Being gay isn't the issue...being stupid and displaying poor taste is. This jerk is clueless.

Is it poor taste to kiss someone on stage during a performance? Are kisses on the movie screen or theater stage similarly in poor taste?

I thought the kiss was kind of cute.

WaltzingMathilda: Is it poor taste to kiss someone on stage during a performance? Are kisses on the movie screen or theater stage similarly in poor taste?

I didn't see the simulated fellatio. That might be slightly in poor taste for the intended demographic, however, I still see no problem with it being aired completely unedited. I have not been known to "think of the children" when it comes to TV however.

bearsfolks: Being gay isn't the issue

Uh huh.

bearsfolks: Being gay isn't the issue...being stupid and displaying poor taste is. This jerk is clueless.

Which part was that? Was it the act of kissing on stage, which has been done for decades without any whining? Or is the fact that it was 2 guys what makes it "being stupid . . .". Because if THAT'S the case, then despite what some homophobes may tell themselves to justify their outrage (OUTRAGE) at such a stupid issue, being gay is most certainly the issue.

/outrage
//OUTRAGE

That doesn't offend me. Manufactured celebrities offend me.

Never heard of him......

Diogenes: That doesn't offend me. Manufactured celebrities offend me.

Example of a non-manufactured celebrity, please. Thank you.

WaltzingMathilda: Is it poor taste to kiss someone on stage during a performance?

I don't think he meant the kiss was poor taste.

Imagine this... A man is just innocently sitting there watching the show and then BAM! all of a sudden they catch gay from what they're watching.

Do you have any idea how disruptive that is? Their whole world changed. Suddenly they realize they have poor taste in the beer they're drinking, the dingy undecorated room they're in, the dirty t-shirt they're wearing.

It's okay bearsfolks, there's plenty of places to get help. Start by tuning into Bravo and shortening your nick to Bear.

Diogenes: That doesn't offend me. Manufactured celebrities offend me.

And we're done here. Last one out, turn off the lights.

People were OUTRAGED at Jazz music.

People were OUTRAGED at Elvis' hips.

People were OUTRAGED at the Beatles.

YAWN

I Said: Which part was that? Was it the act of kissing on stage, which has been done for decades without any whining?

I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assumes he means the simulated fellatio. While I don't think that is in poor taste, I understand if people think simulated sex acts are over the line.

hyperdream: Do you have any idea how disruptive that is? Their whole world changed. Suddenly they realize they have poor taste in the beer they're drinking, the dingy undecorated room they're in, the dirty t-shirt they're wearing.

It's okay bearsfolks, there's plenty of places to get help. Start by tuning into Bravo and shortening your nick to Bear.

I've known very few gay people with good taste in beer.

WaltzingMathilda: I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assumes he means the simulated fellatio. While I don't think that is in poor taste, I understand if people think simulated sex acts are over the line.

I didn't see that, only the kiss clip bc it made the news. Yeah, simulated fellatio is in poor taste. But most of the hubbub yesterday was based on the two guys kissing.

Errk: Never heard of him......

New to the intertubes?

You know who he is.

I Said: WaltzingMathilda: I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assumes he means the simulated fellatio. While I don't think that is in poor taste, I understand if people think simulated sex acts are over the line.

I didn't see that, only the kiss clip bc it made the news. Yeah, simulated fellatio is in poor taste. But most of the hubbub yesterday was based on the two guys kissing.

I had to read the article to realize it happened. Apparently ABC quickly cut to an audience shot.

I, however, don't think taste matters as much as most people might. The world is real, no matter how much we want our kids to have a fabricated view of it. I saw tasteless things on TV as a kid and grew up just fine.

He wants to be outrageous, I say go for it.

Only next time pick a song that doesn't suck.

WaltzingMathilda: I, however, don't think taste matters as much as most people might. The world is real, no matter how much we want our kids to have a fabricated view of it. I saw tasteless things on TV as a kid and grew up just fine.

Of course. But the difference here is that if the kiss is the issue, given the number of onscreen kisses on network TV in prime-time, then that means the real problem people have is that it was two men (not the act of kissing itself).

If the simulated bj is the issue, then the act being aired on TV is the issue.

I don't care about either, but only one is bigotry.

jwa007: Diogenes: That doesn't offend me. Manufactured celebrities offend me.

Example of a non-manufactured celebrity, please. Thank you.

Anyone who worked their way up the ranks through smarts and refinement of their talents.

outrage you say?



hot, not "hot" but, you know. . .hotlinked.

I Said: WaltzingMathilda: I, however, don't think taste matters as much as most people might. The world is real, no matter how much we want our kids to have a fabricated view of it. I saw tasteless things on TV as a kid and grew up just fine.

Of course. But the difference here is that if the kiss is the issue, given the number of onscreen kisses on network TV in prime-time, then that means the real problem people have is that it was two men (not the act of kissing itself).

If the simulated bj is the issue, then the act being aired on TV is the issue.

I don't care about either, but only one is bigotry.

Yep, agreed.

Personally, I couldn't handle it, it was a little rough. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought he was soft and sweet.

Did anybody actually like or enjoy the performance?

'Cause I didn't, I thought it was tasteless and that it was deliberately constructed to be insipidly indulgent "edgy" but in reality was just embarassing to me, a gay man.

ubercub: Did anybody actually like or enjoy the performance?

'Cause I didn't, I thought it was tasteless and that it was deliberately constructed to be insipidly indulgent "edgy" but in reality was just embarassing to me, a gay man.

I didn't enjoy the performance because, frankly, I don't find the kid talented. But embarrassing to gay people, well, hell I don't know. I don't get embarrassed when straight people show affection, though I do point and laugh when people are all over each other at like a bar or something.

This needs to be called exactly what it is:

Publicity.

ubercub: Did anybody actually like or enjoy the performance?

'Cause I didn't, I thought it was tasteless and that it was deliberately constructed to be insipidly indulgent "edgy" but in reality was just embarassing to me, a gay man.

ubercub, meet Demetrius:

Demetrius: This needs to be called exactly what it is:

Publicity.

You know what, "nut up or shut up."

/that is all.

Demetrius: This needs to be called exactly what it is:

Publicity.

bingo. I took it more like "I am going to do the complete opposite of what people expect of the second place finisher of American Idol and go balls out"

no pun intended.

JusticeandIndependence: Errk: Never heard of him......

New to the intertubes?

You know who he is.

I do now. He's some homosexual musician.

Diogenes: jwa007: Diogenes: That doesn't offend me. Manufactured celebrities offend me.

Example of a non-manufactured celebrity, please. Thank you.

Anyone who worked their way up the ranks through smarts and refinement of their talents.


Not to split hairs, but I think you're talking about fame. Celebrity is a whole different animal. Example: Willie Nelson is famous. Anna Nicole Smith was a celebrity.

Simulated? It's gotten so bad they're lip synching fellatio?

Sybarite: Diogenes: jwa007: Diogenes: That doesn't offend me. Manufactured celebrities offend me.

Example of a non-manufactured celebrity, please. Thank you.

Anyone who worked their way up the ranks through smarts and refinement of their talents.


Not to split hairs, but I think you're talking about fame. Celebrity is a whole different animal. Example: Willie Nelson is famous. Anna Nicole Smith was a celebrity.

Fair enough. But there is overlap. I might go so far as to argue that while not everyone who is famous is a celebrity, all celebrities are famous. I have to give that more thought.

I'm clicking this just to see if he actually used the word 'hegemony.'

vernonFL: People were OUTRAGED at Jazz music.

People were OUTRAGED at Elvis' hips.

People were OUTRAGED at the Beatles.

YAWN

People were OUTRAGED at Madonna and Britney Spears.

People were OUTRAGED at Janet Jackson and the nipple shield.

So VERY much this.

I'm only entertained to the point where watching them keep on trying to top LAST year's empty shock value forces them to descend to new depths of self-parody.

Where's the dern Orderlies when you need them?

This is ok, but boobies are not?

So sad.

rotsky: Personally, I couldn't handle it, it was a little rough ruff. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought he was soft and sweet sweat.

/Sorry, pet peeve

What everyone should know is that recent reports indicated his record label was trying to play down his homosexuality. This, I believe, was his way of giving the finger to his label and cementing his sexual preference into the minds of the viewers. I applaud his smite and sincerely hope he can sell more records as a result. I've never heard his music and doubt I ever will, but I support anyone's unabashed attempts to "fight the power".

/straight face

I'm outraged that his publicist thinks Mr. Lambert's closet has a revolving door.

vernonFL: People were OUTRAGED at Jazz music.

People were OUTRAGED at Elvis' hips.

People were OUTRAGED at the Beatles.

YAWN

Please tell me that you are not comparing him to those you mentioned above. Please?

Was Prince in poor taste?

How about Jodeci?

Bobby Brown?

Jim Morrison?

TaTu?

I was shocked by that performance and found it was a little too risqué for my liking. I blame video games.

Some Texan: What everyone should know is that recent reports indicated his record label was trying to play down his homosexuality. This, I believe, was his way of giving the finger to his label and cementing his sexual preference into the minds of the viewers. I applaud his smite and sincerely hope he can sell more records as a result. I've never heard his music and doubt I ever will, but I support anyone's unabashed attempts to "fight the power".

/straight face

Within 72 hours, 19 Entertainment/The American Idol Handlers will drop the hammer down, he's going to apologize down the line, and he'll be forced back in the closet to the point in which he will outskank Jon Gossalyn in bars, fark Lindsey Lohan, and claim Octomom's kids as his biological offspring to prove he's straighter than Tom Cruise.

You can safely ignore anyone who uses the word hegemony with any seriousness. Unless they are mentioning the use of the word itself, in which case, the speaker is awesome.

I Said: bearsfolks: Being gay isn't the issue...being stupid and displaying poor taste is. This jerk is clueless.

Which part was that? Was it the act of kissing on stage, which has been done for decades without any whining? Or is the fact that it was 2 guys what makes it "being stupid . . .". Because if THAT'S the case, then despite what some homophobes may tell themselves to justify their outrage (OUTRAGE) at such a stupid issue, being gay is most certainly the issue.

/outrage
//OUTRAGE

Well said.

Uh, boys kissing their male guitarists isn't shocking or new. They've been doing it since the 70's at least. Attention whores, they wear glitter.

If he was doing this for the same reason Britney/Madonna/etc did it, then fine. Being an attention whore at award shows is par for the course. No issues here.

If he was doing it to make some kind of political statement then he's a douchebag.

Glad I missed it.

"Who is Adam Lambert?"

p the boiler: Was Prince in poor taste?

How about Jodeci?

Bobby Brown?

Jim Morrison?

TaTu?


Uhhh.. yes.