I see what you did there, subby! I like that turn of the phrase very much. Good job!

Beautiful

I am not a huge advocate of rights for prisoners, but a hot meal is not out of the question.

ajinbc: I am not a huge advocate of rights for prisoners, but a hot meal is not out of the question.

This.

Not to mention that this is a county jail, not a prison, which means at least some inmates are awaiting trial.

headline is win.

That's funny, submitter.

The story sucks...

But Subby +2

She was imprisoned in turkey.

/until she realized she was in a Turkish prison

County jail inmates denied hot meals for past 5 weeks because of broken kettles for boiling and heating. As God is my witness, I thought turnkeys could fry inmates should grill each other until the their tasty thighs were exposed...

FTFY...

*sigh* You mean we have to give them cooked food now?

Does subby have a flag?

I thought turkeys could fry.

/you just had to be careful.

Justice smells like hot dogs.

"the jail spends about 82 cents per meal"

Sounds appropriate to me. I'm pretty sure most other places are spending a lot more of my tax dollars feeding these incarcerated farks than these guys.

two hot meals a day - as required by Georgia law.

Let the lawsuirs begin

Nice, subby!

"FREE HAT!!! FREE HAT!!! FREE HAT!!!"

The 1,900 Clayton County inmates have been eating mostly bagged lunches, including bologna sandwiches and fruit. Aramark, the vendor who handles food and laundry services for the jail, has tried to make some hot meals at an off-site location and bring them to the jail, Kimbrough said. But there is no way to reheat the food.

Hot meals aren't a human right (and that's a dumb law), but being exposed to Aramark's food and services is cruel and unusual punishment!

They should just use Ol' Sparky to heat up some "meat."

Subey should get some warmed-up prison meat just for that terrible headline.

_{Yeah, I said it.}

The jail is in violation of Georgia law though.

\the article told me so
\\watching for future lawsuits for poor conditions from those found innocent

Fling: Let the lawsuirs begin

That's the big problem here. Inmates don't have anything to do all day and have been known to file lawsuits for pretty much everything. This is going to cost them a lot more than it would have cost them to get an emergency RFQ out to replace them.

I always preferred the sack lunch to the "hot" swill they served for breakfast and dinner.

ajinbc: I am not a huge advocate of rights for prisoners, but a hot meal is not out of the question.

Furthermore, how do you BREAK a kettle?

It's a large pot. If it doesn't leak, it's not broken. It's pretty hard to make one leak. A stray bullet, sure, but aside from that, it's pretty hard to break one. It's not like they wear out from too much cooking. I mean, how much abuse can you put on it? A modern stainless kettle could be buried for 100 years, dug up, hosed off, and used again.

Oznog: ajinbc: I am not a huge advocate of rights for prisoners, but a hot meal is not out of the question.

Furthermore, how do you BREAK a kettle?

It's a large pot. If it doesn't leak, it's not broken. It's pretty hard to make one leak. A stray bullet, sure, but aside from that, it's pretty hard to break one. It's not like they wear out from too much cooking. I mean, how much abuse can you put on it? A modern stainless kettle could be buried for 100 years, dug up, hosed off, and used again.

you do know that heating metal and cooling it repeatedly will eventually cause cracks and such right? burying it is not the same.

I work at a county jail here in Illinois. Illinois law is only one hot meal is required a day. We have our hospital thats just down the street prepare our meals, today we only had 6 inmates. We pay 4.50, FOUR FIFTY, per meal. The meals aren't even CLOSE to being worth 4.50.

/Hot like 1979 Loni Anderson

Oznog: ajinbc: I am not a huge advocate of rights for prisoners, but a hot meal is not out of the question.

Furthermore, how do you BREAK a kettle?

It's a large pot. If it doesn't leak, it's not broken. It's pretty hard to make one leak. A stray bullet, sure, but aside from that, it's pretty hard to break one. It's not like they wear out from too much cooking. I mean, how much abuse can you put on it? A modern stainless kettle could be buried for 100 years, dug up, hosed off, and used again.

GreasyPornStar: you do know that heating metal and cooling it repeatedly will eventually cause cracks and such right? burying it is not the same.
No, I don't know.
Not in any stainless or cast iron or Teflon-coated I've seen. You can heat-cycle them indefinitely. And stainless you can overheat and it'll turn kinda bluish at worst. You can overheat it and immediately spray it with cold water.

Sometimes the handles get loose. That's the "weak point" I guess.

Call the ACLU!

/I keed

As a former guard in a Georgia county jail, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/Most of the people in there are innocent
//For real innocent
///I quit because of how awful it was there

They're probably pressure cookers, not "kettles" and the big industrial cookers used in prisons, like those in hospitals and hotels, are usually tied into the hot water system. I'd guess without doing any actual research that the problem is in the plumbing someplace.

That said, are the ovens also out of commission? They don't have microwaves? Or is Georgia still mandating only boiled ham hocks and blackeyed peas for them thar prisoners down to the jail?

I think there are a lot of non-violent crimes that should be given fines or citations instead of incarceration. Example... all nonviolent drug crimes.

No three hots and a cot?

The crime rate will crash in Clayton Co.

ha ha ha ha, ya'll kill me.

Ya know sometimes innocent people do get sent to jail and hot food isn't a requirement to live but it's bad enough to be put in jail for something minor and have to wait out 3-5 weeks and it's even worse to wait it out while freezing and eating cold food all day.

The jail I was in would not allow you to cover up during the daytime and they would cut off the heat all day long just to watch you shiver and anytime anyone did cover up so much as their feet with a sheet they'ld get sent to the hole with not so much as t.p..

I think some of ya'll are stuck up pricks who've been lucky so far. Lucky to have avoided the cops while breaking the law? Not necessarily, you may never break the law. Just lucky the cops haven't crossed your path while they've been in a bad mood one night.

For some of you it will happen. The odds will play out and while I won't be there to laugh at you while you shiver in a corner crying, I'm sure someone will be there laughing.

It really doesn't take much to get sent to jail. I went once for going 25mph over the speed limit. I got lucky, since I never did get my one phone call, my brother was with me and my bond was posted immediately but still got to spend all night and most of the next day in a drunk cell( they keep it freezing in there) and most of the next day because they "lost" my paperwork. I didn't resist arrest and I didn't mouth off. I threatened to get a lawyer and a subpoena for the tapes showing I cooperated entirely but was still treated like sh*t and they just laughed and said good luck because even a lawyer can't get those tapes. They were probably lying but didn't waste time trying because the tapes would've just gotten lost just like my paperwork.

\it's just a jail
\\hope some of you get a tour one day

Oznog: ajinbc: I am not a huge advocate of rights for prisoners, but a hot meal is not out of the question.

Furthermore, how do you BREAK a kettle?

It's a large pot. If it doesn't leak, it's not broken. It's pretty hard to make one leak. A stray bullet, sure, but aside from that, it's pretty hard to break one. It's not like they wear out from too much cooking. I mean, how much abuse can you put on it? A modern stainless kettle could be buried for 100 years, dug up, hosed off, and used again.

They're called "steam kettles". They often hold 100 gallons or more, and the walls of the kettle actually heat up using either steam, or electricity, because it would take an awful long time to heat 100 gallons with just some type of stove burner.

They also have all kinds of valves and steam lines feeding into them, but still have to be able to tilt.

They're not the kettle you see on the fire in a Disney movie, they're more like what you see on The Discovery channel, when you see someone stirring soup with a canoe paddle.



This is a smaller one (~$15k), and yes, they do wear out, especially when they're being used by morons.

Dairy King: I work at a county jail here in Illinois. Illinois law is only one hot meal is required a day. We have our hospital thats just down the street prepare our meals, today we only had 6 inmates. We pay 4.50, FOUR FIFTY, per meal. The meals aren't even CLOSE to being worth 4.50.

Damn dude, for that price just request the extra 50c and get every inmate a 5 dollar footlong. If you need to save money go to taco hell or the King and get a full combo cheaper than that

Sublime_Influence I think there are a lot of non-violent crimes that should be given fines or citations instead of incarceration. Example... all nonviolent drug crimes.

They really need to do something about child support too.

I paid a year and a half one year but near the end of the year work was slow and after missing a month and a half while waiting to get paid from one job and find another(it was a new house, wasn't getting paid till the entire house was done, my company was done with the roof but still had to wait for the inside people to finish up). I got sent to jail for 3 1/2 weeks without bond for failure to make regular payments when I was already a 1/2 year ahead. Was allowed to go home when I finally saw the judge.

Funny thing about that trip to jail was they didn't call my name that morning for court and I told them I was supposed to go that day ( it was the very last day for court before the Christmas break) and they said my name wasn't on the paper. I finally got lucky after trying to get 5-6 other guards to check on it for me, one guard said "Don't worry, if you miss court you won't get in any trouble we'll just tell them you were here" and he laughed. Stupid pig knew if I missed I would have to sit there through Christmas and didn't care.

Recently went back to jail for a dui while sitting in a friends drive, couldn't smoke in the house. Cops came by( neighbors called because of another friend playing guitar in the garage), saw beer(usually don't drink but picked it up since I couldn't toke as easy while on probation), saw me, dui. Keys weren't even in the ignition. I didn't know they could get you for dui even if the keys were just in your pocket. Thanks to some recidivism law and being on probation after getting out the next day they came and picked me back up within 24 hours and I got to spend 4 weeks in jail without bond while waiting to see a judge.

Yeah, shouldn't have been drinking while on probation but the dui was bullsh*t and getting sent back to jail after posting bond was an even bigger pile of bullsh*t. Now no d.l., missed mid-terms while in jail and having to try my best to pick and choose what tests I'm going to miss now, kinda hard getting a ride to school.

Learned my lesson? Yeah, going to fail this semester most likely, get academic probation, more money from the government for loans, spend the next semester living on campus since no d.l., get my grades back to pre-jail levels and hopefully get transferred to a state with medical marijuana laws ( I have epilepsy, finally an upside to it) and finish up college there while laughing at the all around absurdity of how much in taxes was paid to keep me in jail and pay for an extra semester of college for me while in the end I'll get paid to go to college( going medical so most/all my loans will be forgiven) and be allowed to toke while on probation (unless there's some other stupid law out there which says you're allowed medical marijuana but not while on probation because criminals aren't allowed to be that sick, that chance has me cringing a bit).

\Gov't's paying out close to $10,000 roughly for me having a beer.
\\Me? At the most paying $500 in jail fines and having to make up a semester of college but it's cool because I've gotten the encouragement I needed to go to a state where I can get my favorite medicine once again.
\\\jail sux
\\\\long rant I know, 1/2 asleep, been studying all weekend for tests that I'll most likely not even get a ride to, brains a bit burnt right now and not in the good way.

Would like to see something happen but it won't.

\dang, above posts were longer than I thought.
\\tendency for that after typing school papers all weekend I guess.
\\\jails still suck.

Oznog: ajinbc: I am not a huge advocate of rights for prisoners, but a hot meal is not out of the question.

Furthermore, how do you BREAK a kettle?

It's a large pot. If it doesn't leak, it's not broken. It's pretty hard to make one leak. A stray bullet, sure, but aside from that, it's pretty hard to break one. It's not like they wear out from too much cooking. I mean, how much abuse can you put on it? A modern stainless kettle could be buried for 100 years, dug up, hosed off, and used again.

An industrial "kettle" isn't the cast-iron domestic stove-top one you're thinking of, but a complicated, bolted-to-the-floor affair with thick, jacketed walls and its own steam-heating system. It's what restaurants use to keep sixty gallons of soup piping hot. I imagine that the water-delivery system or the steam-delivery system was installed when the building was erected, the manufacturer has gone out of business or they no longer make the part that broke, and that's why the "broken kettle" can't just be replaced with a quick trip to Wal-Mart.

Oh, and by the way, Oznog, you're thinking of a cauldron,like a witch's cauldron or something like Cinderella might tend (nods to Tommyymmot)which is actually closer to the idea of an industrial kettle than a domestic kettle, said term referring to a lidded item used to heat water on a stovetop.

/pedant mode off.

I spent over two years in federal prison for trafficking marijuana over the Canadian border into Vermont. I got caught with a hair over 50lbs of grass, 18,000$, and an accomplice with a GPS device and a microphone, recording every location and corresponding timestamp. So, they had me with my guys in Canada, with our location and the entire conversation. He was doing the run with me for years and got hit with a bunch of beans (beans/grapes/oscars = oxy 80s in Vermont), and never told anyone. He got caught with FOUR beans, which at worst would have resulted in a 12 month probation sentence. He dimed me out, and I took the two year fed sentence. I got stabbed twice in jail, to avoid getting raped, I stuffed a grinded-down toothbrush into this guys ribcage because I didn't want to get raped... I am not a violent person, but no matter what, I'd rather get killed than raped.

I got lucky. I got a job as the baker in the prison, so I had access to the yeast. Being a skinny white jew in federal prison is the worst position possible. But I was one of only four inmates out of about 800 that could put their hands on the yeast.

Yeast+Sugar+Fruit=Pruno.

Fruit usually is apples from the chow hall.

Let that shiat sit in a bag for a few days, use warm water, buy the sugar from the guards, poke some holes in it. Or since I worked in the kitchen, use an empty canola oil bottle, and poke five holes in the lid like a 5 on a 6-sided die-

x x
x
x x

Pour it through your 2nd shirt, any prison, including supermax, will give you a change of clothes.

Rinse your shirt out in the johnny (toilet) afterwards. Use your Bob Barker as you pour it. If you've been an inmate you know what I mean.

THIS IS ALL TL;DR

The point being:

I bet the kettles in the kitchen died. Federal rules like the one hour of recreation time even with solitary, 23-hour lockdown inmates is constantly forgotten. I am living proof.

If those kettles are broken, they are getting cold meat sandwiches, and the guards are probably enforcing longer count (lock down) times than usual, and giving out ice creams while counting.

/Been there, done that
//Go ahead, RTFA, it's all bullshiat
///Adabesi is a real person

ITT: Rationalization

TFA
A kettle is a large pot for boiling and reheating food, Kimbrough said.

I'm glad they told me that. I wouldn't have known

Gyrfalcon: They're probably pressure cookers, not "kettles" and the big industrial cookers used in prisons, like those in hospitals and hotels, are usually tied into the hot water system. I'd guess without doing any actual research that the problem is in the plumbing someplace.

That said, are the ovens also out of commission? They don't have microwaves? Or is Georgia still mandating only boiled ham hocks and blackeyed peas for them thar prisoners down to the jail?
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Seriously, they don't have ovens, stoves, or steamers?
Microwaves though, aren't practical when you're making 1900 meals, 3 times a day.

Oznog: ajinbc: I am not a huge advocate of rights for prisoners, but a hot meal is not out of the question.

Furthermore, how do you BREAK a kettle?

It's a large pot. If it doesn't leak, it's not broken. It's pretty hard to make one leak. A stray bullet, sure, but aside from that, it's pretty hard to break one. It's not like they wear out from too much cooking. I mean, how much abuse can you put on it? A modern stainless kettle could be buried for 100 years, dug up, hosed off, and used again.

They are most likely referring to steam kettles.

Sublime_Influence: I think there are a lot of non-violent crimes that should be given fines or citations instead of incarceration. Example... all nonviolent drug crimes.

Like the guy here caught with 6000 LSD tabs and got 14 years. Or the firefighter who shot at a guy on the bike and hit his helmet (1" from the cyclist's head) and got 120 days.

Having been a guest of the state of Georgia a few times (DUI,DWLS etc.) lemme tell you it sucks the last time i was there i was in the tank with a 60 year old crippled homeless man who was serving 90 days for public drunk for trying to get into a shelter with alcohol on his breath yes in the the peach state if you SMELL like alcohol you are public drunk.oh, and the guy in the next tank (where they also keep suicide risks and those who are a risk to other inmates)he was a 30 year old black man who had been in this box like cell for 2 years awaiting trial for killing his roomie at the local state mental hospital cause the guy(dead) said he didnt like black people.hes since been found innocent or self defense but hes still in there cause no crazy hospitals will take him b/c hes violent.gotta love the system.

/no coffee yet
//ADHD

I like a sizzling steak right off the barbecue as much as the next carnivore, but for about a million years prior to the discovery of fire, a "hot meal" consisted of killing something with a face and eating it raw while it was still warm. Cooking is a relatively recent invention and even as we speak, numerous basement-dwelling Farkers are subsisting on room-temperature Twinkies and Doritos without any problems.

Been in jail a half-dozen times myself. The temperature of the food-like substances they throw at you 2-3 times a day is pretty much irrelevant. What's important is whether you can trade it for smokes and drugs.