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(Kansas.com) Dumbass If you're a defense attorney and want to make a point in the courtroom, there are better ways to do it than by pulling the pin on a grenade and putting it on the prosecutor's table   (kansas.com) divider line 39
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ZAZ [TotalFark] 2009-11-27 11:27:12 AM  
The grenade was fake. As a prosecutor, G. Gordon Liddy fired a real gun in a courtroom to make a point.

 
Dr.Fey [TotalFark] 2009-11-27 11:29:16 AM  
That's one lawyer who should have aspired to become a fourth-rate porn star or a crack addict.

i15.photobucket.com


/or a computer engineer.

 
bronyaur1 [TotalFark] 2009-11-27 11:51:47 AM  
Actually, I suspect that this attorney's actions made EXACTLY the point he intended (plus a few others). It just wasn't effective.

 
Barakku [TotalFark] 2009-11-27 12:34:39 PM  
Sam Kepfield said the grenade was a dud and was meant to demonstrate to jurors what is meant by the term "imminent threat." The attorney pulled out the grenade Monday while representing a woman accused of forgery and theft.

Yeah, I'm sure he was just trying to define a very simple and clear concept, and not just being a melodramatic dickhead.

 
Heroic Poser 2009-11-27 01:08:40 PM  
MMmmmmm...no. No there's not.

 
Seth'n'Spectrum 2009-11-27 01:11:10 PM  
Heroic Poser: MMmmmmm...no. No there's not.

Well, there was that time with the 'special' vest...

 
Lobster_of_Hate 2009-11-27 01:12:05 PM  
In before the lawyer hate.

 
LeroyBourne 2009-11-27 01:17:07 PM  
Maybe he was on bourbon?
/Kentucky bourbon....brownest of the browns.

 
Nebulious [TotalFark] 2009-11-27 01:18:19 PM  
albanyhighcougar.com

Sometimes you need to cross examine a parrot, sometimes you need to pull the pin out of a grenade.

 
ramen_for_all [TotalFark] 2009-11-27 01:20:31 PM  
...there are better ways to do it than by pulling the pin on a grenade and putting it on the prosecutor's table

...but not many

 
Pvt Joker 2009-11-27 01:23:51 PM  
The prosecution should've filed a motion in limine to exclude use of grenades and other explosives as demonstrative evidence.

 
salvador.hardin 2009-11-27 01:24:17 PM  
"It's okay I know what I'm doing. I know the thing is out of the thing. This can come out, this stays like this. Are you with me?!!"

 
Loud_Mouth_Soup 2009-11-27 01:26:07 PM  
It's too bad the court officers didn't shoot him on the spot.

Less stupidity in the world is a good thing.

Fewer lawyers, too.

 
Manic_Repressive [TotalFark] 2009-11-27 01:30:51 PM  
I'd hire him to defend me, if only for the lulz.

Also: "That's hard to say, huh? Well, tell me something. Is it as hard to say as "Oh, my god! Somebody help me! There's a man in my office with a flamethrower'? "

/probably not obscure
//but it damn well should be

 
PenguinCam 2009-11-27 01:31:01 PM  
Dr.Fey: That's one lawyer who should have aspired to become a fourth-rate porn star or a crack addict.

/or a computer engineer.


What on earth happened to that woman's chin?

 
Kerubim 2009-11-27 01:32:47 PM  
ramen_for_all: ...there are better ways to do it than by pulling the pin on a grenade and putting it on the prosecutor's table

...but not many


/shakes tiny fist

 
SomGuye 2009-11-27 01:34:54 PM  
PenguinCam: Dr.Fey: That's one lawyer who should have aspired to become a fourth-rate porn star or a crack addict.

/or a computer engineer.

What on earth happened to that woman's chin?


Bad/Hurried Photoshopping

 
xlbrooklyn [TotalFark] 2009-11-27 01:35:09 PM  
golf clap for the lawyer

 
jebusfreak [TotalFark] 2009-11-27 01:36:12 PM  
Last time I tried to prove a point in court, I was hammered on booze and lorazepam, and was followed out of the courtroom by six cops after I swore at the judge.......WHO DISMISSED MY CASE.

 
JeffreyScott 2009-11-27 01:37:56 PM  
\The jury was not scared. They saw it for it was, a simple prop. Everyone needs to relax.

 
logruszed [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-11-27 01:42:10 PM  
Barakku: Sam Kepfield said the grenade was a dud and was meant to demonstrate to jurors what is meant by the term "imminent threat." The attorney pulled out the grenade Monday while representing a woman accused of forgery and theft.

Yeah, I'm sure he was just trying to define a very simple and clear concept, and not just being a melodramatic dickhead.


Not mutually exclusive concepts.

The J/C bible is full of melodramatic dickhead moves that nevertheless make very distinct and clear points. Rich people Vs. camels on getting in to heaven or through the eye of a needle, turning people into pillars of salt for being curious, hitting the reset button on Earth for people being dicks, telling folks to pluck out their eyes or cut off their noses, etc.

All to teach us that taxes are bad and so are homos, or something like that.

 
mrexcess [TotalFark] 2009-11-27 01:43:20 PM  
img402.imageshack.us

/oblig

 
A Tout Le Monde 2009-11-27 01:46:49 PM  
JeffreyScott: \The jury was not scared. They saw it for it was, a simple prop. Everyone needs to relax.

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=3436193 (new window)

 
ZAZ [TotalFark] 2009-11-27 01:59:03 PM  
Pvt Joker

TFA actually covers the evidentiary issue: [Assistant DA Amanda] Voth said she was surprised and didn't object.

 
LittleSmitty 2009-11-27 02:07:38 PM  
Lionel Hutz: Mrs. Simpson, what did you do after you left the restaurant?

Marge Simpson: We went home.

Lionel Hutz: Mrs. Simpson, please remember you are under oath. You have to tell the truth.

Marge Simpson: We drove around until 3:00 am looking for another fish restaurant.

Lionel Hutz: And when you couldn't find one?

Marge Simpson: We went fishing

 
Nakito 2009-11-27 02:17:58 PM  
Subpoenas

 
ozricale 2009-11-27 02:23:06 PM  
Sam Kepfield

Biography:
By day, Sam Kepfield is an attorney. By night, he is a writer of science fiction and horror. His work has appeared in the 2006 Apodis Press anthology "Goodbye, Darwin," Revolutions SF, Science Fiction Trails, and the Eternal Press site, with pieces upcoming in Jupiter SF and an Aoife's Kiss anthology.

He is a product of the Great Plains. He grew up in Larned, Kansas, received his B.A. from Kansas State University in 1986, and received his law degree from the University of Nebraska in 1989. He currently lives and works in Hutchinson, Kansas.

 
Satanic_Hamster 2009-11-27 02:26:08 PM  
ZAZ: The grenade was fake. As a prosecutor, G. Gordon Liddy fired a real gun in a courtroom to make a point.

And we know that Liddy is such a fine, outstanding citizen who isn't a moron. And as pointed out in the article, an illegal act is still an illegal act.

 
Wireless Joe 2009-11-27 02:29:35 PM  
Not above courtroom stunts.

increduyble.files.wordpress.com

 
Latinwolf [TotalFark] 2009-11-27 02:34:27 PM  
PenguinCam: Dr.Fey: That's one lawyer who should have aspired to become a fourth-rate porn star or a crack addict.

/or a computer engineer.

What on earth happened to that woman's chin?


Photoshop.

 
duncanblackthorne 2009-11-27 02:35:58 PM  
Sounds like someone has been watching too much Boston Legal!

 
Whiskey Dickens 2009-11-27 02:38:31 PM  
salvador.hardin: "It's okay I know what I'm doing. I know the thing is out of the thing. This can come out, this stays like this. Are you with me?!!"

*Nods head in urgent approval*

That was a classic scene!

 
mama's_tasty_foods 2009-11-27 02:41:45 PM  
ZAZ: The grenade was fake. As a prosecutor, G. Gordon Liddy fired a real gun in a courtroom to make a point.

That was his story:
http://books.google.com/books?id=YRty_4HT_8kC&pg=PA104&lpg=PA104&dq=gordon+lidd y +fired+gun+courtroom&source=bl&ots=RWLeQBzfLF&sig=j16FOzFT8_fyv51-yHsV5WEfI-8&hl =en&ei=9SgQS7OkDtOWtgectaitCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBgQ6A EwBA#v=onepage&q=&f=false

if he did it, he should've been disbarred.

 
lasercannon 2009-11-27 04:34:49 PM  

"The Reno County Sheriff's Office is investigating the actions of a defense attorney who pulled out a hand grenade in court this week, pulled the pin and set it on the prosecutor's table."

Are we sure tht this happened, and isn't actually from an episode of Reno 911?

www.e4.com

On the case.

 
eeeleeet [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-11-27 05:05:32 PM  
"Chewbacca is a wookie.."

/This does not make sense!

 
richlw 2009-11-27 05:36:24 PM  
img38.imageshack.us

Knows about imminent threat

/New one sucks, even not seeing the old one

 
MikeRMcCall 2009-11-27 09:24:03 PM  
*sigh*

It really is too bad that half the mad theatrics that would get gavel-banging and nothing else on prime-time TV are actually illegal in the courtroom.

 
Samalander 2009-11-27 11:36:37 PM  
Came for PW references, left happy.

 
uhlaw2000 2009-11-28 10:15:50 AM  
I witnessed a defense attorney bring brass knuckles (illegal to possess) into a courtroom during a bench trial, just to prove that the knuckles her client possessed weren't knuckles because they didn't look the same. In fact, she had her client purchase the new set of knuckles (having her client commit a new offense). I gave her client deferred adjudication mid-trial when it appeared that her best-laid plans could get her arrested - gotta feel sorry for the kid. No charges were filed on the attorney.

 
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