He's my farking hero. Really, dude has huge balls.

There has been a drought since Barry Sanders of pro bowl caliber players and noe the Lions have two: Johnson and Stafford.

IamKaiserSoze!!!: There has been a drought since Barry Sanders of pro bowl caliber players and noe the Lions have two: Johnson and Stafford.

They won't be a playoff team unless they can get a defense worth putting on the field.

However, those two are the best players they've had since Barry retired.

I look forward to a 6-10 season next year (yeesh, that sounds bad).

IamKaiserSoze!!!: There has been a drought since Barry Sanders of pro bowl caliber players and noe the Lions have two: Johnson and Stafford.

And it sounds like both are injured for the game tomorrow. D'oh.

That was even more impressive now that I saw the play where the injury happened.
That he then wanted to go in and win the game... that REALLY impresses me.
He's going to be good.

I love the sportsmanship they can show each other across teams. Often, athletes can be assholes to their opponents, especially in contact sports.

SilentStrider: He's going to be good.

GODDAMMIT!!! Don't jinx him. I am just starting to think that my Lions finally didn't fark up a draft.

BackAssward: I love the sportsmanship they can show each other across teams. Often, athletes can be assholes to their opponents, especially in contact sports.

Well, it was edited.

Tunk87: SilentStrider: He's going to be good.

GODDAMMIT!!! Don't jinx him. I am just starting to think that my Lions finally didn't fark up a draft.

sorry, i mean he's going to suck worse than Akili Smith and Jamarcus Russell combined.

SilentStrider: Tunk87: SilentStrider: He's going to be good.

GODDAMMIT!!! Don't jinx him. I am just starting to think that my Lions finally didn't fark up a draft.

sorry, i mean he's going to suck worse than Akili Smith and Jamarcus Russell combined.

Much better.

/40 yrs of being a Lions fan has made me a little pessimistic about anything they do. Not sure why.

Alright, that was pretty damn cool. Tough kid.

Wish we had this for the Colts/Pats game a couple weeks ago. A real nail-biter, in a game that really mattered.

Thoguh: BackAssward: I love the sportsmanship they can show each other across teams. Often, athletes can be assholes to their opponents, especially in contact sports.

Well, it was edited.

True, but he did tel that guy good job on the sack. He also taps his opponents helmets, and at the end, on came over to him and said good job. They often help each other up after a tackle.

I've seen enough live broadcasts to say that some really are decent and respectful of their opponents.

Assuming he didn't get too seriously hurt on that second to last play, that kid might go...into the crapper. Right, Tunk87?

That was pretty tight, and I'm not even a Lions fan. This kid is clearly pretty good.

Matthew Stafford, QB, Detroit Lions: After a valiant touchdown
pass in the final seconds to lead his team to victory, his
painful left arm hanging at his side, Stafford may be forced to
sit this one out. Stafford suffered a separated left shoulder
(sprained acromioclavicular joint, where the clavicle
[collarbone] meets the acromion [tip of the shoulder blade]) and
is experiencing significant soreness. While he is fortunate that
the injury was to his non-throwing arm (an injury to his throwing
arm could have threatened the remainder of his season), the pain
will need to subside to a degree before Stafford can safely
resume his position. In the presence of a separated shoulder, any
jarring (running) or direct contact (landing on the turf again)
will exacerbate the condition. If the sprain is anything less
than a complete ligament tear, trauma this soon after the injury
could worsen the injury. While the Lions have not officially
ruled Stafford out, fantasy owners should expect that Daunte
Culpepper will be the starting quarterback against the Green Bay
Packers on Thanksgiving.

That was fun, I like that kid a lot.

Skid Roe v. Wade Boggs:

They won't be a playoff team unless they can get a defense worth putting on the field.

However, those two are the best players they've had since Barry retired.

I look forward to a 6-10 season next year (yeesh, that sounds bad).

After the past few years, 6-10 sounds like a dream.

They've got a couple pieces on D with Delmas and Levy, but they're dangerously thin on the D-Line and at Corner. So until that gets addressed they'll be terrible.

/Doesn't mean offense won't be fun to watch.
//Pettigrew is a beast.

After watching that I almost shed a tear. I remembered that these are the Lions and then I started realizing that Stafford was talking like a valley girl then it was alright. As I said in a previous thread - you must blow the team up. Position players do not matter as much as the management/staff who hires and trains them.

See Barry Sanders.

"I remembered that these are the Lions and then I started realizing that Stafford was talking like a valley girl then it was alright."

Pot meet Kettle...

Meatzilla: Daunte
Culpepper will be the starting quarterback against the Green Bay
Packers on Thanksgiving.

And this is the damn reason I woke up in a bad mood this morning. I would much rather watch them loose with Stafford then watch the steaming pile of shiat that is Daunte.

He can suck something fierce for the rest of his career and I'll give him unending respect. That had to hurt like hell.

Im a little impressed. This kid might be worth watching... if they put him on a different team ;0)

Good show...strange that a game between two 1-8 teams can actually be fun to watch.

/he better be careful around Shaun Rogers. He'll eat him.

The PI call was kinda bullshiat. Did Poteat interfere? Yes, but there was also plenty of holding going on capped by an illegal block in the back on a browns D-lineman just before Stafford launched the ball.

Yes, I'm a Browns fan, but you just don't call that penalty.

Anyway, nice job by Stafford.

I am not a Lions fan but I have been rooting for them quietly all season because a friend of mine, who died of brain cancer earlier this year, was a HUGE Lions fan...so I'm rooting for them to do well in his memory.

After seeing the end of this game on Red Zone Channel last week I thought to myself "I wanted to hate this Stafford kid but, goddamn, I really can't. That was amazing."

Now after watching this video?? This kid is my new favorite football player.

"I can throw it if you need need me to"farking BALLS of steel there. I really hope ESPN, etc don't drool all over this kid and turn him into the second coming of St Favre...I really don't want to hate this kid. I really don't.

In the meantime I will just enjoy this amazing display of amazing.

That was damned impressive.

I've said this before, but this is a good opportunity to repeat:

I want to see whole games done this way. Mike the QB, the coaches, the refs. The only announcers we hear are the stadium announcers: "Smith brought down by Jackson, first and ten on the 40."

Everything else is live on the field. Players are assured that they won't be censured for passionately saying they want to break a guy's legs. Cursing is allowed. Put it on HBO. One game a week, special, documentary style.

I think it'd be fascinating.

you don't call PI in the end zone when the BALL IS IN THE AIR and the cornerback is BULLDOZING THE WR OUT OF THE ENDZONE???
wow



one of the most blatant PI calls i've ever seen

I am now a Matt Stafford fan.

Earguy: I've said this before, but this is a good opportunity to repeat:

I want to see whole games done this way. Mike the QB, the coaches, the refs. The only announcers we hear are the stadium announcers: "Smith brought down by Jackson, first and ten on the 40."

Everything else is live on the field. Players are assured that they won't be censured for passionately saying they want to break a guy's legs. Cursing is allowed. Put it on HBO. One game a week, special, documentary style.

I think it'd be fascinating.

My friend, I heartily agree with you. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

downtownkid: The PI call was kinda bullshiat. Did Poteat interfere? Yes, but there was also plenty of holding going on...


I'm a fan of neither team, but the "but there were other worse fouls" argument is bs.

There might be 100 individual flagable offenses on any given play, but they all don't happen with no time on the clock and in the endzone.

It's a result of the dumb, undisciplined and sloppy play Cleveland has exhibited all year long. Don't make excuses for them, there was no unfair call. You said yourself it was interference. I live just outside of Cleveland, so I have no choice but to follow them. I don't think even Holmgren or Cowher could save them, unless they're given full control.


Stafford really impressed me there. Tons of respect. That hit was huge, and in the end he took charge of the team. For having only one win in the nfl under his belt at the time, he showed great potential to have a team built around his leadership.

Dislocated shoulder hurts like a biatch. You can't not be a fan of this guy now.

D3_WR: you don't call PI in the end zone when the BALL IS IN THE AIR and the cornerback is BULLDOZING THE WR OUT OF THE ENDZONE???
wow



one of the most blatant PI calls i've ever seen


It was definitely PI. It was committed on a receiver who wasn't close to the ball anyway. It was no more egregious than the block in the back RIGHT NEXT to the QB. You call one, you gotta call the other.

Has PI ever been called on a game-ending hail mary before in the entire history of the NFL?

That was amazing. Talk about guts and leadership. And he's only 21? Good for Detroit. They deserve a kid like this and I really hope he can help them turn things around.

Earguy: I've said this before, but this is a good opportunity to repeat:

I want to see whole games done this way. Mike the QB, the coaches, the refs. The only announcers we hear are the stadium announcers: "Smith brought down by Jackson, first and ten on the 40."

Everything else is live on the field. Players are assured that they won't be censured for passionately saying they want to break a guy's legs. Cursing is allowed. Put it on HBO. One game a week, special, documentary style.

I think it'd be fascinating.

Newsletter...

As to Stafford's guts and determination, as a UGA fan, let me be the first to say, "BWUH?" Kid always had the goods physically, and even mentally, but I never saw anything in the three years he was in Athens that would lead me to expect that kind of showing. Good on him.

Put Eric Berry next to Delmas next year, with a few new faces on the OL, and the Lions might eventually become a good team.

I think Stafford is going to be a really good player, if not great...but shiat, I could be pretty good if I had Calvin to throw to. Kid better be thankful for Calvin today.

/And his Dad's girlfriend is hot as shiat!

Earguy: I've said this before, but this is a good opportunity to repeat:

I want to see whole games done this way. Mike the QB, the coaches, the refs. The only announcers we hear are the stadium announcers: "Smith brought down by Jackson, first and ten on the 40."

Everything else is live on the field. Players are assured that they won't be censured for passionately saying they want to break a guy's legs. Cursing is allowed. Put it on HBO. One game a week, special, documentary style.

I think it'd be fascinating.



There was a broadcaster's strike at CBC a few years back, and for 3/4ths of the CFL season, that's all we got: Live, raw games with no commentary or play-by-play. Just the sounds of the stadium and the PA.

It sounds weird at first, like some highschool game from a camcorder, without the professional sheen of broadcasters telling you what's going on every second, but after you get used to it, it's actually quite better.

Hopefully future television technology can incorporate that kind of thing in their broadcasts: the option to turn on and turn off features.

This is good news for me, a Lions fan. Too bad he probably won't be playing today...I really want to beat the Packers.

Give him an offensive line and he's going to be one of the best.

I've always been a Bears fan, being that they were the closest team to me that didn't completely suck ass, but as a native Michigander I have always wanted the Lions to have SOMETHING. After Sanders quit early rather than staying with the fail that was Detroit, I figured that was pretty much it.

But I still pulled for them. It's like watching the special needs kid compete in regular track events because he doesn't want to go in the Special Olympics. Yeah, he doesn't have a prayer. Yeah, he probably shouldn't be going up against the big boys. But when he gets out there on the field of play, you just cheer for that little retard with all your heart while he runs his chubby ass off.

But watching Stafford play this year has given me hope, which was taken away when he was injured and they pulled Culpepper out of the retirement home again. But now that he's back, and after watching this...

I am just hoping the management and coaching staff actually knows what the hell they're doing for a change.

Also, I'm going to Detroit for a Lions game on the 20th of December, against the Cardinals. I'm not expecting a great turnout, obviously, but I am hoping for a decent game.

/24 rows up
//46 yard line
///tickets surprisingly (or unsurprisingly) cheap

NFL Films is a huge reason why football is now the American past time. Freaking fantastic video, as always. (Doesn't hurt that I'm a long-suffering Lions fan, either.)

Schwartz, Stafford, Smith, Johnson, and Foote are a solid, young foundation for the Lions to build on. My expectations remain low today, but the Lions are 11-6-1 against the Pack on Thanksgiving Day. It's not impossible.

Chicks dig the largest guaranteed contract in NFL history.

You're welcome, Detroit. Guy's got a lot of guts. Hope you enjoy him.

/UGA Alumnus
//fire Willy Martinez

I'm impressed.

Nice job.

Count me as a new fan.

Klingon Penis: Chicks dig the largest guaranteed contract in NFL history.

that is a stark contrast to the Brady Quinn pics you usually see floating about

He will be out of the league within 4 years due to injury.

Klingon Penis: NFL Films is a huge reason why football is now the American past time. Freaking fantastic video, as always. (Doesn't hurt that I'm a long-suffering Lions fan, either.)

Schwartz, Stafford, Smith, Johnson, and Foote are a solid, young foundation for the Lions to build on. My expectations remain low today, but the Lions are 11-6-1 against the Pack on Thanksgiving Day. It's not impossible.

Don't forget Pettigrew. That kid is pretty decent, too, and tall enough to catch some well-placed balls for key first downs. Plus, he's kind of an athletic freak. Anyway, I like him, too. And Delmas and Avril.

Earguy: I've said this before, but this is a good opportunity to repeat:

I want to see whole games done this way. Mike the QB, the coaches, the refs. The only announcers we hear are the stadium announcers: "Smith brought down by Jackson, first and ten on the 40."

Everything else is live on the field. Players are assured that they won't be censured for passionately saying they want to break a guy's legs. Cursing is allowed. Put it on HBO. One game a week, special, documentary style.

I think it'd be fascinating.

A few years back, the on-camera guys at the french CBC here in Canada went on strike, but not the technical guys.

That led to a number of games being broadcast with nothing but crowd noise for audio.

Absolutely awesome. I'd pay extra to have all my sports done that way.