He's now dead. Fox News

Is it just me or is an article/headline mismatch here?

What is this some kind of made up location Nutty Putty Cave in Blowhole Hill, is this map from The Onion or something?



/also sorry to hear he didn't make it.

Now I Is!: Is it just me or is an article/headline mismatch here?

I think it was updated after this headline was mitted that's why there's a mismatch.

"Paging Dr. Freud.
Dr. Freud, you have a call on line three."

Since he died in the Birth Canal, does that make him stillborn?

/DRTFA.
//Best wishes to his family.

Fluorescent Testicle: Since he died in the Birth Canal, does that make him stillborn?

/DRTFA.
//Best wishes to his family.

No he's still dead. Fox News

This sport must rank up there with Parcour in terms of stupidity.

What a horrid way to die.

Think about that--trapped for hours upside down in some claustrophobic nightmare, then saved...only to end up back there, where you suffocate, fully aware the whole time.

This story gave me a sad.

"Rescue crews entered the cave around 10:30 p.m. Tuesday and spent hours trying to pull Jones free, succeeding around 5 p.m. Wednesday, Cannon said. After Jones was freed, he was given food and water before rescuers were to begin assisting him out of the cave. But around 5:45 p.m., a cord supporting Jones failed, causing him to slide 10 feet back down into the crevice."

Holy crap. I sure hope his family doesn't receive an bill for that rescue.

SuperCatBarf: What a horrid way to die.

Think about that--trapped for hours upside down in some claustrophobic nightmare, then saved...only to end up back there, where you suffocate, fully aware the whole time.

It's tough being a Cubs fan.

Jones got wedged in a narrow segment of the cave called "Bob's Push" around 8:45 p.m. Tuesday, Cannon said.

Headline/submitter .

After Jones was freed, he was given food and water before rescuers were to begin assisting him out of the cave. But around 5:45 p.m., a cord supporting Jones failed, causing him to slide 10 feet back down into the crevice.

Rescuer .

Caves are scary. I do not go into them.

The Descent was terrifying, not because of the monsters, but because of the cave. The first 35-45 minutes of that movie were incredibly harrowing.

Monsters I could handle. Maybe I could kick it in the cooze and run for it. But Caves? No farking way.

I've got a few friends who scuba dive and do bullshiat cave exploration. No thanks. I'll be out here, in the water, you go on in.

Anyone notice everyone's last name in the article was Jones?

40 watt range: Caves are scary. I do not go into them.

Go to Carlsbad sometime then. Totally G-rated cave experience. And if you're too tired to walk back out, take the elevator up.

/no matter how hot it is topside, take a sweatshirt
//stick around for the bat flight
///been there dozens of times

I've spent prolly around 50-55 hours spelunking...rappelled into caves, slept in them and stayed behind the group to assist in pulling them back up through a hole where I sat in total darkness for about an hour (which was awesome). Cavers should never go in alone..ever. The smallest group I ever went in with was like 8 or 9. we always carried food,water,rope,first aid and extra flashlight batteries..It's not dangerous unless you make it dangerous..I feel really bad for this guy but it sounds like he messed up and paid for it with his life...sucks...

fark from home: I've spent prolly around 50-55 hours spelunking...rappelled into caves, slept in them and stayed behind the group to assist in pulling them back up through a hole where I sat in total darkness for about an hour (which was awesome). Cavers should never go in alone..ever. The smallest group I ever went in with was like 8 or 9. we always carried food,water,rope,first aid and extra flashlight batteries..It's not dangerous unless you make it dangerous..I feel really bad for this guy but it sounds like he messed up and paid for it with his life...sucks...



I never bothered playing too much, that game was too damned hard anyhow.

Floyd Collins unimpressed.

"....Collins died of exposure and starvation after about fourteen days underground, three days before a rescue shaft could reach his location. His body was recovered two months later."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Collins Link

he's dead now.

shame on you guys

I saw a cheap crappy horror film where guys are stuck in a cave (not even a real one, obviously drainage pipe)

Then they draw straws and cut one guys arm off to eat it. the rest of the movie is him coming back and cutting off the other guys' arms

dude, thats not cool

how the fark could you get restuck?

In high school we used to go into some of the local small "caves" around where I grew up. Mostly just straight down into the earth type caves, maybe 20-25 feet down. Some had some pretty tight areas.

I can't imagine doing this today. Must have developed a certain amount of claustrophobia in my old age.

/RIP dude

Crews are expected to return to Nutty Putty cave this morning to begin the grim task of recovering John Jones' body from the crevice where he was trapped since Tuesday night.


Dying in Nutty Putty, you think there could be any place named that would be more demeaning to die in?
....OK maybe dying in silly putty, but I think that would be about it.

Just reading the article makes me feel like I can't breathe. I have to wonder, though, who the hell looks at a 18" x 10" hole and thinks "yeah, I can make that". Darwin was late to the party though, since this guy had already reproduced at least once.

I am so claustrophobic that even reading this article give me the shivers. I could not even imagine the horror of being pinned in a tight space like that with all those tons of dirt and rock above/around me. And to think that Floyd Collins survived it for 14 hellish days.

frizzantik: dude, thats not cool

how the fark could you get restuck?

From the information in the article, it sounds to me like the failed rescue attempt actually may have killed him. Obviously there's a bit of conjecture here though.

The article describes how he got stuck trying to slide along on his belly into a narrow space. When the ropes failed during the rescue attempt, he was basically slammed back into the same area, probably tighter.

He probably died of positional asphyxia (i.e. the tight dimensions of the crevice he was in prevented his chest from expanding sufficiently).

/prehospital, but far from the most knowledgeable SAR guy here

Very sad

Sorry the guy is dead and all, but you really are an asshat for putting yourself in that situation, and not only risking your life, but the lives of rescue personnel who have to try to unstick you. They should just concrete up that hole and solve future problems.

Oobedoob Scoobi-Doobi Benubi: fark from home: I've spent prolly around 50-55 hours spelunking...rappelled into caves, slept in them and stayed behind the group to assist in pulling them back up through a hole where I sat in total darkness for about an hour (which was awesome). Cavers should never go in alone..ever. The smallest group I ever went in with was like 8 or 9. we always carried food,water,rope,first aid and extra flashlight batteries..It's not dangerous unless you make it dangerous..I feel really bad for this guy but it sounds like he messed up and paid for it with his life...sucks...



I never bothered playing too much, that game was too damned hard anyhow.

Wow.. Spelunker! Fark, we are old.

I'd really like to know some more details about exactly what happened to cause the rescue system to fail. Having been involved in mountain rescue for many years and having done a bit of cave rescue too, I'm rather curious as to exactly what they were doing so as to make this kind of incident possible. The gear used for that sort of thing is not prone to spontaneous failure unless someone did something very wrong and massively overloaded it. Freak accidents like the rock that the system is anchored to disintegrating are always a possibility, but the odds are astronomical if the site was properly assessed to begin with.

I certainly hope there's a proper investigation into this and it's not just chalked up to random equipment failure.

there's a hole in my heart, as deep as a well for that poor little boy, who's stuck halfway to hell..

wow. that's just terrible.

i feel for his family and for the rescuers

and, of course, for him.

Rip pink floyd

In this day and age when we can prevent anything and perfectly resolve anything we didn't prevent, I am concerned and outraged at our failure to prevent and/or perfectly resolve this situation.

Bit'O'Gristle: Sorry the guy is dead and all, but you really are an asshat for putting yourself in that situation, and not only risking your life, but the lives of rescue personnel who have to try to unstick you.

When I read about dentists on Everest that's my immediate reaction. With this one, no. Why is it different? Honest question.

I can understand why people do this for a hobby

Ted's Caving Page (New Window)

So they aborted the rescue mission?

Kyosuke: After Jones was freed, he was given food and water before rescuers were to begin assisting him out of the cave.

How about just get me the f*ck out of the cave?

See? this is why you don't crawl into crevices in the ground.


Anyone who has so much read a few books or watched a discovery channel episode on caving knows about the possibilites of being stuck if you crawl into a tight channel.

Good knews tho is if they wait another day or two, the corpse should be easier to retrieve, although more desicated and insect filled.

Guy fell back in during the rescue and DIED...

SOMEBODY doesn't know their way around a cave.



/sorry

The New Orleans newspaper's website is STILL reporting him as alive:

Link (new window)

How do they know he's dead?

drjekel_mrhyde: How do they know he's dead?

My bad

Link (new window)

This is why I don't want to go caving. I would not enjoy suffocating and starving trapped upside down in a tiny crevice.

Misquoting from memory a passage from the book The Longest Cave: "He squeezed into the tight crack, reminding himself of the old cavers' saying: any place you can get into you can get out of. It is not true."

Bit'O'Gristle: Sorry the guy is dead and all, but you really are an asshat for putting yourself in that situation...

You're a judgmental asshat, and your opinion doesn't mean shiat. You put yourself into life and death situations daily, and nobody criticizes you. Just because some of us don't want to live a bland and vanilla life like yours doesn't mean those folks are asshats.

Asshat.

Ah, the actual quote is on Google books:

Pat told herself to calm down. Relax. She repeated to herself the old caving adage: Anything you can get into, you can get out of again.
(It is not true.)

I really enjoyed the book when I found it in the local library when I was 12 or so. I haven't read it in decades.

A short synopsis of the Floyd Collins story is included in the many, many footnotes of House of Leaves.

That book quickly made me decide that I will never do any outdoorsy "exploration". It's not that it will kill you... it's that it will kill you slowly enough for you to wallow in your oncoming death, but not slowly enough to ever come to peace with it.