Seeing Crosby make accomplishments is simply like watching a knife being plunged further into a sport that is already on life support. He's all that is wrong with the sport. Please pray to your chosen god that Bettman follows Selig's lead ...

Toots McGee: Seeing Crosby make accomplishments is simply like watching a knife being plunged further into a sport that is already on life support. He's all that is wrong with the sport. Please pray to your chosen god that Bettman follows Selig's lead ...

LOL WUT?

Sounds like Flyer butthurt to me.

I think one would achieve accomplishments, rather than make them. Unless you're a video game designer.

"He's a nice enough guy, but he looks like Ben Franklin farked a Walrus."
-Bobcat Goldthwait

Toots McGee: Seeing Crosby make accomplishments is simply like watching a knife being plunged further into a sport that is already on life support. He's all that is wrong with the sport. Please pray to your chosen god that Bettman follows Selig's lead ...

I've been sick of the Crosby hype long before he entered the league, but to say that one of the most dynamic players of the day is "all that is wrong with the sport" is just beyond stupid.

Toots McGee:

Do you miss goon hockey?

I'm not a big Crosby fan truth be told but this doesn't lie in anything to do with the kid in particular or the team that he plays for. Mostly this has to do with the amount of coverage he receives. As a Canucks fan it's a bit tiring to be given the full inside scoop on what Crosby did on everyday considering my team only plays him once or twice a season.

Congrats on the hat trick I guess.

Crosby's war against hats continues. Some fans will never learn. They continuously choose to slow down the pace of the game and ruin it for everybody. Poor kid.

"People kept throwing hats," Crosby said. "And I was just asking if he could make an announcement to ask them to stop." Bet the little biatch didn't say a word this time.

Too bad there was only 6m15s left... I wanted a full 7 minute powerplay.

/Or as Bob Errey called it 'The eternal powerplay'

He's the best player in the league.

/by a LONG shot
//duh

Toots McGee: Seeing Crosby make accomplishments is simply like watching a knife being plunged further into a sport that is already on life support. He's all that is wrong with the sport. Please pray to your chosen god that Bettman follows Selig's lead ...

Cool story, bro. Why don't you continue it into

Geno and Sid are still kids by most NHL age standards. By 25, they both will be ridiculous and after all those years playing together, probably 1-2 for a long time to come. Being a wings fan, can't say I'm glad about it, but it is good for the sport.

/ go wings!
// please develop howard or sign someone half decent
/// 2 minutes for slashing

The Vancouver - Edmonton game was much more exciting, one ref even gave Edmonton a gift basket of powerplays (eg Staios took a puck to the nuts and the blind-side referee called a slash) and non-calls (eg high sticking that drew blood. was telling hordichuck that it wasn't a high stick as the blood started pouring down his face). sometimes it was within one play, eg: Edmonton knocks their own net off to stop a goal, Cogliano and Moreau have flying crosschecks, and Canucks get the extra penalty

Canucks goals were generally beautiful though, works of art

Toots McGee: Seeing Crosby make accomplishments is simply like watching a knife being plunged further into a sport that is already on life support. He's all that is wrong with the sport. Please pray to your chosen god that Bettman follows Selig's lead ...

I am a Flames fan, meaning I irrationally hate any other player of any other team and I firmly support the divinity of Iginla and the semi-divinity of the Sutter family and their farm.

That said, even I believe Crosby is a superstar and the best thing to happen to the game in years. He's re-newed Canadian interest in the game, and the Ovetchkin v. Crosby rivalry is an NHL version of Magic v. Bird. It's a new blend of skill players with size that are starting to dominate, which is both exciting and fresh. The game is doing well, the quality is high, but the league is simply being run poorly.

Bettman is an idiot that thinks the key to making hockey successful is getting it on US TV. I disagree, and think that the key to getting hockey on TV is putting it in markets where kids play hockey. Lots of Canadian cities and Northern US towns with good college and local teams that could provide great attendance.

/Crosby is remarkably civil and polite in the media. Getting on him for diving is just sour grapes. And man Grapes (Cherry) is pretty sour.

Hiro's Protagonist: The Vancouver - Edmonton game was much more exciting, one ref even gave Edmonton a gift basket of powerplays (eg Staios took a puck to the nuts and the blind-side referee called a slash) and non-calls (eg high sticking that drew blood. was telling hordichuck that it wasn't a high stick as the blood started pouring down his face). sometimes it was within one play, eg: Edmonton knocks their own net off to stop a goal, Cogliano and Moreau have flying crosschecks, and Canucks get the extra penalty

Canucks goals were generally beautiful though, works of art



It was a great night of hockey around the league last night.

Nice to see that little biatch, JVR get rocked by Colby in a Criers loss.

Katalyst: It was a great night day of hockey around the league last night.

No, no it wasn't.

/Let's go Islanders
//Day games on back-to-back days?
///At least the first one went well

Hiro's Protagonist: The Vancouver - Edmonton game was much more exciting, one ref even gave Edmonton a gift basket of powerplays (eg Staios took a puck to the nuts and the blind-side referee called a slash) and non-calls (eg high sticking that drew blood. was telling hordichuck that it wasn't a high stick as the blood started pouring down his face). sometimes it was within one play, eg: Edmonton knocks their own net off to stop a goal, Cogliano and Moreau have flying crosschecks, and Canucks get the extra penalty

Canucks goals were generally beautiful though, works of art

Not going to lie, I watched that game on replay and I was just mystified by the reffing. I didn't think it was outright biased, but I couldnt understand how they were getting the calls. Not so much terrible as inconsistent and sloppy.

Also, both the Oil and the Nucks are odd teams. Some games, they look unstoppable, and then some days they crap the old bed. Probably due to all the injuries, but I'm just not sure how good either squad really is this year. The Northwest could be majorly tough (again) if either squad gets on a roll.

The most interesting tidbit to me about last night is that the Carolina Hurricanes blew a third period lead by giving up 5 unanswered goals . . . for the second straight game.

Call the Elias sports bureau. That's gotta be pretty rare.

anyone see what Cooke did to get suspended? can't say that I'm surprised, he's been overdue for a suspension
can't believe the Canucks had both him and Jarko Ruutu (and Bertuzzi for that matter) at the same time, we must have been hated so much

Hiro's Protagonist: anyone see what Cooke did to get suspended? can't say that I'm surprised, he's been overdue for a suspension
can't believe the Canucks had both him and Jarko Ruutu (and Bertuzzi for that matter) at the same time, we must have been hated so much



Where did you hear that he has been suspended?

Cooke hit Anisimov with his shoulder. No big whoop. Certainly not as dangerous as the hit that Richards gave booth (a hit Richards was not fined or suspended for).

I'm waiting to see if Brash and Avery will be suspended. It was quite the game.

/Rags suck

Katalyst: Where did you hear that he has been suspended?

guess I heard the radio talk about the possibility of a suspension for a shoulder on head hit

Hiro's Protagonist: anyone see what Cooke did to get suspended? can't say that I'm surprised, he's been overdue for a suspension
can't believe the Canucks had both him and Jarko Ruutu (and Bertuzzi for that matter) at the same time, we must have been hated so much

You forgot Brad May.

swahnhennessy: You forgot Brad May.

"pugnacity, testosterone, truculence and belligerence"
not sure who was who though

If Crosby wasn't the spokesmodel for the NHL, I'd probably appreciate him more. Its not his fault, but I still cringe when I see his face. It'll be interesting to see where Crosby ends up among the greats of the game...but the league really needs to find something else to fixate on. I like Ovechkin more, mostly for his reckless, full tilt style of play, but his career will be much shorter than Crosby's if he doesn't tone it down a bit.

jdog71: If Crosby wasn't the spokesmodel for the NHL...


Tavaras is the next kid in waiting...

jdog71: If Crosby wasn't the spokesmodel for the NHL, I'd probably appreciate him more. Its not his fault, but I still cringe when I see his face. It'll be interesting to see where Crosby ends up among the greats of the game...but the league really needs to find something else to fixate on. I like Ovechkin more, mostly for his reckless, full tilt style of play, but his career will be much shorter than Crosby's if he doesn't tone it down a bit.

Ovechkin can't speak english and he looks like he spent most of his life being whacked in the face with hockey sticks.

The first he could work on, not much he could do about the second, but both of those things kind of take away from his ability to be a league spokesman (not that the NHL isn't trying anyways).

Is Crosby the best spokesperson? Probably not, but he's Canadian, and elite player, reasonably well spoken, and he's got marketable looks. Yeah, he can be a whiner, but so was Gretzky for the first, oh, 10 years of his career as well.

And if anyone should get a suspension from the Rangers/Penguins game last night, its Avery for jumping Fedotenko for absolutely no reason in the middle of the third.

Chak: "People kept throwing hats," Crosby said. "And I was just asking if he could make an announcement to ask them to stop." Bet the little biatch didn't say a word this time.

10 minute delay to clean up the hats. I betcha the douchebag didn't complain how long it took to clean them up. Hate him.

Crosby filling the Stanley Cup with your tears.

Papagolash: Chak: "People kept throwing hats," Crosby said. "And I was just asking if he could make an announcement to ask them to stop." Bet the little biatch didn't say a word this time.

10 minute delay to clean up the hats. I betcha the douchebag didn't complain how long it took to clean them up. Hate him.

Oh noes! The Captain of a team brought a complaint to the referees that his coach told him bring! Get the press! Get the cameras! Get the hangin' tree ready!

You really think Crosby does ANYTHING like that without his coach telling him to?

Once again, people biatching about Crosby biatching is not only hypocritical, it's irritating as fark. I'm absolutely certain that if another player's trick delayed a game today Crosby wouldn't say a word. To think otherwise is nothing more than gross naivety.

MiKelly: Once again, people biatching about Crosby biatching is not only hypocritical, it's irritating as fark. I'm absolutely certain that if another player's trick delayed a game today Crosby wouldn't say a word. To think otherwise is nothing more than gross naivety.

http://nationalsportsreview.com/sports/us/BobBirge/2009/05/05/crosby-complains- a bout-too-many-hats-on-ice-after-ovechkins-hat-trick/

\I am a Pens Fan
\\Sidney Crosby is an OUTSTANDING player
\\\Please don't hate me for this link.

Toots McGee: Seeing Crosby make accomplishments is simply like watching a knife being plunged further into a sport that is already on life support. He's all that is wrong with the sport. Please pray to your chosen god that Bettman follows Selig's lead ...


That is all.

geom_00: MiKelly: Once again, people biatching about Crosby biatching is not only hypocritical, it's irritating as fark. I'm absolutely certain that if another player's trick delayed a game today Crosby wouldn't say a word. To think otherwise is nothing more than gross naivety.

http://nationalsportsreview.com/sports/us/BobBirge/2009/05/05/crosby-complains- a bout-too-many-hats-on-ice-after-ovechkins-hat-trick/

\I am a Pens Fan
\\Sidney Crosby is an OUTSTANDING player
\\\Please don't hate me for this link.

This is the incident from the playoffs, yes? That's why I included the qualifier "today". Time breeds maturity and leaders/players/people do tend to learn from their mistakes.

Yes, I thought Crosby's request was a mistake. From that moment until today he's received nothing but flak for it and no one is letting him live that one down. But why? He's still an exceptionally skilled player who made a mistake. Let it go.

For the sake of comparison, I personally thought it was a mistake for Ovechkin to hotdog it as much as he did after his 50th goal last year. The difference is that I didn't run to the Internet and complain about it, and I don't think anyone's really harping on it anymore. I don't hate AO. He's an exceptionally skilled goal-scorer who made a mistake.

If someone wants to point out the valid difference here, be my guest...but fair is fair.

MiKelly: geom_00: MiKelly: Once again, people biatching about Crosby biatching is not only hypocritical, it's irritating as fark. I'm absolutely certain that if another player's trick delayed a game today Crosby wouldn't say a word. To think otherwise is nothing more than gross naivety.

http://nationalsportsreview.com/sports/us/BobBirge/2009/05/05/crosby-complains- a bout-too-many-hats-on-ice-after-ovechkins-hat-trick/

\I am a Pens Fan
\\Sidney Crosby is an OUTSTANDING player
\\\Please don't hate me for this link.

This is the incident from the playoffs, yes? That's why I included the qualifier "today". Time breeds maturity and leaders/players/people do tend to learn from their mistakes.

Yes, I thought Crosby's request was a mistake. From that moment until today he's received nothing but flak for it and no one is letting him live that one down. But why? He's still an exceptionally skilled player who made a mistake. Let it go.

For the sake of comparison, I personally thought it was a mistake for Ovechkin to hotdog it as much as he did after his 50th goal last year. The difference is that I didn't run to the Internet and complain about it, and I don't think anyone's really harping on it anymore. I don't hate AO. He's an exceptionally skilled goal-scorer who made a mistake.

If someone wants to point out the valid difference here, be my guest...but fair is fair.

THIS. I don't like OV much becuase of who he plays for, but aside from that...he is an AMAZING player, and I sure as hell respect him

Crosby, Malkin, OV, are three of the best, if not the three best.

geom_00: MiKelly: geom_00: MiKelly: Once again, people biatching about Crosby biatching is not only hypocritical, it's irritating as fark. I'm absolutely certain that if another player's trick delayed a game today Crosby wouldn't say a word. To think otherwise is nothing more than gross naivety.

http://nationalsportsreview.com/sports/us/BobBirge/2009/05/05/crosby-complains- a bout-too-many-hats-on-ice-after-ovechkins-hat-trick/

\I am a Pens Fan
\\Sidney Crosby is an OUTSTANDING player
\\\Please don't hate me for this link.

This is the incident from the playoffs, yes? That's why I included the qualifier "today". Time breeds maturity and leaders/players/people do tend to learn from their mistakes.

Yes, I thought Crosby's request was a mistake. From that moment until today he's received nothing but flak for it and no one is letting him live that one down. But why? He's still an exceptionally skilled player who made a mistake. Let it go.

For the sake of comparison, I personally thought it was a mistake for Ovechkin to hotdog it as much as he did after his 50th goal last year. The difference is that I didn't run to the Internet and complain about it, and I don't think anyone's really harping on it anymore. I don't hate AO. He's an exceptionally skilled goal-scorer who made a mistake.

If someone wants to point out the valid difference here, be my guest...but fair is fair.

THIS. I don't like OV much becuase of who he plays for, but aside from that...he is an AMAZING player, and I sure as hell respect him

Crosby, Malkin, OV, are three of the best, if not the three best.

Three of the best, but not the best 3. If Datsyuk or Zetterberg were in the Eastern Conference, they'd be putting up just as many (if not more) numbers than Crosby, Malkin, or OV.

I thought the situation with Crosby 'whining' to the refs about the hats was because they were thrown, cleaned up, and then the fans started throwing them again. I can't blame him for advocating for his team and wanting to get back to the game.

He still takes too many stupid retaliatory slashing penalties though.

zippolight2002: Three of the best, but not the best 3. If Datsyuk or Zetterberg were in the Eastern Conference, they'd be putting up just as many (if not more) numbers than Crosby, Malkin, or OV.

I didn't know they had different rules for the two conferences. Do they play 12 minute quarters in the West? Or are the goalies allowed to wear larger pads?

merkey88: zippolight2002: Three of the best, but not the best 3. If Datsyuk or Zetterberg were in the Eastern Conference, they'd be putting up just as many (if not more) numbers than Crosby, Malkin, or OV.

I didn't know they had different rules for the two conferences. Do they play 12 minute quarters in the West? Or are the goalies allowed to wear larger pads?

In general, I think more people think the Western Conference is more competitive than the Eastern Conference. Playing more games against more difficult opponents yields less points.

^ Better teams, or more balanced overall?

MiKelly: geom_00: MiKelly: Once again, people biatching about Crosby biatching is not only hypocritical, it's irritating as fark. I'm absolutely certain that if another player's trick delayed a game today Crosby wouldn't say a word. To think otherwise is nothing more than gross naivety.

http://nationalsportsreview.com/sports/us/BobBirge/2009/05/05/crosby-complains- a bout-too-many-hats-on-ice-after-ovechkins-hat-trick/

\I am a Pens Fan
\\Sidney Crosby is an OUTSTANDING player
\\\Please don't hate me for this link.

This is the incident from the playoffs, yes? That's why I included the qualifier "today". Time breeds maturity and leaders/players/people do tend to learn from their mistakes.

Yes, I thought Crosby's request was a mistake. From that moment until today he's received nothing but flak for it and no one is letting him live that one down. But why? He's still an exceptionally skilled player who made a mistake. Let it go.

For the sake of comparison, I personally thought it was a mistake for Ovechkin to hotdog it as much as he did after his 50th goal last year. The difference is that I didn't run to the Internet and complain about it, and I don't think anyone's really harping on it anymore. I don't hate AO. He's an exceptionally skilled goal-scorer who made a mistake.

If someone wants to point out the valid difference here, be my guest...but fair is fair.

How about...

Nobody really harps on Ovechkin for the constant cheap shiat hits he does against opponents game in and game out?

Oh noes, Crosby hit some dude in the nuts.

Ovechkin pulled a knee-on-knee hit on an opponent in the playoffs and got away with it, even though Gonchar was injured on the play and missed time.

This season, Ovechkin hit Kaleta (who is a cheap piece of garbage player, not that he deserved it anyways) from behind, face first in to the boards, and got away without a suspension, even though Kaleta was hurt. He slewfooted Rich Peverly feet first in to the boards (which is an extremely dangerous play) and got a small fine for it.

I think Ovechkin is a hugely talented player, but he gets away with far, far worse shiat than Crosby could ever hope to get away with, both in the press and suspension/penalization-wise.

Katalyst:
Where did you hear that he has been suspended?

Cooke hit Anisimov with his shoulder. No big whoop. Certainly not as dangerous as the hit that Richards gave booth (a hit Richards was not fined or suspended for).



stuff it, link

Matt Cooke is suspended 2 games

jekostas: Nobody really harps on Ovechkin for the constant cheap shiat hits he does against opponents game in and game out?

The NHL harps on Crosby and the Penguins as the league's savior all the time. Are you really surprised that whenever he does anything, no matter how minor, it makes headlines?

merkey88: ^ Better teams, or more balanced overall?

Both.

IMDWalrus: jekostas: Nobody really harps on Ovechkin for the constant cheap shiat hits he does against opponents game in and game out?

The NHL harps on Crosby and the Penguins as the league's savior all the time. Are you really surprised that whenever he does anything, no matter how minor, it makes headlines?

Stamkos was the league savior when he joined the league.
I heard stuff about Tavares being the next "Great One" some three years before he was drafted.
Ovechkin and Malkin got a ton of press when they came over and started playing.
Kane and Toews are constantly talked about (maybe a little less for Kane now).

The NHL constantly trumpets new skilled players, and slaps their faces on everything they think will sell. Crosby has been the most successful, though.

jekostas: Stamkos was the league savior when he joined the league.
I heard stuff about Tavares being the next "Great One" some three years before he was drafted.
Ovechkin and Malkin got a ton of press when they came over and started playing.
Kane and Toews are constantly talked about (maybe a little less for Kane now).

The NHL constantly trumpets new skilled players, and slaps their faces on everything they think will sell. Crosby has been the most successful, though.

I think you completely missed the point I was trying to make. Crosby is the face of the league, and if he does anything even remotely objectionable, it's going to get headlines either due to his status as Gretzky 2.0 or out of schadenfreude.

There isn't the same level of pure hate for Ovechkin, so if he does something it's more likely to slip under the radar. Because he's not Crosby.

King Arthur Fonzarelli: merkey88: zippolight2002: Three of the best, but not the best 3. If Datsyuk or Zetterberg were in the Eastern Conference, they'd be putting up just as many (if not more) numbers than Crosby, Malkin, or OV.

I didn't know they had different rules for the two conferences. Do they play 12 minute quarters in the West? Or are the goalies allowed to wear larger pads?

In general, I think more people think the Western Conference is more competitive than the Eastern Conference. Playing more games against more difficult opponents yields less points.

Defense in general for the Eastern Conference is weaker (or atleast more teams have weaker Defense than the Western Conference). Thus... stars have more room, better opportunities to put up points. The West doesn't have the luxury of playing teams like NYI, Carolina, Toronto, and Florida more than once or twice a season.

Doc Daneeka: The most interesting tidbit to me about last night is that the Carolina Hurricanes blew a third period lead by giving up 5 unanswered goals . . . for the second straight game.

Call the Elias sports bureau. That's gotta be pretty rare.

They have been developing new and previously unknown ways to loose this year. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

But hey, we get to blow up, rebuild, and Hall or Seguin will be ours. Hopefully Hall.

cptjeff: Doc Daneeka: The most interesting tidbit to me about last night is that the Carolina Hurricanes blew a third period lead by giving up 5 unanswered goals . . . for the second straight game.

Call the Elias sports bureau. That's gotta be pretty rare.

They have been developing new and previously unknown ways to lose this year. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

But hey, we get to blow up, rebuild, and Hall or Seguin will be ours. Hopefully Hall.

FTFM