Get them up against the wall

/Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?

I remember there being praying before every test I took (Please God, let me pass, even though I didn't study, or my dad will kill me).

Another Moose-Lam looking for special treatment. History would indicate that they will attention whore until they get it.

Muslims don't need a room to pray. They can pray anywhere, as anyone who has traveled in an airport can attest to. In fact, Muslims don't even require a space to kneel and pray. If there is no such space they can just do it wherever they are sitting or standing. Besides, it's not the job of a public school to provide a room for students to pray.

Hmmm, I wonder if the Christianists are going to be all up in arms about a Muslim's right to pray in school.

coco ebert: Hmmm, I wonder if the Christianists are going to be all up in arms about a Muslim's right to pray in school.

I'm calling crickets.

At first I was like ... Oh crap, here come the Christian overreactions.
And then I was like ... Oh, she's Muslim -- nothing to see here.

/Christians are so silly

coco ebert: Muslims don't need a room to pray. They can pray anywhere, as anyone who has traveled in an airport can attest to. In fact, Muslims don't even require a space to kneel and pray. If there is no such space they can just do it wherever they are sitting or standing. Besides, it's not the job of a public school to provide a room for students to pray.

Hmmm, I wonder if the Christianists are going to be all up in arms about a Muslim's right to pray in school.

My question was why did the school even know that she was praying? If they really can prey anywhere and in anyway then it would be normal. After reading I feel as if something we left out like a whole other side of the story. By even making it known to people that she is praying she broke one of the rules. You are to pray out of the public eye otherwise it becomes self serving like what we have here which is attention whoring.

Thisbymaster: My question was why did the school even know that she was praying? If they really can prey anywhere and in anyway then it would be normal.

Freudian slip?

A better write up of the event.

Link (new window)

Thisbymaster: coco ebert: Muslims don't need a room to pray. They can pray anywhere, as anyone who has traveled in an airport can attest to. In fact, Muslims don't even require a space to kneel and pray. If there is no such space they can just do it wherever they are sitting or standing. Besides, it's not the job of a public school to provide a room for students to pray.

Hmmm, I wonder if the Christianists are going to be all up in arms about a Muslim's right to pray in school.

My question was why did the school even know that she was praying? If they really can prey anywhere and in anyway then it would be normal. After reading I feel as if something we left out like a whole other side of the story. By even making it known to people that she is praying she broke one of the rules. You are to pray out of the public eye otherwise it becomes self serving like what we have here which is attention whoring.

I could kind of understand if she was being harassed by other students because of her religion and therefore was afraid to pray even if done so quietly; but I still don't see why she would need a whole separate room.

coco ebert: Muslims don't need a room to pray. They can pray anywhere, as anyone who has traveled in an airport can attest to. In fact, Muslims don't even require a space to kneel and pray. If there is no such space they can just do it wherever they are sitting or standing. Besides, it's not the job of a public school to provide a room for students to pray.

The article says the kid was fine with praying anywhere, the school was the one who wanted her to pray in some special room (most schools have a bible study club, but they don't get a chapel), that they would not be allowed to have. I bet bossing this kid about was brought about by Christians.

Blink: At first I was like ... Oh crap, here come the Christian overreactions.
And then I was like ... Oh, she's Muslim -- nothing to see here.

/Christians are so silly

So it only ok to complain about not being able to pray in school if you're not a Christian?

/Anti-Christians are so silly.

*jimjazz: A better write up of the event.

Link (new window)

It sure is, guess every thing is working itself out properly.

FREEDOM OF RELIGION DOES NOT MEAN FREEDOM TO BE ISLAM. FIX OLD NO NEW

SRSly, I bet this was totally not what GWB and company planned on when they put that requirement into No Child Left Behind.

lajimi: Another Moose-Lam looking for special treatment. History would indicate that they will attention whore until they get it.

coco ebert: Muslims don't need a room to pray. They can pray anywhere, as anyone who has traveled in an airport can attest to. In fact, Muslims don't even require a space to kneel and pray. If there is no such space they can just do it wherever they are sitting or standing. Besides, it's not the job of a public school to provide a room for students to pray.

Hmmm, I wonder if the Christianists are going to be all up in arms about a Muslim's right to pray in school.

wow, you guys are something else.

TFA
Warsame says his niece never requested a prayer room, and that the issue only arose when school officials told her she couldn't pray on campus because the school lacked a prayer room.

Special treatment? How about basic rights that should be afforded to all peoples based on the US Constitution. Don't force me to pray in your school does not mean stop people from praying in school.

Rumpleforskin: Just have them pray behind the dumpster at the school. It better fits islam.

2/10.

Rumpleforskin: Just have them pray behind the dumpster at the school. It better fits islam.

Are you trolling? Or just one of those loving Christians I keep hearing about?

I find it hard to believe that there isn't one quiet spot somewhere in the school, and while I don't think it should be roped off for this girl, I think she should be able to seek out these quite places and use them. The school doesn't have to do anything extra but not discriminate. I am as "freedom-from-religion" as possible, and even I can't muster up the energy or logic to care if someone is praying quietly to themselves. As long as they aren't proselytizing or getting all preachy, where is the logical problem?

Savage Belief: So it only ok to complain about not being able to pray in school if you're not a Christian?

Well, if you define Christians as people who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, yeah.

Can we just agree that if it had been Christian kids trying to pray that they would have been arrested, thrown in jail, and had a restraining order filed against them by now?

Savage Belief: So it only ok to complain about not being able to pray in school if you're not a Christian?

Based on your impressive powers of reading comprehension, deduction, and logic, I'm guessing you're a Christian?

coco ebert:

My question was why did the school even know that she was praying? If they really can prey anywhere and in anyway then it would be normal. After reading I feel as if something we left out like a whole other side of the story. By even making it known to people that she is praying she broke one of the rules. You are to pray out of the public eye otherwise it becomes self serving like what we have here which is attention whoring.

I could kind of understand if she was being harassed by other students because of her religion and therefore was afraid to pray even if done so quietly; but I still don't see why she would need a whole separate room.

did you even bother to read the article before pontificating your assumptions?

aselene: Can we just agree that if it had been Christian kids trying to pray that they would have been arrested, thrown in jail, and had a restraining order filed against them by now?

no- beacuse that's stupid. you keep it up though, eMartyr

As a librul, I insist that all sorts of special provisions be made for Muslims to pray at the expense of Christians. She should have a separate room with the best carpeting available, big screen TV, nice furniture. While she is praying, all of the students who are Atheists should be forced to sit quietly and wait, and all of the Christians should be forced to go out and stand by the gutter (which better fits Christianity).

Savage Belief: Blink: At first I was like ... Oh crap, here come the Christian overreactions.
And then I was like ... Oh, she's Muslim -- nothing to see here.

/Christians are so silly

So it only ok to complain about not being able to pray in school if you're not a Christian?

/Anti-Christians are so silly.

aselene: Can we just agree that if it had been Christian kids trying to pray that they would have been arrested, thrown in jail, and had a restraining order filed against them by now?

Only if they're doing the "I'm going to pray to Yay-zuz now!" schitck.

I used to pray before a really tough final exam in highschool, but quietly. Yes, I studied as well, but it didn't erase my sheer mistrust of derivates.

Besides, the New Testament clearly states that you shouldn't announce that you're praying, fasting, or even giving money to charity. It is adviced that doing these things privately and quietly, will you truly be rewarded.

They should not encourage this sort of activity. One day she'll fail a math exam, hijack a sailboat, and BOOM! no more Brooklyn Bridge. They should lock her up in Gitmo for admitting to be Muslim. Or at least give her indefinite detention until it can be determined if she was connected to 9/11. Don't tell me I'm over-reacting. I was fishing on the lake the day the Cole blew up.

Arrested while preying on school grounds....

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Savage Belief: So it only ok to complain about not being able to pray in school if you're not a Christian?

Based on your impressive powers of reading comprehension, deduction, and logic, I'm guessing you're a Christian?

Yes, but I also have an understanding of, and appreciation for, other religious views. What bothers me is that it seems, according to Blink's comment, that it ok to biatch about not being able to pray in school as long as you're not a Christian. Which is both anti-Christian and silly.

DNRTFA

Pathman: TFA
Warsame says his niece never requested a prayer room, and that the issue only arose when school officials told her she couldn't pray on campus because the school lacked a prayer room.

Special treatment? How about basic rights that should be afforded to all peoples based on the US Constitution. Don't force me to pray in your school does not mean stop people from praying in school.

From another article on the same topic that someone linked to in this thread:

School officials have denied that Aden or anyone else has ever been denied the right to pray in school, but that the school did tell Aden's family that it would not be possible to set aside a special prayer room for Muslim students on school grounds.

Of course if what you said is what happened then it's not correct.

Savage Belief: What bothers me is that it seems, according to Blink's comment, that it ok to biatch about not being able to pray in school as long as you're not a Christian. Which is both anti-Christian and silly.

No, his comment was that if it had been a Christian being banned from praying in public schools there would be OUTRAGE! But since it was a muslim, all those people who are normally here to yell about prayer being allowed in schools will be oddly quiet. Hence the "nothing to see here", because the thread will likely be empty.

Let her pray.

Students deserve the right to practice their religion to themselves.

The only time I have a problem with it is when it's teacher-led or organized by the school itself in order to promote one particular religion.

As long as she can do it quietly, without disrupting the class, let her do it.

If the muzzies don't like it here, they are free to leave...

miscreant: Savage Belief: What bothers me is that it seems, according to Blink's comment, that it ok to biatch about not being able to pray in school as long as you're not a Christian. Which is both anti-Christian and silly.

No, his comment was that if it had been a Christian being banned from praying in public schools there would be OUTRAGE! But since it was a muslim, all those people who are normally here to yell about prayer being allowed in schools will be oddly quiet. Hence the "nothing to see here", because the thread will likely be empty.

I think it's an outrage anyway. And, if you're so into the Constitution and it's meanings, you should be too. The school should not infringe on her right to express her freedoms.

coco ebert: Pathman: TFA
Warsame says his niece never requested a prayer room, and that the issue only arose when school officials told her she couldn't pray on campus because the school lacked a prayer room.

Special treatment? How about basic rights that should be afforded to all peoples based on the US Constitution. Don't force me to pray in your school does not mean stop people from praying in school.

From another article on the same topic that someone linked to in this thread:

School officials have denied that Aden or anyone else has ever been denied the right to pray in school, but that the school did tell Aden's family that it would not be possible to set aside a special prayer room for Muslim students on school grounds.

Of course if what you said is what happened then it's not correct.

both articles state that they were the ones that said she couldn't pray in other places because of safety reasons but that setting a side a private separate area would also not be possible.
school created the problem, then said the solution was impossible.
who knows what the truth is - but i my issue with you is that she didnt ask for a separate room in either article. you skimmed it, made an assumption; got called on it.

why do you hate freedom?

Pathman: both articles state that they were the ones that said she couldn't pray in other places because of safety reasons but that setting a side a private separate area would also not be possible.
school created the problem, then said the solution was impossible.
who knows what the truth is - but i my issue with you is that she didnt ask for a separate room in either article. you skimmed it, made an assumption; got called on it.

It also says that there's a separate area in the cafeteria and in the gymnasium set aside for students to pray. I won't deny I skimmed the article and maybe got some parts of it wrong.

I don't think it's that big a deal. Why does CAIR have to get involved?

According to a press release issued by CAIR Monday, seventh-grader Nasra Aden was allegedly told by a teacher last week never to pray on school property, but then today was "informed by school officials that she would be allowed to pray in a private area. In fact, two other Muslim students joined the girl in prayer today at the school."

Levesque said that private area is actually a corner of the cafeteria at Lewiston Middle School, an area where students have regularly prayed in the past because it's in a low-traffic area.

I must be old because this was never an issue in any of the public schools I had to attend. What I do remember was always getting a boner in first period English class and then having to walk to home room while holding a notebook in front of my groin.

/nobody was fooled

Forget the prayer room. With CAIR involved, they'll demand a mosque.

Subby sounds like he smoked in the boys room.

FARTNOISE FARTNOISE JUNIOR: Rumpleforskin: Just have them pray behind the dumpster at the school. It better fits islam.

Are you trolling? Or just one of those loving Christians I keep hearing about?

Was it too true for you to see its a joke? I can stoop lower, just have the janitor rape her, then when daddy finds out he will stone her to death, problem solved on our end.

shivashakti: As long as she can do it quietly, without disrupting the class, let her do it.

You've never seen a Muslim prayer, have you? It's not a "quietly fold your hands and meditate" affair, there is an ostentatious ritual their religion requires them to go through five times a day.

Shakespeare's Monkey:...[hot teacher pic]...

I swear that's exactly how I remember my grade 6 French teacher. Lordy, she was hot...

Having RTFA and the other link above, the only douchebag in this story - as far as I can tell - is the CAIR for not at least getting the school's side of the story before filing the complaint and causing a stink, especially since all of their demands are already covered by school policies.

Tatterdemalian: You've never seen a Muslim prayer, have you? It's not a "quietly fold your hands and meditate" affair, there is an ostentatious ritual their religion requires them to go through five times a day.

Thank God real religions don't have that!

She just wants to top up her team's hit points and magic.

Superstitious a-holes.
They're supposed to be teaching critical thinking, not magic.

I hope she becomes a structural engineer.
She can pray to Allah that her bridge doesn't collapse.
Idiot religiousers.

Love all the dark sarcasms I'm reading here.