Retire 5 years in a row running?

Just have fun and play like a kid out there?

Get addicted to percocet?

Say what you want about Favre, but the dude is playing better than anyone in the league right now.

/as a Packers fan I hope he has a late season crash
//not likely
///go Rodgers!

ihatedumbpeople: Say what you want about Favre, but the dude is playing better than anyone in the league right now.

/as a Packers fan I hope he has a late season crash
//not likely
///go Rodgers!

Brett is playing well, but this site has him 11th in the QB list. Link (new window)

INeedAName: ihatedumbpeople: Say what you want about Favre, but the dude is playing better than anyone in the league right now.

/as a Packers fan I hope he has a late season crash
//not likely
///go Rodgers!

Brett is playing well, but this site has him 11th in the QB list. Link (new window)

I don't know how I feel about that list.

Favre has 21 TDs and 3 INTs, but he's 11? The only person even close to comparable is Aaron Rodgers, who has him beaten by yards.

...and the reason Aaron Rodgers has thrown so few picks is that he's willing to take as many sacks as he can in order to keep his numbers up, like Roethlisberger.

Favre has been lights-out this season. I can't imagine him being out of the top 5.

INeedAName: ihatedumbpeople: Say what you want about Favre, but the dude is playing better than anyone in the league right now.

/as a Packers fan I hope he has a late season crash
//not likely
///go Rodgers!

Brett is playing well, but this site has him 11th in the QB list. Link (new window)

While I like seeing Rodgers on the top of that list, NO WAY is Eli Manning higher ranked than Favre. They have Cutler just behind Favre, and that dude is awful this year.


so in other words, that site is retarded unless you care about odd fantasy football rankings, which still confuses me...how are cutler's 15/18 TD/INT comparing to Favre's 21/3 ratio?? Cutler only has 50-ish more yards, so that's not it...that site is silly.

INeedAName: ihatedumbpeople: Say what you want about Favre, but the dude is playing better than anyone in the league right now.

/as a Packers fan I hope he has a late season crash
//not likely
///go Rodgers!

Brett is playing well, but this site has him 11th in the QB list. Link (new window)

This is why fantasy football is a blight.

Treygreen13: ...and the reason Aaron Rodgers has thrown so few picks is that he's willing to take as many sacks as he can in order to keep his numbers up

lol?

First rule of quarterbacking is to take a sack rather than an INT because the risk isn't worth it. Favre leads the world in interceptions all time because there was a time where he'd rather force every throw than take a sack, and the Packers didn't win jack during that era.

As far as that guys list, it's a list of top fantasy QBs. Favre hasn't thrown for much yardage this season, which tends to be the case when you have one of the top running back corps in the league.

bhcompy: Treygreen13: ...and the reason Aaron Rodgers has thrown so few picks is that he's willing to take as many sacks as he can in order to keep his numbers up

lol?

First rule of quarterbacking is to take a sack rather than an INT because the risk isn't worth it. Favre leads the world in interceptions all time because there was a time where he'd rather force every throw than take a sack, and the Packers didn't win jack during that era.

As far as that guys list, it's a list of top fantasy QBs. Favre hasn't thrown for much yardage this season, which tends to be the case when you have one of the top running back corps in the league.

I believe the first rule of QBing would be to throw the ball away rather than take a sack, but I suppose your method of losing yards and a down is pretty cool too.

Have you watched GB this year? Rodgers has checked out of dozens of makeable throws to hold onto the ball for 10 seconds and get wrapped up for a sack. Every GB game I've seen has at least 3 moments where I'm screaming at the TV going, "THROW THE BALL! THROW THE BALL! HE'S WIDE OPEN! THROW THE BALL! DON'T PUMP FAKE IT AND SCRAMBLE, JUST.... Ok, fine, take a sack."

I'll give ya that he has improved on that recently, but in the first half of the season he was really, really bad about that.

unclejimbo827: INeedAName: ihatedumbpeople: Say what you want about Favre, but the dude is playing better than anyone in the league right now.

/as a Packers fan I hope he has a late season crash
//not likely
///go Rodgers!

Brett is playing well, but this site has him 11th in the QB list. Link (new window)

This is one of many reasons why fantasy football is a blight.

Treygreen13:
I believe the first rule of QBing would be to throw the ball away rather than take a sack, but I suppose your method of losing yards and a down is pretty cool too.

And there are various rules governing how and when you can do that. A quarterbacks coach will tell you to take the sack if you have doubt that you can throw it away without a penalty.


Have you watched GB this year? Rodgers has checked out of dozens of makeable throws to hold onto the ball for 10 seconds and get wrapped up for a sack. Every GB game I've seen has at least 3 moments where I'm screaming at the TV going, "THROW THE BALL! THROW THE BALL! HE'S WIDE OPEN! THROW THE BALL! DON'T PUMP FAKE IT AND SCRAMBLE, JUST.... Ok, fine, take a sack."

I'll give ya that he has improved on that recently, but in the first half of the season he was really, really bad about that.

I've seen a halfdozen GB games. Rodgers has disappointed at times, but he's also performed remarkably well at times. The first GB/MN game I thought was a great example of him performing well. He threw for nearly 400 yards, hit 8 different receivers, had a good completion percentage, and the whole week leading up was being measured against a hall of fame quarterback. Played admirably well considering the pressure. Rodgers definitely seems like the franchise type QB for the future, but they have to improve the line and the defense has to perform because he's still a young QB

The best quarterbacks in the league are Brees (10-0) and P. Manning (10-0).

Farve (9-1) is right behind those two.



There is only one stat that matters.

bhcompy: Treygreen13:
I believe the first rule of QBing would be to throw the ball away rather than take a sack, but I suppose your method of losing yards and a down is pretty cool too.

And there are various rules governing how and when you can do that. A quarterbacks coach will tell you to take the sack if you have doubt that you can throw it away without a penalty.


Have you watched GB this year? Rodgers has checked out of dozens of makeable throws to hold onto the ball for 10 seconds and get wrapped up for a sack. Every GB game I've seen has at least 3 moments where I'm screaming at the TV going, "THROW THE BALL! THROW THE BALL! HE'S WIDE OPEN! THROW THE BALL! DON'T PUMP FAKE IT AND SCRAMBLE, JUST.... Ok, fine, take a sack."

I'll give ya that he has improved on that recently, but in the first half of the season he was really, really bad about that.

I've seen a halfdozen GB games. Rodgers has disappointed at times, but he's also performed remarkably well at times. The first GB/MN game I thought was a great example of him performing well. He threw for nearly 400 yards, hit 8 different receivers, had a good completion percentage, and the whole week leading up was being measured against a hall of fame quarterback. Played admirably well considering the pressure. Rodgers definitely seems like the franchise type QB for the future, but they have to improve the line and the defense has to perform because he's still a young QB

I'm not arguing that, and you know it. You're never going to get me to say that Intentional Grounding is better than a sack... it isn't.

Aaron Rodgers is great, but he was holding on to the ball too long and taking unnecessary sacks at the beginning of the season. There were several times where he'd look at a makeable throw but instead dance around in the pocket for a few seconds and get wrapped up 8 yards back for a loss out of FG range.

If you want to argue the idea that Rodgers didn't do that, then fine, but I'm not going to go off on an "A. Rodgers sucks" or "Intentional Ground is Awesome" argument because you decided to assign that point to me.

This is a Sid Hartman column. Nothing to see here, move along.

I for one hope he does keep asses in seats long enough to keep the Vikes in Minnesota. I just cant stand the thought of them moving to LA. I know it's happened before but Purple Jesus will prevail and they will stay. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease dont move!

INeedAName:
Brett is playing well, but this site has him 11th in the QB list. Link (new window)

Fantasy stats are make-believe. You are playing pretend with your friends? That's super.

Here in the real world, one good gauge of a QB's performance is passer rating.

Here is non-imaginary list. Favre is #1.
Link (new window)

bhcompy: Favre leads the world in interceptions all time because there was a time where he'd rather force every throw than take a sack, and the Packers didn't win jack during that era.

Favre is 36th on that list for INTs, below Rodgers.

So, in your world, his lack of INTs make him outstanding this year. Right?

heavythumb: INeedAName:
Brett is playing well, but this site has him 11th in the QB list. Link (new window)

Fantasy stats are make-believe. You are playing pretend with your friends? That's super.

Here in the real world, one good gauge of a QB's performance is passer rating.

Here is non-imaginary list. Favre is #1.
Link (new window)

QB Rating isn't really a perfect gauge either. I mean, it is alright... but it can really hurt a QB for things he has no control over, and completely ignores the situation the QB is in.

For example:

A tipped ball for a pick is worth the same as a ball being literally handed to a DE.

An incompletion that sails over a wide open receiver on 4th down that ends the game is worth a tiny, tiny fraction of the total QB rating.

You can complete 30 dump off passes for a gain of 1 and a TD for 5 yards and put up a great QB rating.

Sapper_Topo: I for one hope he does keep asses in seats long enough to keep the Vikes in Minnesota. I just cant stand the thought of them moving to LA. I know it's happened before but Purple Jesus the Silver Fox will prevail and they will stay. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease dont move!

FTFY

You are aware that Purple Jesus is Adrian Peterson, Right?

AW or not the guy is wicked good. And he is going to take the Vikings to the Super Bowl.

/Jesus it hurt to say that.

Treygreen13: You can complete 30 dump off passes for a gain of 1 and a TD for 5 yards and put up a great QB rating.

Actually that'd be a pretty bad average per attempt, and yards per attempt is one of the biggest contributors to a high QB rating.

/football geek

Treygreen13: You can complete 30 dump off passes for a gain of 1 and a TD for 5 yards and put up a great QB rating.

Not really, yards per attempt is huge.

If you went 31/31 for 35 yards with a TD as you described, you'd only have an 89.9 QBR. Do it with 5 TDs and you're good.

Anyway, I hope the Packers pull the 2007 Giants on the Vikings, and win the only one that matters: the playoff game. Though I am not excited about the hype that will lead up to that game.

Treygreen13: ...and the reason Aaron Rodgers has thrown so few picks is that he's willing to take as many sacks as he can in order to keep his numbers up, like Roethlisberger.

And the reason that Favre has thrown so few is that he's played every game in perfect weather behind one of the best offensive lines in the league with one of the best RBs in the league to keep defenses off of him. And Rodgers isn't taking sacks because it makes his numbers better, he's taking them mostly because there's no time, but also because interceptions are far more costly than sacks, especially given the terrible offenses many of their opponents have had.

In his career with GB, GB is 2-10 in games where he throws an INT. They're winless in the 3 games he's thrown multiple INTs. However, in games with 0 INTs, they're 10-4.

I feel like I'm in some bizzaro land where people seem to have completely forgotten Brett Favre's typical late season form.

Now it may not show up this year, but everything in my gut says that the will have a 1TD 4INT game when it really matters at some point later in the season.

No Superbowl. I can't imagine that it will happen.

IAmRight: Treygreen13: You can complete 30 dump off passes for a gain of 1 and a TD for 5 yards and put up a great QB rating.

Not really, yards per attempt is huge.

If you went 31/31 for 35 yards with a TD as you described, you'd only have an 89.9 QBR. Do it with 5 TDs and you're good.

Anyway, I hope the Packers pull the 2007 Giants on the Vikings, and win the only one that matters: the playoff game. Though I am not excited about the hype that will lead up to that game.

Treygreen13: ...and the reason Aaron Rodgers has thrown so few picks is that he's willing to take as many sacks as he can in order to keep his numbers up, like Roethlisberger.

And the reason that Favre has thrown so few is that he's played every game in perfect weather behind one of the best offensive lines in the league with one of the best RBs in the league to keep defenses off of him. And Rodgers isn't taking sacks because it makes his numbers better, he's taking them mostly because there's no time, but also because interceptions are far more costly than sacks, especially given the terrible offenses many of their opponents have had.

In his career with GB, GB is 2-10 in games where he throws an INT. They're winless in the 3 games he's thrown multiple INTs. However, in games with 0 INTs, they're 10-4.

My solution. ditch Rodgers and go back to Favre :) From the math you put up is the record for Rodgers 12-14 or 12-17?

MoeSzyslak: Sapper_Topo: I for one hope he does keep asses in seats long enough to keep the Vikes in Minnesota. I just cant stand the thought of them moving to LA. I know it's happened before but Purple Jesus the Silver Fox will prevail and they will stay. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease dont move!

FTFY

You are aware that Purple Jesus is Adrian Peterson, Right?

I've seen it go both ways on Fark... One camp thinks it's Favre the other thinks it's Peterson. I happen to like the way it sounds so much I may just start referring to every member of the team that way. I still like your fix regardless. He's like a kid out there gunslingin and just having fun!

IAmRight: behind one of the best offensive lines in the league

Now that's just not true at all if you watch the Vikings. But the rest of your post is correct.

unclejimbo827: IAmRight: behind one of the best offensive lines in the league

Now that's just not true at all if you watch the Vikings. But the rest of your post is correct.

I dunno, I've seen a lot of Vikings games this year and he seems like he has plenty of time to throw usually.

Ineedaname: Brett is playing well, but this site has him 11th in the QB list. Link (new window)
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In terms of yards, maybe. But with Peterson he doesn't need to throw a lot.

In terms of TDs he's near the top. And in terms of passer rating he IS #1. And he has less interceptions than any other full time quarterback.

Hell, his career racord for fewest interceptions in a season is like 11. He's on pace for about 5.

jake3988: Ineedaname: Brett is playing well, but this site has him 11th in the QB list. Link (new window)
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In terms of yards, maybe. But with Peterson he doesn't need to throw a lot.

In terms of TDs he's near the top. And in terms of passer rating he IS #1. And he has less interceptions than any other full time quarterback.

Hell, his career racord for fewest interceptions in a season is like 11. He's on pace for about 5.

what if he channels his inner del homme or cutler?

IAmRight: Treygreen13: You can complete 30 dump off passes for a gain of 1 and a TD for 5 yards and put up a great QB rating.

Not really, yards per attempt is huge.

If you went 31/31 for 35 yards with a TD as you described, you'd only have an 89.9 QBR. Do it with 5 TDs and you're good.

Anyway, I hope the Packers pull the 2007 Giants on the Vikings, and win the only one that matters: the playoff game. Though I am not excited about the hype that will lead up to that game.

Treygreen13: ...and the reason Aaron Rodgers has thrown so few picks is that he's willing to take as many sacks as he can in order to keep his numbers up, like Roethlisberger.

And the reason that Favre has thrown so few is that he's played every game in perfect weather behind one of the best offensive lines in the league with one of the best RBs in the league to keep defenses off of him. And Rodgers isn't taking sacks because it makes his numbers better, he's taking them mostly because there's no time, but also because interceptions are far more costly than sacks, especially given the terrible offenses many of their opponents have had.

In his career with GB, GB is 2-10 in games where he throws an INT. They're winless in the 3 games he's thrown multiple INTs. However, in games with 0 INTs, they're 10-4.

Well, that is an extreme example, but considering how much of an epic failure 31/31 for 35 yards would be for an NFL Qb, 89.9 is a pretty good QB rating. The player-lifetime record is 96.8.

You can go 31/32 for 170, with a TD, a Pick-6, and take 30 sacks and put up an 86.19. It would be a hilarious failure but the QB rating would be acceptable.

InferiousX: Now it may not show up this year, but everything in my gut says that the will have multiple 1TD 4INT games when it really matters at some point later in the season.

FTFY

INeedAName: Brett is playing well, but this site has him 11th in the QB list. Link (new window)

The button for the scoring method they're using there shows that it doesn't even count INT's for -2. They're ignored. Also, Cutler scores 18.5 points for his running, while Favre scores -.3 and that's why they're as close as they are.

MoeSzyslak: Sapper_Topo: I for one hope he does keep asses in seats long enough to keep the Vikes in Minnesota. I just cant stand the thought of them moving to LA. I know it's happened before but Purple Jesus the Silver Fox will prevail and they will stay. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease dont move!

FTFY

You are aware that Purple Jesus is Adrian Peterson, Right?

You sound like a friend of mine. Who also lives in St. Paul. Who also hates Farve. And will only love him if he wins us a title. I wondering if it's you steel mill friend?
/if not I apologize for bothering you.

IAmRight: Treygreen13: You can complete 30 dump off passes for a gain of 1 and a TD for 5 yards and put up a great QB rating.

Not really, yards per attempt is huge.

If you went 31/31 for 35 yards with a TD as you described, you'd only have an 89.9 QBR. Do it with 5 TDs and you're good.

Anyway, I hope the Packers pull the 2007 Giants on the Vikings, and win the only one that matters: the playoff game. Though I am not excited about the hype that will lead up to that game.

Treygreen13: ...and the reason Aaron Rodgers has thrown so few picks is that he's willing to take as many sacks as he can in order to keep his numbers up, like Roethlisberger.

And the reason that Favre has thrown so few is that he's played every game in perfect weather behind one of the best offensive lines in the league with one of the best RBs in the league to keep defenses off of him. And Rodgers isn't taking sacks because it makes his numbers better, he's taking them mostly because there's no time, but also because interceptions are far more costly than sacks, especially given the terrible offenses many of their opponents have had.he's still a great quarterback on a great team making sound decisions to get the win, not the stats.

In his career with GB, GB is 2-10 in games where he throws an INT. They're winless in the 3 games he's thrown multiple INTs. However, in games with 0 INTs, they're 10-4.


Sounds like Green Bay needs better line, and I don't remember AR playing in any monsoons this year. Maybe a purple tidal wave in their two meetings, but I guess he feels he's better in the sack than most NFL QBs.

Besides, Favre's just slinging it around like a kid out there. Having fun, ya know?

And this is why the Owner of the Vikings flew Brett on his private jet and the coach picked him up at the airport

Treygreen13: QB Rating isn't really a perfect gauge either.

You are right about that. Here is a list of the Career Passer Rating Leaders in the history of the NFL (new window). You would never guess who is #1. NEVER.

nugatory2: Besides, Favre's just slinging it around like a kid out there. Having fun, ya know?

The point though is that Favre has been horrible recently in cold weather. Minnesota doesn't have cold weather thanks to the dome. Fortunately for the Vikings, they also don't have to worry about playing anywhere cold in the playoffs, either.

Flying Lasagna Monster: Treygreen13: QB Rating isn't really a perfect gauge either.

You are right about that. Here is a list of the Career Passer Rating Leaders in the history of the NFL (new window). You would never guess who is #1. NEVER.

Joe Namath is tied for #174. Heh.

MoeSzyslak: Sapper_Topo: I for one hope he does keep asses in seats long enough to keep the Vikes in Minnesota. I just cant stand the thought of them moving to LA. I know it's happened before but Purple Jesus the Silver Fox God's Other Son will prevail and they will stay. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease dont move!

FTFY

You are aware that Purple Jesus is Adrian Peterson, Right?

Fixed for whomever.

I hate the Intangibles argument but Farve has some pretty darned good intangibles to play here. And Farve really has I think the best team in the NFL

All Time Great Quarterback
All Time Great Running Back (*barring injury)
Excellent O-Line
Excellent Defense
Rookie WR who will be I think one of the bests in the league who played with Tebow so knows a thing or two about gunslinging

Favre is a bad mutha-
SHUT CHO MOUF!
But Im talkin bout Favre?
THEN WE CAN DIG IT!

MoeSzyslak: You are aware that Purple Jesus is Adrian Peterson, Right?

Adrian who? Is that the guy that sometimes takes the ball from BRETT FAVRE?

Treygreen13: Joe Namath is tied for #174.

And yet any NFL coach would take Broadway Joe over Rodgers in a big game.

savage henry: And yet any NFL coach would take Broadway Joe over Rodgers in a big game.

Any one who wanted to be fired. Wow, what a stupid statement.

IAmRight: savage henry: And yet any NFL coach would take Broadway Joe over Rodgers in a big game.

Any one who wanted to be fired. Wow, what a stupid statement.

A Hall of Famer
A Super Bowl winner
A National Championship winner

Or Rodgers. I looked for some accomplishments by him. There weren't any.

/I have you farkied perfectly

savage henry: Or Rodgers. I looked for some accomplishments by him. There weren't any.

Making the Cal Bears relevant is an accomplishment. Also, only a retard would use Hall of Famer and Super Bowl winner when comparing someone to a 2nd year starter. ZOMG he hasn't made the Hall of Fame yet? Man, you're right, he must be worse than the worst QB in the HoF! He hasn't won the Super Bowl in the ONE year he's completed? What a turd!

IAmRight: savage henry: Or Rodgers. I looked for some accomplishments by him. There weren't any.

Making the Cal Bears relevant is an accomplishment. Also, only a retard would use Hall of Famer and Super Bowl winner when comparing someone to a 2nd year starter. ZOMG he hasn't made the Hall of Fame yet? Man, you're right, he must be worse than the worst QB in the HoF! He hasn't won the Super Bowl in the ONE year he's completed? What a turd!

Yes, right now he's possibly the next Brett Favre, possibly the next Jeff George. That's who everyone would pick over a proven winner?

To be clear: his greatest football accomplishment is almost beating USC?

savage henry: To be clear: his greatest football accomplishment is almost beating USC?

Aside from the fact that he did beat USC, win a bowl game, earn a Rose Bowl berth that was yanked away because Mack Brown is a piece of sh*t, as is every coach that sucked him off to drop Cal a spot for a two possession win over a solid Southern Miss team on the road while Texas didn't even play...sure.

Namath's career record: 62-63. Yeah, proven winner! That Super Bowl win? 0 TDs! Dominator! Unless Namath was the one picking off Unitas 4 times I don't think he's the reason they won.

Also, let's be real. The '03/'04 USC teams would have demolished the Colts that the Jets beat in the Super Bowl.

You should update his Wiki. They have him playing in things called an Insight Bowl and a Holiday Bowl.

You're going to overall W/L record to see who would win a big game? Jesus, seems desperate.

He was the Super Bowl MVP. You honestly have to be kidding.

"He won an Insight Bowl!!!"