as they wanted.

MycroftHolmes: It's about revenue generation...so what? We need to have a police force and other emergency responders, they have to be funded by something. Would the idiots complaining about revenue generation complain less if general taxes were raised instead and people were allowed to speed as much as they wanted.

Then police forces need to drop the act and admit that they are not more than pawns of local governments who want to raise money.

Stop the BS about "serving and protecting" when you're really just another arm of the county's budget office. Maybe then we can stop treating cops with any level of respect.

I wonder what the cop would have done with this driver (new window)?

MycroftHolmes: It's about revenue generation...so what? We need to have a police force and other emergency responders, they have to be funded by something. Would the idiots complaining about revenue generation complain less if general taxes were raised instead and people were allowed to speed as much as they wanted.

Yeah--but there is a level of enforcing the law, and raping your constituency. Again--pulling over people for rolling stops isn't really serving to protect, as is jaywalking tickets which assume you are too stupid to do it yourself.

MycroftHolmes: TimonC346: Such a load--it's clearly revenue generating when you've got a cop, everyday at a four way stop in a quiet neighborhood looking for soccer moms to make a rolling stop, where across town you have people being murdered, robbed, and killed. I've lived in San Diego, San Francisco, Boston, New York City, and New Jersey, and it's always the same.

"We don't have enough people!" I hear top cops say too often. Well--take the J.O. cop off the corner, the meter maids, and all of the other revenue generators off their corners, who aren't doing anything to serve or protect anyone.

I hear this whine so much, but I always wonder...exactly how do you expect the police to prevent murders or robberies? This whine always breaks down when confronted by logic.

Oh I don't know - maybe by getting out and working in the communities they're policing instead of sitting on a street operating a Kodak.

Using your logic, police shouldn't bother patrolling or gathering intelligence at all, just sit and wait until a crime is committed.

MycroftHolmes: It's about revenue generation...so what? We need to have a police force and other emergency responders, they have to be funded by something. Would the idiots complaining about revenue generation complain less if general taxes were raised instead and people were allowed to speed as much as they wanted.

Works for me. Drop the BS revenue collecting, let police use discretion to book dangerous drivers and forget about quota-meeting. Sure beats zero-brain enforcement.

devastation station: I got a warning for a burned out tail light, and ate a quarter of KB for nothing.

How did it taste?

I can't help but note that the one nice cop tries to be nice to people and gets fired...while just one thread down, a bunch of other cops out of narcotics (another article) who are thusly NOT nice get gunned down.

Not sayin' anything, but it's an interesting dichotomy, don't you think?

johm: Police officers are here to enforce the law. If you are caught speeding and you get a ticket, you deserve it. The sign says 70 mph not 75 mph. If you are park illegally and get towed, you deserve it. No parking means no parking. If you assholes start obeying the law, cops could focus on non traffic related offenses. new laws would have to be passed to make up for the revenue shortage.

Fixed that etc etc.

Well, i was going to side with the cop, but he was actively lying on those tickets. Even if they were for 'good', he still shouldn't have been lying. Maybe he should have set a higher speed limit to pull people over.

TimonC346: Such a load--it's clearly revenue generating when you've got a cop, everyday at a four way stop in a quiet neighborhood looking for soccer moms to make a rolling stop, where across town you have people being murdered, robbed, and killed. I've lived in San Diego, San Francisco, Boston, New York City, and New Jersey, and it's always the same.

"We don't have enough people!" I hear top cops say too often. Well--take the J.O. cop off the corner, the meter maids, and all of the other revenue generators off their corners, who aren't doing anything to serve or protect anyone.

It's simple really, you can't ticket a murderer now can you?

solitary: How did it taste?

green. The subsequent trip to the bar was fun.

//after the trip to hi/lo

Our local cops are having a bit of a turf war going on right now. The coutny boys beat the hell out of some guy at a traffic stop inside the village limit, which annoyed the village police no end. It's fun to sit there and watch the county cruisers go through with a local cruiser tailing it until it leaves the village limit.

/double the police coverage, none of the hassle
//I'm waiting for someone to get tazed over going to the wrong Tim Hortons

namatad: must be tough being a cop. having to follow all those pesky laws and rules.

must be tough not being able to take the law into your own hands!!
what is this world coming to!!

/farking cops. I got news for you. you are not the judge nor the jury.
/cops. breaking laws since day one.

Are you the same guy who was biatching in the last thread about cops being fascist bastards who hate people and give them tickets for nothing at all?

Yep, thought so. Even when a cop is doing something good, he's doing something bad. If he f*cking walked on water to save a drowning child, you'd be slamming him for not using an approved life preserver, right?

/dumbass trolls. Hating on cops because it's easier than being genuine lawbreakers since 1000 BC.

I think a revenue system where only people that do things they aren't supposed to be doing have to pay is a great idea.

He'll find other work. I hear Washington's got vacancies.

what a revenue generator might look like.

Krieghund: I think a revenue system where only people that do things they aren't supposed to be doing have to pay is a great idea.

What...like running red lights, speeding, making illegal U-turns, failure to yield the right of way, stuff like that?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
A peace officer is allowed to exercise discretion in these matters, or used to be.
Mandatory minimums should be thrown out of the judicial process, as well as law enforcement.
I've had cops give me major breaks, and I was so grateful I'd have gone to one knee and kissed his ring.
I have also heard emotion in the voice of judges as they apologetically recited the mandatory minimum to a defendant found guilty.
Prison time for "Streaking" back when it was popular? Yup, and register as a SEX OFFENDER the rest of his life.
It is said "The law is an ass" - Anon.
Case in point reinforces the above unaccredited quothe.

Barney was testifying in court on Andy's behalf in last nights rerun episode. (because Andy pissed off some big city businessman by having him appear in court for a $15 fine. The businessman hired a reporter to dig up dirt on Andy and of course found out he had been letting otis let himself in and out and wasn't ticketing "jaywalkers" etc.)

Best quote ever about law enforcement came from it...Barney said he learned one thing from Andy...
"When it comes to lawmen dealing with people it's best to not go by the book so much as the heart"

really makes me wish they made Andy Griffith mandatory to watch for training.