I hate dress codes, but khaki pants and a polo shirt are not a uniform.

/hopes to see some school uniformed girls
//preferably Japanese

Students wearing unapproved clothes must remove them.

More than 1,700 parents and students signed an online petition to the Clayton school board, calling the uniforms "tyranny and oppression of adults."


If you were adults, you'd know that you're in school to sit down and shut the fark up. not to have a fashion show.

eddyatwork: /hopes to see some school uniformed girls
//preferably Japanese


great idea

Tresser: not to have a fashion show.

are you the fresh prince's mom?

if so, that was a biatch move making him move in with his auntie and uncle in bel-air just because he got in one little fight.

Tresser: More than 1,700 parents and students signed an online petition to the Clayton school board, calling the uniforms "tyranny and oppression of adults."


If you were adults, you'd know that you're in school to sit down and shut the fark up. not to have a fashion show.

So, is it that they erroneously think they're adults and that they're being oppressed, or do they mean the adults are oppressing them? Either way, their poor English skills indicate they should spend more time sitting and studying and less time b-tching and moaning.

Wait until they grow up and find out that they have to dress a certain way in order to talk to customers on the telephone ;)

One student organizer wrote, "they can't suspend you all and you will be making a stand for yourself."

But the students learned otherwise.

not bad, article writer

The sooner you learn to submit to the whims of faceless authority, the better off you'll be.

No KID should have much of a say
In how they will dress every day.
A uniform's fine,
And keeps them in line.
CONSUME, REPRODUCE, AND OBEY.

These are the same kids that can't understand why they can't get a job when they show up for job interviews with their pants sagging and speaking ebonics.

/get offa my lawn

Tresser: More than 1,700 parents and students signed an online petition to the Clayton school board, calling the uniforms "tyranny and oppression of adults."


If you were adults, you'd know that you're in school to sit down and shut the fark up. not to have a fashion show.

Yeah... but now these parents, not all of whom are financially well off, have to go and buy their snowflake(s) entire new wardrobes; at least 5 pairs of khakis and 5 polos. While they could surely go to walmart and get 10 dollar polos and 15 dollar khakis that still comes out to 125 dollars (~135 after taxes depending how bad the taxes are) that the parents otherwise wouldn't have to spend (on top of all the other school supplies) if snowflake could wear the same T-shirt he or she had last year.

Granted, I couldn't care less about the plight of Polo and Khaki uniforms being as I had a /real/ uniform in elementary and high school (plaid jumper turned skirt in 5th grade, oxford blouse, even regulated socks and sock colors)... so I have little sympathy.

Talon: Yeah... but now these parents, not all of whom are financially well off, have to go and buy their snowflake(s) entire new wardrobes; at least 5 pairs of khakis and 5 polos.

I'm pretty sure they would have spent the same amount on jeans and t-shirts.

/I think school dress codes are a good idea--not sure if I'm up for seriously debating it right now though.

Talon: Tresser: More than 1,700 parents and students signed an online petition to the Clayton school board, calling the uniforms "tyranny and oppression of adults."


If you were adults, you'd know that you're in school to sit down and shut the fark up. not to have a fashion show.

Yeah... but now these parents, not all of whom are financially well off, have to go and buy their snowflake(s) entire new wardrobes; at least 5 pairs of khakis and 5 polos. While they could surely go to walmart and get 10 dollar polos and 15 dollar khakis that still comes out to 125 dollars (~135 after taxes depending how bad the taxes are) that the parents otherwise wouldn't have to spend (on top of all the other school supplies) if snowflake could wear the same T-shirt he or she had last year.

Granted, I couldn't care less about the plight of Polo and Khaki uniforms being as I had a /real/ uniform in elementary and high school (plaid jumper turned skirt in 5th grade, oxford blouse, even regulated socks and sock colors)... so I have little sympathy.

The problem is that the school shouldn't have to worry about a cost that low. It's terrible their money situation could be so dire that this might be a problem, but that's something prospective parents should be concerned with, not schools.

Even leaving that aside, it's not like you have to spend that money all at once.

Finally, how possible do you think it is that the clothes the kids are already wearing in school are less expensive than the uniforms?

Approves

When we grew up and went to school
There were certain teachers who would
Hurt the children in any way they could

By pouring their derision
Upon anything we did
And exposing every weakness
However carefully hidden by the kids
But in the town, it was well known
When they got home at night, their fat and
Psychopathic wives would thrash them
Within inches of their lives.

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.


They learned a lesson: You don't always win your first fight...you only lose when you quit fighting.

GoDawgs!: Tresser: not to have a fashion show.

are you the fresh prince's mom?

if so, that was a biatch move making him move in with his auntie and uncle in bel-air just because he got in one little fight.

Well to be fair, she was scared.

FTFA: One student organizer wrote, "they can't suspend you all and you will be making a stand for yourself."

BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..! I love it when snowflakes melt.

CruiserTwelve: These are the same kids that can't understand why they can't get a job when they show up for job interviews with their pants sagging and speaking ebonics.

/get offa my lawn

Y'know, I'm typically AGAINST school uniforms and I used to teach high school. I find that, more often than not, mandatory uniforms end up being just a kick-back to a local supplier. But, I was in traffic court last week and was absolutely appalled by what a lot of people thought "appropriate dress" was. I saw sleep pants, sweats, filthy jeans, grubby t-shirts and more Timberlands then I could count. I had a pair of black slacks and a blouse & people kept asking if I was a lawyer. Based on your logic here and what I saw last week, I could get behind the "uniform" this district requires: generic khakis w/a polo or sweater. Teach the kids that they have to dress a certain way for certain functions.

/And it's sad that a school district has to do that.
//The father in TFA is a whiner. It's just a pair of khakis, which can be worn anywhere.

mattharvest: Finally, how possible do you think it is that the clothes the kids are already wearing in school are less expensive than the uniforms?

See that's the difference between a sunk cost, and a new cost. The parents already own an entire set of clothing for their children... clothing that was likely (if they are poor) bought over a long period of time, handed down from family and friends of the family. I'm fairly certain they didn't go out and buy everything their child would otherwise wear all at once, which is the problem - the poorer parents will now have to go and, all at once, buy a whole new set of clothing for their children.

When living paycheck to paycheck there's a big difference between 10 dollars a month to replace pieces in an existing wardrobe, and 130+ to replace an entire wardrobe all at once.

Talon: mattharvest: Finally, how possible do you think it is that the clothes the kids are already wearing in school are less expensive than the uniforms?

See that's the difference between a sunk cost, and a new cost. The parents already own an entire set of clothing for their children... clothing that was likely (if they are poor) bought over a long period of time, handed down from family and friends of the family. I'm fairly certain they didn't go out and buy everything their child would otherwise wear all at once, which is the problem - the poorer parents will now have to go and, all at once, buy a whole new set of clothing for their children.

When living paycheck to paycheck there's a big difference between 10 dollars a month to replace pieces in an existing wardrobe, and 130+ to replace an entire wardrobe all at once.

Again, they don't need to buy all the clothes at once.

However, more broadly you're missing my point: these parents sunk the costs into very poor decisions, i.e. clothes that weren't appropriate enough for the school. While individual parents may have done so, it is clear from the need for a dress code that collectively the parents failed to do so.

I approve of this. Not because I have an opinion one way or the other on dress codes, rather I'm a strong advocate of tormenting children.

mattharvest: Talon: mattharvest: Finally, how possible do you think it is that the clothes the kids are already wearing in school are less expensive than the uniforms?

See that's the difference between a sunk cost, and a new cost. The parents already own an entire set of clothing for their children... clothing that was likely (if they are poor) bought over a long period of time, handed down from family and friends of the family. I'm fairly certain they didn't go out and buy everything their child would otherwise wear all at once, which is the problem - the poorer parents will now have to go and, all at once, buy a whole new set of clothing for their children.

When living paycheck to paycheck there's a big difference between 10 dollars a month to replace pieces in an existing wardrobe, and 130+ to replace an entire wardrobe all at once.

Again, they don't need to buy all the clothes at once.

However, more broadly you're missing my point: these parents sunk the costs into very poor decisions, i.e. clothes that weren't appropriate enough for the school. While individual parents may have done so, it is clear from the need for a dress code that collectively the parents failed to do so.

No, certain parents did and I would imagine some of the clothes were bought buy the teens themselves. Now all the families are having to buy uniforms because a few kids have parents that let them wear what they want? Ridiculous, just go for the kids who don't know how to farking dress themselves.

SoothinglyDeranged: No, certain parents did and I would imagine some of the clothes were bought buy the teens themselves. Now all the families are having to buy uniforms because a few kids have parents that let them wear what they want? Ridiculous, just go for the kids who don't know how to farking dress themselves.

Schools cannot, legally, apply a dress code only to a limited number of students.

Now, as for whether the teens bought the clothes themselves, then that wasn't a cost the parents paid, was it? So, it's not a sunk cost for them. If the parents gave the kids money to buy the clothes, then they're responsible for the choices their kids made.

This sort of story pops up every now and again, and it's always the same: people complaining of the cost of about $125 (to use someone's numbers earlier in the thread) per year for reasonable clothes that any kid should have anyway.

Your kid should have clothes that are presentable somewhere where t-shirts and jeans aren't appropriate. Teaching them to wear clothes like that at school in order to emphasize learning, not fashion, is a good thing.

House of Tards: GoDawgs!: Tresser: not to have a fashion show.

are you the fresh prince's mom?

if so, that was a biatch move making him move in with his auntie and uncle in bel-air just because he got in one little fight.

Well to be fair, she was scared.

there's no need to argue. parents just don't understand.

In places where public school uniforms are required, there are frequently programs that subsidize uniforms for low income families. Local churches are also a good place to get free uniforms - just ask the church office to start a collection... it's not uncommon (and that's what churches are there for, anyway - feed the hungry, clothe the poor)

So, what's the outrage, again?

See if they want to make this effective they need to set it up at the very beginning of the year where the school takes attendance averages for state funding.

GoDawgs!: Tresser: not to have a fashion show.

are you the fresh prince's mom?

if so, that was a biatch move making him move in with his auntie and uncle in bel-air just because he got in one little fight.

You could wear your uniform jacket inside out. Jazz would approve.

CCCCCCC it's all about what the students are learning in shcool.

Doctor Funkenstein:
I approve of this. Not because I have an opinion one way or the other on dress codes, rather I'm a strong advocate of tormenting children.

No metal coat hangers!!!

/off my lawn

SpinStopper: Wait until they grow up and find out that they have to dress a certain way in order to talk to customers on the telephone ;)

Or sit in a windowless temperature and humidity controlled server room to work on things humans won't even touch.

/its easier to masturbate in here without pants

Don't mess with the bull



You'll get the horns.

/Hot like Bender's stash after being in Johnson's underwear

Unavailable for comment:



/hot like Kelly
//brass balls to the District
///although 1700 out of 43000

Baggy pants... not yours!

SpinStopper: Wait until they grow up and find out that they have to dress a certain way in order to talk to customers on the telephone ;)

But you are not legally impelled to go to work.

IdBeCrazyIf:
/its easier to masturbate in here without pants

Dude, TMI

Tresser: More than 1,700 parents and students signed an online petition to the Clayton school board, calling the uniforms "tyranny and oppression of adults."


If you were adults, you'd know that you're in school to sit down and shut the fark up. not to have a fashion show.

Adults should understand that they have a choice. Your child can wear the uniforms, or you can enroll them in school elsewhere.

As I've told my son, once you are an adult, you will spend a good deal of your time doing things that seem stupid, and taking crap from some idiot of a boss. All while wearing a smile.

You don't have to agree with it, or like it, but you you still have to do it.

mattharvest: Talon: mattharvest: Finally, how possible do you think it is that the clothes the kids are already wearing in school are less expensive than the uniforms?

See that's the difference between a sunk cost, and a new cost. The parents already own an entire set of clothing for their children... clothing that was likely (if they are poor) bought over a long period of time, handed down from family and friends of the family. I'm fairly certain they didn't go out and buy everything their child would otherwise wear all at once, which is the problem - the poorer parents will now have to go and, all at once, buy a whole new set of clothing for their children.

When living paycheck to paycheck there's a big difference between 10 dollars a month to replace pieces in an existing wardrobe, and 130+ to replace an entire wardrobe all at once.

Again, they don't need to buy all the clothes at once.

However, more broadly you're missing my point: these parents sunk the costs into very poor decisions, i.e. clothes that weren't appropriate enough for the school. While individual parents may have done so, it is clear from the need for a dress code that collectively the parents failed to do so.

The only thing made clear by a dress code is that the people in charge of the school are on a power trip.

While I agree that kids need to know when to dress properly, I am against any form of repression of freedom of expression that isn't a disruption. There is NOTHING wrong with blue jeans and a t-shirt for school.

/Anyone else remember the "Rape scene" Guns N Roses concert t-shirt?
//Because of that, my high school banned ALL concert t's.
///Yes, I did get suspended for wearing a "Master of Puppets"
t-shirt, why do ask?

CruiserTwelve: These are the same kids that can't understand why they can't get a job when they show up for job interviews with their pants sagging and speaking ebonics.

/get offa my lawn

Thank god you're not in a profession where generalizations and profiling would be illegal.

/Oh, wait.

mattharvest: This sort of story pops up every now and again, and it's always the same: people complaining of the cost of about $125 (to use someone's numbers earlier in the thread) per year for reasonable clothes that any kid should have anyway.

Every kid should have khakis and sweaters of a specific color? I kinda doubt that.

My parents bought us used clothes from secondhand shops. We wore jeans. There's no way they could have afforded to buy $125 worth of new clothes for three kids.

Granted, I guess they could buy one or two sets per child and wash them frequently, but that introduces the added inconvenience of going down to the laundromat and hoping the good washers and driers weren't taken.

Clayton Co. is the great joke of Georgia. Other jokes include the Fulton, Cobb and Dekelb school systems.

Clayton County still has schools?

Meh. Students did exactly what they should have. It got attention, and with it came consequences. Consequences that they warned about, and accepted. If I were one of those kids, I'd be proud of myself.

I'd also be planning the next casual day. Every friday.

FTFA: Last school year, Clayton ordered all elementary and middle school students to wear uniform dress, including khaki pants, skirts, polo shirts and sweaters of the same color. This year, the policy spread to the district's nine high schools.

I wonder if they would get in trouble for wearing a suit and tie?

mattharvest: Your kid should have clothes that are presentable somewhere where t-shirts and jeans aren't appropriate.

According to who and in what century?

Newsflash to the fashion police: I have exactly one suit for weddings/funerals/whatever. It's jeans and t-shirts everywhere else. The kids in the story have to go to school 5 days a week, and one outfit ain't gonna cut it.

I'm very much against local laws that prohibit certain kinds of dress and undress (like baggy pants, thongs, etc.). But I have no problem with schools requiring uniforms. I have no problem with schools requiring kids to be well groomed.

Is this the Fark thread where the school administrators are fascist assholes for forcing the students to conform to their idea of what's appropriate or the Fark thread where the coddled students have to learn that life doesn't owe them anything and they'll find that out the hard way if they don't learn to follow the rules? Or the Fark thread where some douchebag liter tries to come in and act like he's so above it all by mocking other Farkers opinions?

I get confused.

ArthGuinness: mattharvest: Your kid should have clothes that are presentable somewhere where t-shirts and jeans aren't appropriate.

According to who and in what century?

Newsflash to the fashion police: I have exactly one suit for weddings/funerals/whatever. It's jeans and t-shirts everywhere else. The kids in the story have to go to school 5 days a week, and one outfit ain't gonna cut it.

Wow...just wow. What are you twelve?

Khakies and a polo shirt? That's not a uniform, it's a dress code.

Any kid with half a brain can add personal tocuhes to that
*Belt
*Jewelry
*Shoes
*Different color shirts
*Coat or sweater

I had to wear that for athletics in high school. Not because of the dress code (which I had), but the coaching staff didn't want us to look like farkwads.

God forbid that students learn that certain situations require certain clothes. I'm in a job search right now, and any bank/insurance firm in the country would turn me down if I walked in looking like a slob. Look like a dumbass on your own time.