TFA: And the vast majority of those who are in regular contact with friends and relatives living in the U.S. say those friends and relatives have largely achieved their goals.

The bad news is that these goals include drinking Bud Light and doing their banking every Friday at a gas station. Call me when they aspire to car insurance and vasectomies.

In related news, nearly 6 in 10 Mexican prefer working at Google Inc to mopping jizz in a strip club

Fluff Girl: Call me when they aspire to car insurance and vasectomies.

Wow. Just. Wow.

The Onanist: Wow. Just. Wow.

I am guessing you don't live in a state that borders Mexico. People who know me know I am not racist or misanthropic, but Jesus Christ, the things I could show you.

Lou Dobbs' wife is Mexican.

Viva La Raza!!!

Fluff Girl: The Onanist: Wow. Just. Wow.

I am guessing you don't live in a state that borders Mexico. People who know me know I am not racist or misanthropic, but Jesus Christ, the things I could show you.

My sister lives in Deming NM. She has serious guns. I want her to leave and come north. I hear you.

Open Borders!!!



Eff UUU America.

Fluff Girl: The Onanist: Wow. Just. Wow.

I am guessing you don't live in a state that borders Mexico. People who know me know I am not racist or misanthropic, but Jesus Christ, the things I could show you.

Perhaps the people who know you are also not racist or misanthropic.

Republicans must be losing their minds. They're bat-shiat crazy religious and culturally inept, but they're brown and don't speak English. What a conundrum.

Courtney Cox-Zucker: Republicans must be losing their minds. They're bat-shiat crazy religious and culturally inept, but they're brown and don't speak English. What a conundrum.

The Hispanic vote could put them in power permanently. Too bad they're too racist to get it.

Green cards? We don't need no steeenking green cards.

If they put half as much effort into fixing Mexico as they do trying to get into the United States... Mexico would probably be significantly less of a hell hole.

Lou Dobbs' Fark surrogates collective headsplosion in 0... -1... -2...

ultraholland: U.S. Deports Lou Dobbs

That is BALLER

Telak: If they put half as much effort into fixing Mexico as they do trying to get into the United States... Mexico would probably be significantly less of a hell hole.

Mexico is beyond saving. What a dirty, corrupt shiathole.

/Hispanic

Good for them.

The US should let them to continue to illegally cross the border, allowing them to be exploited by various employers, contribute to the crime rate and driving down wages for the average American worker,

The US should also under no circumstances prosecute companies who knowingly hire illegal aliens, nor deport the ones already there.

Fluff Girl: TFA: And the vast majority of those who are in regular contact with friends and relatives living in the U.S. say those friends and relatives have largely achieved their goals.

The bad news is that these goals include drinking Bud Light and doing their banking every Friday at a gas station. Call me when they aspire to car insurance and vasectomies.

Harsh...

Telak
If they put half as much effort into fixing Mexico as they do trying to get into the United States... Mexico would probably be significantly less of a hell hole.

Yeah, but they at least have a fighting chance here to live a decent life. Get pulled over by a cop in any country south of the U.S. border, be prepared to encounter a mandatory bribe. Get pulled over in the U.S. and try to bribe a cop, they'll throw you in jail and give you due process.

Not to troll or anything, but honestly, at what point do you realize how hopeless the situation is and just give up? I'm not happy about illegal immigration, but I understand it.

Grey Street: Telak: If they put half as much effort into fixing Mexico as they do trying to get into the United States... Mexico would probably be significantly less of a hell hole.

Mexico is beyond saving. What a dirty, corrupt shiathole.

/Hispanic

Historically, the US turned a blind eye to immigration from Mexico because it served as a safety valve to postpone a Communist revolution in Mexico. The US feared that had Mexicans tried as hard to fix Mexico as they did to get into the US (including many deaths and detentions), there would be another Revolution.

Perhaps the cactus of liberty needs to be watered...

And yet they come here waving their Mexican flags and spewing their hatred towards anyone who is not of Mexican descent.

So we have 20 million criminal aliens and the remaining population of Mexico is 140 million and only 60 per cent want to immigrate so that means we're going to be picking up the health care, law enforcement, housing and education tab for only 84 million more Mexicans while the rich enjoy their subsidized servants and the limousine liberturds get to pat themselves on the back for being such great humanitarians while the rest of us pick up the bill. Good thing the economy is doing great so we'll barely even notice the extra tax burden of that and the health care boondoggle whammy. That heavens the president's aunt is a criminal alien so she'll be able to advise him on how to handle the situation.

I'm sure that the worsening drug war in Mexico won't change anybody's mind about leaving either.

Claude Ballse: Telak
If they put half as much effort into fixing Mexico as they do trying to get into the United States... Mexico would probably be significantly less of a hell hole.

Yeah, but they at least have a fighting chance here to live a decent life. Get pulled over by a cop in any country south of the U.S. border, be prepared to encounter a mandatory bribe. Get pulled over in the U.S. and try to bribe a cop, they'll throw you in jail and give you due process.

Not to troll or anything, but honestly, at what point do you realize how hopeless the situation is and just give up? I'm not happy about illegal immigration, but I understand it.


This. Zero tolerance for immigration is kind of like zero tolerance for underage drinking or zero tolerance for teenage sex.

Would things be better if this all didn't happen? Sure. Do we have to live with it. Fark yeah. Should we do smart things to reduce bad consequences while not explicitly encouraging the action in question? Yeah.

We've had borders for about 235 years now. So far, we haven't been overrun, and the white race marches on.

ultraholland: U.S. Deports Lou Dobbs

So, he was one of the "nearly six-in-ten"?

Yamaneko2: Grey Street: Telak: If they put half as much effort into fixing Mexico as they do trying to get into the United States... Mexico would probably be significantly less of a hell hole.

Mexico is beyond saving. What a dirty, corrupt shiathole.

/Hispanic

Historically, the US turned a blind eye to immigration from Mexico because it served as a safety valve to postpone a Communist revolution in Mexico. The US feared that had Mexicans tried as hard to fix Mexico as they did to get into the US (including many deaths and detentions), there would be another Revolution.

Perhaps the cactus of liberty needs to be watered...

Well, history has proved that there is nothing so bad that a Communist government cannot make worse.

hey it's true and the southern parts of the U.S. will keep getting crappier and crappier which will make white people go so far north that it'll become the Oregon trail all over again. don't forget your Conestoga wagon, 6 oxen and 17 boxes of bullets.

Clickscope: hey it's true and the southern parts of the U.S. will keep getting crappier and crappier which will make white people go so far north that it'll become the Oregon trail all over again. don't forget your Conestoga wagon, 6 oxen and 17 boxes of bullets.




For the record, that's paranoid psycho-talk. Just a friendly nudge, nothing hurtful intended.

Can you really blame them for crossing over the border though? Even as illegals they still live better than if they stayed in Mexico. All they want is a better life. It's the companies who hire them who ought to be given real punishments instead of a slap on the wrist.

Swampthing in Korea: The US should let them to continue to illegally cross the border, allowing them to be exploited by various employers, contribute to the crime rate and driving down wages for the average American worker,

The average American worker doesn't want to pick tomatos. When rebuilding NOLA with above minimum wage construction jobs you couldn't get Americans to take the jobs, they went to Mexicans. When I hired Mexicans to mow my lawn they made more than minimum wage.

They do jobs Americans won't.

They also drive without insurance and hit my car 3 times in 2 years.

Claude Ballse

Not to troll or anything, but honestly, at what point do you realize how hopeless the situation is and just give up? I'm not happy about illegal immigration, but I understand it.

Not at all; going after employers of illegal aliens and blocking government benefits, including indirectly mandated ones like medical care, you can drive out illegal aliens, especially when combined with deportations. Arizona's law, as deeply flawed as it is (it doesn't grant subpoena powers unfortunately), as helped drive out many illegal aliens.

Eisenhower drove out 3 million illegal aliens in a matter of months with 1000 agents - http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html (pops).

As far as the headline goes, it's fairly obvious that they like life in the US better; they wouldn't be coming if they didn't. There's no reason to expect head explosion, except for subtard's desire to bash Dobbs.

Immigration, especially illegal immigration, has been bad for the quality of life in the US. It pushes down real wages, decreases job security, overstrains hospitals, schools, roads, etc, leads to loss of wilderness to development, and introduce social divisions and contention. And the illegal kind undermines the rule of law and fuels other crime like smuggling.

The US's percentage of foreign born residents dropped to all time lows 1948-1965, even as the US saw the greatest increase in standard in its history.

/ http://www.NumbersUSA.com

lilplatinum: Swampthing in Korea: The US should let them to continue to illegally cross the border, allowing them to be exploited by various employers, contribute to the crime rate and driving down wages for the average American worker,

The average American worker doesn't want to pick tomatos. When rebuilding NOLA with above minimum wage construction jobs you couldn't get Americans to take the jobs, they went to Mexicans. When I hired Mexicans to mow my lawn they made more than minimum wage.

They do jobs Americans won't.

They also drive without insurance and hit my car 3 times in 2 years.

They do jobs Americans won't do, or can't do because of the mass availability of cheap labor?

I don't get it... what people often don't mention in these threads is that Mexico is like the 12th or 13th largest economy in terms of GDP (PPP). Apparently ahead of South Korea and Australia in the rankings.

If the numbers don't lie, then why does its populations yearn to get out of Mexico and pictures of much of Mexico look like shiat?

Hmmm.

SirEattonHogg: I don't get it... what people often don't mention in these threads is that Mexico is like the 12th or 13th largest economy in terms of GDP (PPP). Apparently ahead of South Korea and Australia in the rankings.

If the numbers don't lie, then why does its populations yearn to get out of Mexico and pictures of much of Mexico look like shiat?

Hmmm.

Racial discrimination, a closed and corrupt political elite and economic stagnation.

Clickscope: hey it's true and the southern parts of the U.S. will keep getting crappier and crappier which will make white people go so far north that it'll become the Oregon trail all over again.

Protip: Mexicans have taken Oregon. Resistance is futile..

Fluff Girl: The Onanist: Wow. Just. Wow.

I am guessing you don't live in a state that borders Mexico. People who know me know I am not racist or misanthropic, but Jesus Christ, the things I could show you.

Would you show me some "thingys" too?

/hu uh uh hu huh

Fluff Girl: I am not racist or misanthropic, but Jesus Christ

hehehehe, wow, just wow

Godsp33d: Mexicans have taken Oregon. Resistance is futile

Our (lets just check, current population is 3,559,596, that means roughly ....) 9 million chainsaws disagree !!!

SirEattonHogg: I don't get it... what people often don't mention in these threads is that Mexico is like the 12th or 13th largest economy in terms of GDP (PPP). Apparently ahead of South Korea and Australia in the rankings.

If the numbers don't lie, then why does its populations yearn to get out of Mexico and pictures of much of Mexico look like shiat?

Hmmm.

Economy size only matters when compared to population. Australia has 20% as many people. China has a bigger economy but the average person has to grow food to feed himself and family.

eddyatwork: Can you really blame them for crossing over the border though? Even as illegals they still live better than if they stayed in Mexico. All they want is a better life. It's the companies who hire them who ought to be given real punishments instead of a slap on the wrist.

/me checks his family tree and the countries of origin for my ancestors.

Nope! Can't blame them one little bit.

So we can send 40% of these beaners back? EXCELLENT! Love America or leave people.

...that is all..

Cool story abajo.

I love the people who scream racism and xenophobia when they know they're losing the pro-illegal immigration fight. Xenophobia especially implies the 'fear' of foreigners. No it's not fear. It's not that the intelligent people are afraid of them. No. The intelligent people see what is going to happens if we continue to let people enter this country unregulated and they just want it to stop. It has nothing to do with race either. There is imbalance that gets created by letting people come into the country on the fly.

also,

If you're pro-illegal immigrant, please tell everyone here why we, the citizens of America and the American government need to pander to illegal immigrants. What is it exactly that Americans did that illicits sympathies for them?

Were illegal immigrants the victims of slave labor to our ancestors? Did our ancestors kill them an take their land? Did we put them in camps? Did we target them specifically because of their race in the past that is massive enough to cause our government to give sympathies for them? What is it you cock? What is it that causes you to give them special treatment above others who genuinely deserve it due to the past actions of the United States?


Why should we care about the illegal immigrant condition?
Whatever did we do to them to illicit our help, our sympathies, our tax monies and aid over those who have been blatantly wronged by the USA?

Why should we help these individuals instead of helping their country? Why should the USA be obligated
to help these individuals who illegally entered our country as well as place their needs above the needs of others we have wronged?

I and a bunch of other logical and rational Farkers are waiting.

You cocks.

GAT_00: Courtney Cox-Zucker: Republicans must be losing their minds. They're bat-shiat crazy religious and culturally inept, but they're brown and don't speak English. What a conundrum.

The Hispanic vote could put them in power permanently. Too bad they're too racist to get it.

I was going to let a family of illegal immigrants to live in my house and pay for their food and healthcare but I didn't so I must be "RACIST".

Do people not realize that Mexico has a strong Socialist tradition? They may subscribe to the old school rules of their culture but that doesn't mean much with many parts of politics. The racism doesn't help the Republicans but it isn't like Mexicans are right wingers in general to begin with.

Fluff Girl: I am guessing you don't live in a state that borders Mexico. People who know me know I am not racist or misanthropic, but Jesus Christ, the things I could show you.

Has Huntington gotten that bad? I lived near Beach Blvd and Yorktown growing up, and my old neighborhood doesn't look that bad on Google StreetView.

GaryPDX: Open Borders!!!



Eff UUU America.

May you die soon from incurable cancer.

Fluff Girl: TFA: And the vast majority of those who are in regular contact with friends and relatives living in the U.S. say those friends and relatives have largely achieved their goals.

The bad news is that these goals include drinking Bud Light and doing their banking every Friday at a gas station. Call me when they aspire to car insurance and vasectomies.

I grew up in southern California. Most of the immigrants I knew worked harder than anyone else I knew, and did it with an inordinate amount of humility. Most would get car insurance if they weren't afraid to. As far as the vasectomies statement goes.. keep your ethnic cleansing rhetoric to yourself.

My friend's free clinic is 90% spanish speaking only. Many (but not all) of them make the choice to have children at age 17 or younger regardless of their economic situation. Many of them make the choice to not further their education even though there are scholarships available to them. The county the clinic is located has a 60% hispanic teen birth rate compared to 15% for blacks and 10% for whites. You cannot ignore those numbers.

It's the rest of the 10% that have truly fallen on hard times that she says makes her job worth it. Today she helped get a father of 2 whose wife and daughter died in a car accident get on healthy families.

As a Native American med student, I find this push to promote only hispanics in California appalling. It's not like there is a country nearby where and endless supply of more Native Americans and descendants of slaves exists where they can come over and get free aid.

Page B: As far as the vasectomies statement goes.. keep your ethnic cleansing rhetoric to yourself.

Your strawman is showing.