Um, no. The offense looks lost, the defense looks hurt, and things won't get better until Lovie and Angelo are gone.

/and Cutler looks like a shellshocked QB

Maybe they should of waited on that contract extension. Maybe...

Cause it's not going to get any better next week.



/hot

I love the name Johnny Knox. He sounds like a martial arts movie star rather than a wideout.

He stunk. He wasn't even under pressure last night.

And Khalil Bell looks like an actual NFL running back compared to Garret Wolfe.

germ78: And Khalil Bell looks like an actual NFL running back compared to Garret Wolfe.

Ya know, other than the 1 run, he didn't do anything.

I like when fans get all hooked on a unknown player who makes 1 play.

BendOverIGotYourBack: Cause it's not going to get any better next week.

That's just going to be an ugly game. I don't think Cutler will even last the whole game. I fully expect the Bears to lose by 20+ points.

The other part is even though he completed 56% of his passes, they went for 4 yards an average.

And Brady Quinn, the QB most Farkers say has no talent, has a 133 QB Rating for the day. I know it's only the Lions, but you don't put up those numbers without some skills.

MugzyBrown: germ78: And Khalil Bell looks like an actual NFL running back compared to Garret Wolfe.

Ya know, other than the 1 run, he didn't do anything.

I like when fans get all hooked on a unknown player who makes 1 play.

I hear what you're saying. But I see Garret Wolfe running into the pile for no gain more often than I see him breaking off 20 yard runs.

/and Matt Forte is in that same "what have you done for me lately" boat

Cutler was more to blame for last night's loss moreso than other weeks. It was pretty obvious that he was more concerned about avoiding interceptions than making completions.

But Cutler is just one part of this giant machine of suck that is the Chicago Bears. The defense has given up the ghost and the offensive line is as pathetic as it has been for the past few years. If it weren't for Gould, Knox, Hester and Maynard the Bears would be right down there with the Lions and Browns.

I was really pleased with the number of penalties that the Eagles got this time. It was much lower than what it usually is and that really helped them in the end. I was also very pleased that the Eagles seemed to get over their fear of the end zone.

Lando Lincoln: Cutler was more to blame for last night's loss moreso than other weeks. It was pretty obvious that he was more concerned about avoiding interceptions than making completions.

But Cutler is just one part of this giant machine of suck that is the Chicago Bears. The defense has given up the ghost and the offensive line is as pathetic as it has been for the past few years. If it weren't for Gould, Knox, Hester and Maynard the Bears would be right down there with the Lions and Browns.

And those four know it.... especially Hester. I lost count how many times Hester gave a disapproving glare at Cutler last night.

Cutler did very much seem like he didn't even want to be there. The throws were so far ahead of everyone, it was obvious he was scared shiatless of another interception.

The defense seems to have lost their heart when they lost Urlacher. The Bears defense could always be counted on to be a brick wall, and even when the offense sucked (which it often did under Grossman and others) the defense would at least give us hope that we might keep the score at least workable. Now, team after team keeps making second down conversions like it's nothing, just running all over and through our defense like it's not even there.

I'm from Michigan, so my two teams were always the Bears and the Lions, and of course the University of Michigan on the college side. This has been a very, VERY painful couple of years.

dletter: And those four know it.... especially Hester. I lost count how many times Hester gave a disapproving glare at Cutler last night.

Cutler did did seem to have a particular mental block with Hester yesterday. Like they said last night, when you are consistently overshooting Hester, who is possibly the fastest guy in Illinois right now, you have a serious problem.

Rebuilding's gonna suck without draft picks.

I'd just like to say that Jay Cutler and I are done, professionally. I've been pretty loyal to him in FF this year, but if he can't even get me 200+ against the Eagles at home, he sure as hell isn't going to do it against the Vikings twice and Ravens down the stretch.

Dammit, I knew I should have drafted Schaub instead of him. Nothing sucks worse than being 9-2 and dominating your fantasy league all year, and knowing that it's going to all fall apart down the stretch because you're either going to have to start Matt Cassel or go waiver wire diving each week.

Shadowknight: Now, team after team keeps making second third down conversions like it's nothing, just running all over and through our defense like it's not even there.

I'm now expecting the Bears to give up 3rd down and 15 or less conversions to the other team.

macadamnut: Rebuilding's gonna suck without draft picks.

True, true. Considering the production the badonkaBroncos got out of Orton, I'm thinking that second first round pick the Bears gave up was too much.

germ78: True, true. Considering the production the badonkaBroncos got out of Orton, I'm thinking that second first round pick the Bears gave up was too much.


Speaking of which, where are all the Broncos fans who actually believed their press clippings when they were 6-0.

If I was a lesser man I would look up the threads where I told them they were nuts.

What's the over/under on Cutler apologists for this thread?

Iggles had no business winning that game. Sheldon Brown needs to stop biting on the double move or he's going to get burned by a QB that can hit a guy within 5 yards of in stride.

Oh well, a win's a win.

The fact that there were some players playing last night due to injuries who did a really good job is just FURTHER PROOF that Lovie, et all can't evaluate talent worth a damn as those guys should have been playing all year long.

Lovie's head in the sand, keep doing the same old shiat over and over and over again and unwillingness to make a change is, arguably, indicative of him having some mental illness.

The lot of them should be fired TODAY and let a search for a competent, capable and PROFESSIONAL management/coaching staff start NOW.

Waiting till the season is over or (God Forbid) until his contract runs out is silly and futile at this point.

Further, as he was hired to coach, prepare and field a PROFESSIONAL caliber football team and HAS NOT done so can't he be fired for material breach of contract?

InferiousX: What's the over/under on Cutler apologists for this thread?

Take the under. I don't know what it is, but take it anyway.

/he stunk on ice last night
//fer farks sake you just can't overthrow Hester and Knox multiple times in a game and call yourself good

MugzyBrown: Speaking of which, where are all the Broncos fans who actually believed their press clippings when they were 6-0.

This happens on Fark anytime the Broncos implode. Their fans vanish for the most part. There are a few usernames who will be on here even when they do shiatty, but I'd say 90% of them dissipate into the fog on shiatty playing.

Shadowknight: Cutler did did seem to have a particular mental block with Hester yesterday. Like they said last night, when you are consistently overshooting Hester, who is possibly the fastest guy in Illinois right now, you have a serious problem.

Knox is faster (Bell had like a 10 or 15 yard headstart on him and he still ran him down from behind rather quickly to help out with blocking), and Cutler even managed to overthrow him on a sure touchdown to put them back ahead. Of course, the defense probably would have allowed more points after that, but still.

The o-line stinks, the defense is spotty, and last night Cutler stunk too.

germ78: InferiousX: What's the over/under on Cutler apologists for this thread?

Take the under. I don't know what it is, but take it anyway.

/he stunk on ice last night
//fer farks sake you just can't overthrow Hester and Knox multiple times in a game and call yourself good

There will be at least three more people after this comment that will tell you and I that it was Hester and Knox's fault. Not Cutlers.

I seriously wish that the people around me had the cognitive dissonance to make that many excuses for me when I fark up.

InferiousX: MugzyBrown: Speaking of which, where are all the Broncos fans who actually believed their press clippings when they were 6-0.

This happens on Fark anytime the Broncos implode. Their fans vanish for the most part. There are a few usernames who will be on here even when they do shiatty, but I'd say 90% of them dissipate into the fog on shiatty playing.


As a life-long Broncos fan, I'm getting a kick out of these replies. How's that trade thing working out for you?

Go Orton!

InferiousX: MugzyBrown: Speaking of which, where are all the Broncos fans who actually believed their press clippings when they were 6-0.

This happens on Fark anytime the Broncos implode. Their fans vanish for the most part. There are a few usernames who will be on here even when they do shiatty, but I'd say 90% of them dissipate into the fog on shiatty playing.

Too true. It's kind of nice too.

InferiousX: germ78: InferiousX: What's the over/under on Cutler apologists for this thread?

Take the under. I don't know what it is, but take it anyway.

/he stunk on ice last night
//fer farks sake you just can't overthrow Hester and Knox multiple times in a game and call yourself good

There will be at least three more people after this comment that will tell you and I that it was Hester and Knox's fault. Not Cutlers.

I seriously wish that the people around me had the cognitive dissonance to make that many excuses for me when I fark up.

Can we say that we told them so yet?

InferiousX: There will be at least three more people after this comment that will tell you and I that it was Hester and Knox's fault.

It was Cutler's fault. His wide receivers were wide open. At least last year when Orton under threw Hester on those deep routes, we would sometimes wind up getting a pass interference call. But not when it's overthrown by 10 yards. Cutler was 24-43 last night. That's not horrible, but he wasn't even as good as those numbers suggest.

dletter: Lando Lincoln: Cutler was more to blame for last night's loss moreso than other weeks. It was pretty obvious that he was more concerned about avoiding interceptions than making completions.

But Cutler is just one part of this giant machine of suck that is the Chicago Bears. The defense has given up the ghost and the offensive line is as pathetic as it has been for the past few years. If it weren't for Gould, Knox, Hester and Maynard the Bears would be right down there with the Lions and Browns.

And those four know it.... especially Hester. I lost count how many times Hester gave a disapproving glare at Cutler last night.

Briggs pretty much singlehandedly kept the game under control on the defensive side. He must have made 3 TD saving tackles, for all the good it ended up doing.

I agree with laying this one solidly on Cutler. This is the 3rd game he's lost by himself this year. After last night, I don't want to hear anyone else saying that the problem is the receivers in Chicago. Hester was burning the Eagles secondary all day, and the throws were behind him, at his feet, and although god only knows how, too deep.

Jubeebee: Hester was burning the Eagles secondary all day, and the throws were behind him, at his feet, and although god only knows how, too deep.

Approves

I still have no idea why Hester isn't returning anymore. He basically provided most of the scoring the past few years.

i do blame Hester
his pants were half-way off before the game was even over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol9hAYBCuGc
(NSFW - if DH's bare @$$ offends thy co-workers)

MugzyBrown: germ78: And Khalil Bell looks like an actual NFL running back compared to Garret Wolfe.

Ya know, other than the 1 run, he didn't do anything.

I like when fans get all hooked on a unknown player who makes 1 play.

As a Bears fan, my first thought when I saw that run was that it was nothing amazing. I knew immediately that people would be all over his jock, but the truth is that a better running back scores a touchdown on that play. Don't get me wrong, it was a nice run, but you could have driven a semi through that hole.

I knew the Bears got hosed in the trade. Seriously. The Bears homers told me I was on crack, but I got the last laugh it seems.

Someone should have informed the Bears that Culter and Shanahan, if not the Bronocs, are cursed. The Jake Plummer does not abide.

this is more of a falling apart year than a rebuilding year.

It seems as the season goes on, Cutler and the receivers are more and more *not* on the same page. The confused glances after an incompletion seem to be more and more frequent. The O-Line is getting more and more penalized. The defense is less and less able to hold the other team. I see this team just waiting for one key guy to get hurt so the team can blame the season on injuries and 'when we're healthy next year, we'll be among the elite teams'. The problems this year were not because of injuries. Every team has key guys go down every year. Indy losing Bob Sanders is not any less of a loss than Chicago losing Urlacher. The reason for their 4-6 record is, from offense to defense to coaching they are just not a good enough team.

Cutler missed the throws he needed to make to win the game. Hester open for the touchdown on the right side.

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: Someone should have informed the Bears that Culter and Shanahan, if not the Bronocs, are cursed. The Jake Plummer does not abide.

The Curse of Jake the Snake?

Any word on what the hell McNabb was whispering to Cutler after the game?

machoprogrammer: I knew the Bears got hosed in the trade. Seriously. The Bears homers told me I was on crack, but I got the last laugh it seems.

Yeah, of course, my first thought was "who the hell is he going to throw to?", which admittedly was wrong in retrospect, but the end result is the same.

KiwDaWabbit: machoprogrammer: I knew the Bears got hosed in the trade. Seriously. The Bears homers told me I was on crack, but I got the last laugh it seems.

Yeah, of course, my first thought was "who the hell is he going to throw to?", which admittedly was wrong in retrospect, but the end result is the same.

Only because your answer wasn't "opposing teams' defensive backs."

Well, I called him an interception machine before the season started, but that was more of me being a fatalist than being prophetic.

This team is way too fragile to survive Cutler having a bad game. Good teams, not the Bears, can have other aspects step up to win the game for the team. We just need Cutler to have an o.k. day and we would win more. His sucking drags this team down.

InferiousX: Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: Someone should have informed the Bears that Culter and Shanahan, if not the Bronocs, are cursed. The Jake Plummer does not abide.

The Curse of Jake the Snake?

Indeed. For supreme arrogance in the face of repeated post season appearances... they are dooooooommmmmmeeeeeddddd. Lulz.

KiwDaWabbit: Yeah, of course, my first thought was "who the hell is he going to throw to?", which admittedly was wrong in retrospect, but the end result is the same

And what the hell is a running team going to do with someone that can throw the ball? I think it has more to do with how the team is set up at this point, because they don't seem to know what to do with a decent QB.

InferiousX: Jubeebee: Hester was burning the Eagles secondary all day, and the throws were behind him, at his feet, and although god only knows how, too deep.

Approves

I noted the similarities in the thread last night. It bothers me when people who don't watch/understand the games assign blame wrongly. Blaming Hester instead of Cutler, Forte instead of the O line, the secondary instead of the front four, etc.

It REALLY bothers me when Jerry Angelo is one of those people.

KiwDaWabbit: MugzyBrown: germ78: And Khalil Bell looks like an actual NFL running back compared to Garret Wolfe.

Ya know, other than the 1 run, he didn't do anything.

I like when fans get all hooked on a unknown player who makes 1 play.

As a Bears fan, my first thought when I saw that run was that it was nothing amazing. I knew immediately that people would be all over his jock, but the truth is that a better running back scores a touchdown on that play. Don't get me wrong, it was a nice run, but you could have driven a semi through that hole.

Still, I'm not trying to replace Matt Forte yet. But compared to Garret Wolfe, I'd rather see more of what Bell can do.

discount sushi: KiwDaWabbit: Yeah, of course, my first thought was "who the hell is he going to throw to?", which admittedly was wrong in retrospect, but the end result is the same

And what the hell is a running team going to do with someone that can throw the ball? I think it has more to do with how the team is set up at this point, because they don't seem to know what to do with a decent QB.

Granted, they can't run the ball either.

downtownkid: And Brady Quinn, the QB most Farkers say has no talent, has a 133 QB Rating for the day. I know it's only the Lions, but you don't put up those numbers without some skills.

Oh please. Did you already forget his performance last week against Baltimore with a 23.5 rating? Or the week before against the Bears? 42.4? He finally has one good game against the 2nd worst defense in the league (2nd to the Browns of course) and all of a sudden you want to anoint him and say everyone was wrong about him.

I've got a better stat for Brady Quinn.

Career passer rating: 68.5

Sorry try again.

BlaineIsAPain: I've got a better stat for Brady Quinn.

Career passer rating: 68.5

Sorry try again.


You can't judge a QB based on 8 career starts. Manning was 71.2 through his first 16 games.

Not saying I think Quinn is going to be Manning or even good, just keepin it real, yo.