Is it hating Jews?

*clicks*

Aw, damnit.

No matter what their disagreements may be, they will all find common ground in the end.

R.I.P.

That's nice.

Maybe next time, they can come together on something less stupid. Like figuring out that blowing stuff up is a bad way to get what you want.

Ignorance has always been a common ground among zealots.

jRelatively Obscure:

Hating jews and other heathens is unsaid.

They found it 9 times between the 11th and 13th centuries. There were... other issues, though.

I can't imagine how hard it'd be to wipe if my Coccyx were longer.

I thought the common ground was Jeruselem? (sp? not really careing that much)

Muslim students and academics also said they felt they were being asked to make a "binary choice" between Darwinism and creationism, rather than both having a place.
if gawd
Earthage=6,000
else
Earthage=4,000,000,000

Civil_War2_Time: I can't imagine how hard it'd be to wipe if my Coccyx were longer.

Also works great for accompanying hair. Evolution is a beautiful thing.

djkutch

Heh. I've known about dingleberry prevention for years. My dreads back there are getting a bit too long, though.

The majority of people believe what they are told to believe. very few people are capable of independent thought.

Alacritous: The majority of people believe what they are told to believe. very few people are capable of independent thought.

Gosh, that is so true.

stinieroo: Alacritous: The majority of people believe what they are told to believe. very few people are capable of independent thought.

Gosh, that is so true.

I agree with you guys.

Lionel Mandrake: stinieroo: Alacritous: The majority of people believe what they are told to believe. very few people are capable of independent thought.

Gosh, that is so true.

I agree with you guys.

Well, I for one am a Rebel... I only believe the opposite of what I'm told, so screw you conformists, you drones, you sheeple.

/Also I'm a Rogue Maverick

BackAssward: Also I'm a Rogue Maverick

I am a Maverick Rogue. DIE, Heathen Infidel!

a nice illustration of my theory that all conservative movements rely on enforced ignorance to perpetuate themselves.

Lionel Mandrake: stinieroo: Alacritous: The majority of people believe what they are told to believe. very few people are capable of independent thought.

Gosh, that is so true.

I agree with you guys.

Mee too!

Civil_War2_Time: I can't imagine how hard it'd be to wipe if my Coccyx were longer.

presumably your tail would have muscles and whatnot that would allow you to lift it up so you could wipe.

/I agree with all of these other agree'ers

oldebayer: BackAssward: Also I'm a Rogue Maverick

I am a Maverick Rogue. DIE, Heathen Infidel!

Roverick Mague, here, wishing that the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits.

God I hope we get FTL travel in my lifetime so I can get the fark off this planet.

ElQue: jRelatively Obscure:

Hating jews and other heathens is unsaid.
This!

DNRTFA but I'm guessing it's something utterly ridiculous.

Hau Ruck: Lionel Mandrake: stinieroo: Alacritous: The majority of people believe what they are told to believe. very few people are capable of independent thought.

Gosh, that is so true.

I agree with you guys.

Mee too!

You know, I never thought of it that way before!

Well, it is only a theory.

**ducks**

No fun for anyone EVER?

Relatively Obscure: Is it hating Jews?

*clicks*

Aw, damnit.

I guessed Teh Gheys. I will now shove a gerbil up my ass as penance.

There's time to hate him the other 364.
Oh Brotherhood Week -------

Thanks Tom!

Cool story bro:

I work with a bunch of engineering postgrad students, and a lot of them are muslims. A few weeks ago I was discussing evolution with a group of them and all of them were old earth creationists, except one who hadn't made up his mind. Anyway, I asked one of them if she would accept DNA evidence in a murder trial, and without a moment for pause she said of course she would, why would I ask such a stupid question?

As a Jesuit educated Catholic, Fark off

Hating Atheists?

:::clicks link:::

Anyone know the difference between Muslim creationism and Christian creationism?

/Wonders if they'll soon be fighting over which creation story should be taught.
//My favorite is still the Norse story.

excellent...stupidity squared

mgshamster: Anyone know the difference between Muslim creationism and Christian creationism?

/Wonders if they'll soon be fighting over which creation story should be taught.
//My favorite is still the Norse story.

I just checked the Quran, it says, "and Allah shoved a holy bomb up his ass and blew the blockage away bringing great relief unto his bowels. Allah then blessed the discharge, thus creating man." I may be slightly off in the translation.

both have been at "war" in one form of another for how many centuries now? I think we are close to an eon by now right?

There will always be those in any religion that are a little F'd up and take the "believe what we tell you or we kill you" approach. Seems to work on lots of people these days.

Seems the intelligent thing to do would be to not give a fark what either side thinks. If you want to believe in sky wizard that's cool, I won't try to change your mind. The real question is do you/they have enough respect to not try to change mine?

mgshamster: Anyone know the difference between Muslim creationism and Christian creationism?

In my experience, they're largely identical.

accelerus: "Seems the intelligent thing to do would be to not give a fark what either side thinks. If you want to believe in sky wizard that's cool, I won't try to change your mind. The real question is do you/they have enough respect to not try to change mine?"

So....the solution to problems caused by unreason....Is to forbid argument? Isn't that just shutting down the marketplace of ideas, making any sort of intellectual/social progress impossible?

Good one, subby.

Here in Turkey we have this cult leader, Harun Yahya, sending anti-Darwin materials to people and institutions. Creationism never was a big deal in Turkey before but this guy has a lot of people hooked. *sigh*

It won't matter what they agree on when Ragnarok comes.

But about that gay marriage thing, yeah it was Ask and Embla, not Ask and Steve.

Lionel Mandrake: stinieroo: Alacritous: The majority of people believe what they are told to believe. very few people are capable of independent thought.

Gosh, that is so true.

I agree with you guys.

Mee too!

Count me in too.

They already had common ground. I don't like either of 'em.

Relatively Obscure: Is it hating Jews?

*clicks*

Aw, damnit.

That was my first thought, too.

My second, mental retardation, seems to be correct, though.

There are none so blind as those who will NOT see.

I wonder if the 'ol' tyme religion' supporters realize that, according to the Bible, the Man is the king of the house, basically whose word shall NOT be defied by family members. The wife is basically a breeding machine and house keeper, not allowed to own property. Children can be beaten and or killed with impunity if the father has a reason to do so.

Currently, our modern laws nearly universally make all of that illegal now.

Technically, going on the Old Word, come the Sabbath, you should do nothing but sit around and read the Bible or discuss religion. No cooking, cleaning, working, shopping, watching TV, reading any other form of book or using the phone and computer. All stores should be closed under penalty of law. Atheists would not be tolerated to violate this edict.

So, how's that going these days?

The Noah's Ark thing is a grand story, until you realize the logistics, labor and supplies involved in one small family group building a massive wooden ship in the time allotted and then managing to fill it with two of every species on Earth.

Considering they had no steel tools, nor iron, but maybe bronze and copper, hacking out the ribs of a huge ship from hardwood trees would have been a Herculean effort. Roughly about that time, seafaring nations had entire industries of skilled craftsmen working long to bang out smaller war and cargo ships.

But if you look at it as a parable, where the flood may have happened on a much smaller, global scale, the family gathering up local livestock, it is possible. After all, science has discovered an area in the Middle East that shows clear signs of a small land bridge separating a huge, low area from the sea, giving way and turning the several hundred thousand miles of inhabitable land into an inland sea.

They've even found traces of villages far down along the bottom, where an ancient shore would have been.

That disaster, on such a huge scale, would be hard to grasp if it happened today.

Even the initial beginning of the story of Creation is plausible when science is figured in. The momoblock blew and suddenly, there was light and stars and darkness. Following that, galaxies formed and within them, gaseous clouds coalesced and solid matter appeared, which went on to form the planets.

You just make it all simple for simple minds which have absolutely no concept of science and not much in the way of thought beyond surviving each day intact. Since the average grasp of math was rudimentary at best (fingers and toes), telling folks it took a billion years for Earth to settle down and then millions more for cellular development to arrive and millions more before diversification began and something distantly related to people flopped out of the primal sea to begin the long tale of shiat we know of so well, might not be believed.

They wouldn't listen. The teller might be killed as a witch or sorcerer or blasphemer. The death would, naturally, be rather nasty to set an example for anyone else who dared spin such a yarn.

So, you make it simple and easy to digest, something which will fit within the limitations of comfortable local knowledge.

Geez! Toss in religion and folks loose nearly all common sense.

ACallForPeace: It won't matter what they agree on when Ragnarok comes.

But about that gay marriage thing, yeah it was Ask and Embla, not Ask and Steve.



These books were awesome.

"Many Muslim scholars, from the golden age of Islam to today, adopted an evolutionary world view,"
That's a ridiculous claim. I think what he's trying to say is that many Muslim scholars adopted a non-creationist worldview, which is actually true - at least, when you compare it to Medieval Christians.

A theory, just like gravity.

If you're going to have a Middle Eastern creation myth, why not go with one of the first ones?

When the sky above was not named,
And the earth beneath did not yet bear a name,
And the primeval Apsû, who begat them,
And chaos, Tiamat, the mother of them both,
Their waters were mingled together,
And no field was formed, no marsh was to be seen;
When of the gods none had been called into being.


Or even the Popol Vuh has some similarities:

Here is the story of the beginning,
when there was not one bird,
not one fish,
not one mountain.
Here is the sky, all alone.
Here is the sea, all alone.
There is nothing more
-no sound, no movement.
Only the sky and the sea.
Only Heart-of-Sky, alone.
And these are his names:
Maker and Modeler,
Kukulkan,
and Hurricane.
But there is no one to speak his names.
There is no one to praise his glory.
There is no one to nurture his greatness.



It seems like *everybody* eventually comes up with some kind of story.

They both have invisible friends?

mgshamster: Anyone know the difference between Muslim creationism and Christian creationism?

/Wonders if they'll soon be fighting over which creation story should be taught.
//My favorite is still the Norse story.

There's no difference. Both Christians and Muslims base their religion on the Old Testament. They have different beliefs regarding Jesus, etc., but their religious basis is essentially the same.

A theory, just like global warming. Just wait until they hack Darwin's emails!! Another coverup to be exposed!!