That's funny.

this is nothing out of the unusual. cows turn themselves inside out all the time.

What's scary is the lack of streetlights in the area.

Cows are stupid that is all!

heres a link to the blog site with photos of supposed said cattle mutilations

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If this was the 80s, we'd all be blaming the Satanists. Now what? Aliens? Chupacabra? How lame.

IA! IA! F-f-f-father!! YOG-SOTHOTH!!

Those damn aliens! Not again!

He keeps his cows inside a place that looks like NASA.

/Call the FBI
//Test that dead cow

That was Carl's fault. He's new.

3_inch_thrill: That was Carl's fault. He's new.

Thank you.

Of all the "unexplained" mysteries, this is my favorite. I don't even know where to start here.

Bugs. People, seriously, insects will strip a farking corpse of organs and soft tissue like no tomorrow.

So those were the illegal aliens Lou Dobbs has been complaining about? Well, if they kill cattle but don't add to the economy then I suppose he has an argument.

Why would anyone mutilate bizarre cattle?

No ATV tracks? Walk.

No footprints? Brush them away, depending where you step.

Bring a tarp, lure calf on to tarp, kill it, mutilate it. Buckets to haul away blood/other stuff.

Problem is the being careful takes more time and effort, making it easier to get caught.

"I've butchered a cow before and I know what kind of a mess it leaves," Sgt. James Chavez said

That's fine police work there, Lou.

/In Miami it's the horses that are being butchered.
//The illegals love horsemeat.

Mother: Cattle mutilations are up.
Donald: Don't.
Mother: Sorry.

3_inch_thrill: That was Carl's fault. He's new.

came here for that

/thanks

//meep

Maybe it was her dinner?

simpsonfan: No ATV tracks? Walk.

No footprints? Brush them away, depending where you step.

Bring a tarp, lure calf on to tarp, kill it, mutilate it. Buckets to haul away blood/other stuff.

Problem is the being careful takes more time and effort, making it easier to get caught.

That doesn't explain why there was no blood on the animal's hide surrounding the mutilation area. And how exactly would you lure a 200 pound calf onto a tarp and have it sit there while you do such a pristine job at gutting it? None of the calves had its throat cut, and none had any bullet holes, so it appears the organs were removed while they were alive. And why do it to four of them in one night?

Vultures or ravens? And/or other scavengers?

Young livestock die on occasion for whatever reason. Ate something toxic, got sick, poor genetics, who knows.

I know that many birds have a hard time opening up a carcass, but maybe calves are tender enough for them to rip open the belly. Or maybe foxes/coyotes got them instead.

BTW it's pretty dry in Colorado this time of year, I'm not sure that even a coyote would leave noticeable tracks. And something might lick up all the blood afterward.

It would definitely make sense for a carrion bird to rip off the ears ... they love those tender little goodies.

LeroyBourne: Maybe it was her dinner?

I'm lost. What is this from?

Egalitarian: Vultures or ravens? And/or other scavengers?

Young livestock die on occasion for whatever reason. Ate something toxic, got sick, poor genetics, who knows.

I know that many birds have a hard time opening up a carcass, but maybe calves are tender enough for them to rip open the belly. Or maybe foxes/coyotes got them instead.

BTW it's pretty dry in Colorado this time of year, I'm not sure that even a coyote would leave noticeable tracks. And something might lick up all the blood afterward.

It would definitely make sense for a carrion bird to rip off the ears ... they love those tender little goodies.

Doesn't quite explain why there wasn't a speck of blood on the ground, and there was no blood on the animal's hide surrounding the mutilation area. Also, the skin was pulled back, as if it was halfway peeled off. I've never heard of scavengers doing this.

The thread has been cleaned, back to the South Park references.

George Nelson?



/Baby Face

clutchcargo2009: LeroyBourne: Maybe it was her dinner?

I'm lost. What is this from?

The movie "Slither"

TomD9938: 3_inch_thrill: That was Carl's fault. He's new.

Thank you.



My bad

Unanswered questions:

How long were the calves dead for prior to mutilation? Was it even the act of mutilation that killed them?

How long were the mutilated calves out there before discovery?

What were the weather conditions for every day in the above periods?

How much of the 'messiness' of mutilation changes between a freshly dead calf and one that's been sitting for days?

Plenty of questions to answer before we can act all 'mystified' by it.

Baby Diego: Unanswered questions:

How long were the calves dead for prior to mutilation? Was it even the act of mutilation that killed them?

How long were the mutilated calves out there before discovery?

What were the weather conditions for every day in the above periods?

How much of the 'messiness' of mutilation changes between a freshly dead calf and one that's been sitting for days?

Plenty of questions to answer before we can act all 'mystified' by it.

Since the police in Southern Colorado are probably familiar with farm conditions, I would assume they've asked all of these questions. The article, such as it is, makes it sound like there aren't any obvious signs of butchery around the carcasses. If the animals were mutilated elsewhere and then moved the article implies there were also no signs of how they were transported.

I was watching some show on National Geographic a while back that debunked the whole cattle mutilation thing pretty well. They left a dead cow out in a field for a day and basically observed the "unexplained" mutilations develop through natural causes (gas bloating, evaporation, millions of insects etc.).

Maybe a mountain lion killed them and after an initial feed, where the carcass bled out, it dragged the carcass off. The dragged carcass then hid the obvious tracks.

I expect in a couple weeks and a more thorough investigation, Occam's razor will prove out and it will be wild predators and a misread scene.

clutchcargo2009: LeroyBourne: Maybe it was her dinner?

I'm lost. What is this from?

Slither. It's pretty outrageous.
/no Night of the Creeps by any means.

Subby: Local chupacabras fear they'll be blamed

Wouldn't it be the local chupa-cattle-as?

tinyarena

Since the police in Southern Colorado are probably familiar with farm conditions, I would assume they've asked all of these questions.

I don't know if I can make that assumption. You think they did enough forensics on the cattle to accurately determine a time of death and a necropsy to determine the cause of death?

The context of their statements reads more like 'we looked around the area and nothing really stands out.'

simpsonfan: No ATV tracks? Walk.

No footprints? Brush them away, depending where you step.

Bring a tarp, lure calf on to tarp, kill it, mutilate it. Buckets to haul away blood/other stuff.

Problem is the being careful takes more time and effort, making it easier to get caught.

Which is a totally logical and plausible scenario except for the bit in bold, because you haven't explained why the fark anyone would want to multiate a cow in the first place much less go through all that trouble to do it undectectably.

I'm sure Southern Colorado can get a mite boring at times, but I don't think it ever gets "mutilating animals just for the Lulz" boring

The chupacabras are real. One time my Tia Concha saw one when she was little.

Wert789: Maybe a mountain lion killed them and after an initial feed, where the carcass bled out, it dragged the carcass off. The dragged carcass then hid the obvious tracks.

I expect in a couple weeks and a more thorough investigation, Occam's razor will prove out and it will be wild predators and a misread scene.

And you don't think a large carcass being dragged leaves tracks of its own? You'd have to be a spectacularly bad tracker not to instantly see signs of where a 5ft long 2ft wide, 3-400lbs animal was dragged across the ground/into the bush.

Capybaras!

Baby Diego: tinyarena

Since the police in Southern Colorado are probably familiar with farm conditions, I would assume they've asked all of these questions.

I don't know if I can make that assumption. You think they did enough forensics on the cattle to accurately determine a time of death and a necropsy to determine the cause of death?

The context of their statements reads more like 'we looked around the area and nothing really stands out.'

Of course, I really have no idea.
I would guess a rural policeman should be able to ask the most obvious questions.

/unless of course, THEY are the aliens . . .

I think it's more plausible to have had a calf get out of its pasture, and wander onto someone's land. That someone thought 'Free Veal' and got what he needed off the calf. Realizing that it must've come from the neighbors and does not want to get charged with theft when the owner finds a calf missing, the neighbor goes and drops the carcass back on the pasture to make it seem like an act of nature (or supernature).

I still want to see the autopsy results as to the cause of death before I make any conclusions.

/Restraining a calf without bullets is rather difficult.
//Bullets, my only weakness. How did he know?

Meh there's a dead calf in my yard every few weeks.



Calves that are born dead, or aborted, my big dog brings them to the yard and snacks on them for a few weeks until they get nasty enough for me to throw out.



Life on the farm, lemme tell ya...

Sapper_Topo: Cows are stupid that is all!

CowsPeople from Colorado are stupid, that is all!

FTFY

It is not a controlled environment so some of the facts may have been simply overlooked or even incorrectly guessed at. The lack if evidence to construct an accurate picture does not support making wild unfounded claims about a ET connection by default.
Lack of blood: If a animal isn't bled out when it dies it isn't going to bleed later. The blood sets up in the veins.
No tracks: The dessert is full of life so the absents of tracks indicates that they may not be easy to find in the given conditions.
Cause of death: How about a grazing animal getting a rattle snake bite, run to death by a predator, a natural cause, lack of water, bad water, lack of salt, noxious plant, tick fever, contaminated ground, bloating, etc..
Carcass looks strangely attacked: Doesn't look like a attack of a known animal, well what about multiple things feeding the carcass like a combination of animals, insects, and bacterium.

We used to tell the tale at night at NTC of what would happen to you if you fell asleep at your post.

The exercises disturb an underground base of Reticulans that we have a treaty with - they come out at night to harvest a select few. Generally the slow runners, the pudgy, those who fall asleep or fark off on duty. When the sun rises - they find you in a pile of your equipment (that's part of the treaty - it has to be accounted for) but your goodies are cored out with a laser and all your blood is gone to make canapes for the little grey guys.

Your family is told of a helicopter accident, or maybe you got run over by a tank in the dust clouds. Any good excuse for a closed casket service.

There is an old story that they used to pick off the AF guys standing guard at Roswell in retaliation for us nabbing a few of them in the "incident", at least until the treaty was signed. Of course, that would go with the slow pudgy guys asleep at the post, too.

Obviously it's the Zeta Greys gathering organs and blood for the nutritional mixture they soak in to "feed".

Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: "I've butchered a cow before and I know what kind of a mess it leaves," Sgt. James Chavez said

That's fine police work there, Lou.

/In Miami it's the horses that are being butchered.
//The illegals love horsemeat.


I'm not a detective, but I would like to know the Sarge's whereabouts on the evening in question.