Hai guyz! Empty thread is empty.

Good luck enforcing this.

LOL @ people with less than perfect genes.

Why don't people with genetic problems start their own insurance company?

This is a an outrage. These liberal congressmen are trying to destroy well-meaning corporations by forcing them to hire members of the lower races. Why can't we just allow the market economy to deal with issues relating to health insurance? If you're too sickly to insure, you die. I thought all you Farkers liked Darwin anyway, so this would only prevent "Idiocracy" as far as most of you are concerned.

/GObama indeed.

Somebody actually watched Gattaca?

FWIW many states have had this law on the book for 10+ years.

Good timing as we're starting to learn a lot about genetics and illness. Next decade or two would be pretty ugly as we discover how many illnesses can be predicted to an extent.

FTA:

" Stuart Ishimaru, acting chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, said in a statement that the law reaffirms the idea that people have a right to be judged solely on merit* ."


*not so fast white males.

i think some people don't understand the concept of insurance.

Noam Chimpsky: Why don't people with genetic problems start their own insurance company?

Why doesn't California enact Universal Healthcare so we can see how well it works before the rest of us are forced to put the cement shoes on and get on the raft.

Noam Chimpsky: Why don't people with genetic problems start their own insurance company?

Wouldn't that kind of be like sick people starting their own health insurance company? Insurance doesn't really work that way.

thegreatmurgatroid: i think some people don't understand the concept of insurance.

When insurance companies don't want to understand genetics, it's a minor point.

Oznog: Somebody actually watched Gattaca?

GATTACA! GATTACA! ALL OR NOTHING!!

JQPublic: Noam Chimpsky: Why don't people with genetic problems start their own insurance company?

Why doesn't California enact Universal Healthcare so we can see how well it works before the rest of us are forced to put the cement shoes on and get on the raft.

A) Insurance is a gamble where the provider is the house, and those with genetic issues are prone to more diseases--its not profitable

B) When did California last do something properly? And should we really be looking to them as exemplars for the rest of the country?

palelizard: Oznog: Somebody actually watched Gattaca?

GATTACA! GATTACA! ALL OR NOTHING!!

JQPublic: Noam Chimpsky: Why don't people with genetic problems start their own insurance company?

Why doesn't California enact Universal Healthcare so we can see how well it works before the rest of us are forced to put the cement shoes on and get on the raft.

A) Insurance is a gamble where the provider is the house, and those with genetic issues are prone to more diseases--its not profitable

B) When did California last do something properly? And should we really be looking to them as exemplars for the rest of the country?

Good! Insurance isn't SUPPOSED to be 100% profitable for everyone you insure! That's not how it's supposed to work!

Gattaca! Gattaca! Gattaca!

WhyteRaven74: thegreatmurgatroid: i think some people don't understand the concept of insurance.

When insurance companies don't want to understand genetics, it's a minor point.

I think they want to understand. Especially if they can point to your genetic sequence and say "pre-existing condition, we ain't paying".

Noam Chimpsky: Why don't people with genetic problems start their own insurance company?

Why don't people living in hurricane prone areas or flood plains start their own home insurance companies? Why don't young males with sports cars in an urban area start their own auto insurance companies?

SeamusFerrell: Why don't people living in hurricane prone areas or flood plains start their own home insurance companies? Why don't young males with sports cars in an urban area start their own auto insurance companies?

Ignorance and stupidity?

I refer to my friends with allergies as genetically inferior. They do not appreciate the humor. They haven't caught on to my family's predilictions towards cancer, alcoholism and heart disease. But that's because they're weak.

JQPublic: FTA:

" Stuart Ishimaru, acting chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, said in a statement that the law reaffirms the idea that people have a right to be judged solely on merit* ."


*not so fast white males.

Came here for this, and was not disappointed. Well played, sir.

HMS_Blinkin: This is a an outrage. These liberal congressmen are trying to destroy well-meaning corporations by forcing them to hire members of the lower races. Why can't we just allow the market economy to deal with issues relating to health insurance? If you're too sickly to insure, you die. I thought all you Farkers liked Darwin anyway, so this would only prevent "Idiocracy" as far as most of you are concerned.

/GObama indeed.

Noam Chimpsky: Why don't people with genetic problems start their own insurance company?

JQPublic:Why doesn't California enact Universal Healthcare so we can see how well it works before the rest of us are forced to put the cement shoes on and get on the raft.



Already personally bankrupted the system.

JQPublic: FTA:

" Stuart Ishimaru, acting chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, said in a statement that the law reaffirms the idea that people have a right to be judged solely on merit* ."


*not so fast white males.

Aw fark.

/shakes fist

Whatever happened to survival of the fittest?

Greta_VanHouten: Whatever happened to survival of the fittest?

It was an inadequate phrase to explain what actually occurred during the evolutionary process?

Oznog: Noam Chimpsky: Why don't people with genetic problems start their own insurance company?

JQPublic:Why doesn't California enact Universal Healthcare so we can see how well it works before the rest of us are forced to put the cement shoes on and get on the raft.



Already personally bankrupted the system.

Janeane Garofalo has really let herself go to shiat.

/snicker

palelizard: SeamusFerrell: Why don't people living in hurricane prone areas or flood plains start their own home insurance companies? Why don't young males with sports cars in an urban area start their own auto insurance companies?

Ignorance and stupidity?

I refer to my friends with allergies as genetically inferior. They do not appreciate the humor. They haven't caught on to my family's predilictions towards cancer, alcoholism and heart disease. But that's because they're weak.

I'm not sure what you meant by, "Ignorance and stupidity?" but I was going for, "There is little to no profit in insuring high risk things unless the premiums are sky high."

Also, I used to tease my friends about their genetic inferiority but had to stop when one of my best friends had two autistic children. It ceased to be funny then. And it is real autism, not this crap people are calling autism now.

SeamusFerrell: I'm not sure what you meant by, "Ignorance and stupidity?" but I was going for, "There is little to no profit in insuring high risk things unless the premiums are sky high."

Also, I used to tease my friends about their genetic inferiority but had to stop when one of my best friends had two autistic children. It ceased to be funny then. And it is real autism, not this crap people are calling autism now.

I was actually just making fun of people who live in disaster prone areas and young males with sports cars.

"If a patient is at risk for a particular condition, they are a good candidate to do more preventive screenings, and this would prohibit some of that information even being gathered," Zirkelbach said.


How conveeeeeeeeeeeenient.

When I showed up at the ER with my own rag on stick is when things got weird.

kenposan: Gattaca! Gattaca! Gattaca!

Zombie Billy Mays does not approve.

kenposan: Gattaca! Gattaca! Gattaca!

Excellent news. It will be interesting to see how the less scrupulous insurance companies try to weasel out of it.

As for those of you suggesting that this is counter to the principles of insurance, it really isn't. The trick is to have sufficiently large customer base to spread the load, and dilute the risk. You can make a lot of money with this approach, and still remain thoroughly ethical.

Why would anyone want to start a business in america if they can't exploit the workers?

Tillmaster: It will be interesting to see how the less scrupulous insurance companies try to weasel out of it.

$500 says that they use this as an excuse to raise premiums.

/not like they need one, but still

actually genetics risk factors would be a good way to help set peoples rates as long as the govt reguated it to where the insurers didn't rape you with it.

geneically predisposed to cancer + smokes = much bigger price gap for smoker vs non smoker than for people that aren't predisposed to cancer.

genetically predisposed to diabeetus + obese= much bigger price gap than for obesevs non obese than non prediposed to diabeetus.

I have a congenital birth defect so I'm gettign a real kick out of these replies.

No seriously aural atrasia (new window)

Deaf as hell in my left ear, it's why the marines wouldn't take me despite quite respectable ASVAB scores.

Oldiron_79: actually genetics risk factors would be a good way to help set peoples rates as long as the govt reguated it to where the insurers didn't rape you with it.

geneically predisposed to cancer + smokes = much bigger price gap for smoker vs non smoker than for people that aren't predisposed to cancer.

genetically predisposed to diabeetus + obese= much bigger price gap than for obesevs non obese than non prediposed to diabeetus.

What about genetically proposed to cancer, but never exposed to carcinogens and get cancer anyway?

The issue is that people who have random bad genes, like the BRAC gene that causes you to have insanely high rates of breast, ovarian, or prostate cancer, would have to pay a LOT more despite not actually doing anything wrong. And with the BRAC genes you can live the healthiest lifestyle imaginable and still get cancer-- it's not triggered by anything.

What's worse, they could charge people higher rates because they were a CARRIER for something bad and their KID might get it and cost them money. And the biggest problem right now, of course, is if you have these genes they usually either give you a ridiculous premium that's so expensive you might as well pay out of pocket, or deny you coverage outright. This will prevent all this.

There's no reason to discriminate against someone because of their genes. The average insurance policy doesn't lose that much on these people, anyway, it's not like they'll operate at a loss if they have to provide coverage.

HMS_Blinkin: This is a an outrage. These liberal congressmen are trying to destroy well-meaning corporations by forcing them to hire members of the lower races. Why can't we just allow the market economy to deal with issues relating to health insurance? If you're too sickly to insure, you die. I thought all you Farkers liked Darwin anyway, so this would only prevent "Idiocracy" as far as most of you are concerned.

/GObama indeed.

And think of those poor, poor, defenseless little SHAREHOLDERS.

We can't let anything upset those sensitive little souls, because they'll go out and dump their shares in a tantrum because they'll only make 20% dividend instead of 21%.

I wonder what happens when you reward the unhealthy and non-productive and penalize the healthy and productive? According to behavioral psychology you end up with more unhealthy a non-productive.

How about not discriminating people at all? Or is that too socialistic?

That's okay, they'll just wait until you come down with something. Drop the amount it takes to max out and let you try to get insurance with a "pre-existing condition".

No, YOU'RE genetic!

I say go for it. Eventually it will be cheaper to cure the genetic conditions than to treat them.

Moment they try to discriminate against my genetics is the moment I shoot up with those plasmids everyone's been talkin' about. That'll be a real kick! Then I'll really show 'em who's boss around this berg!

congress is inbred bunch of bastards.
flap your arms as fast as you want dolts, were going down.

It's about damn time we stop banning discrimination a little bit at a time and ban all discrimination now. Companies should not be able to discriminate based on potential employees abilities, experience, education, past performance, or anything else.

scott88008: I wonder what happens when you reward the unhealthy and non-productive and penalize the healthy and productive? According to behavioral psychology you end up with more unhealthy a non-productive.

THIS.

What? No, "you know who else discriminated against people based on genetics?" I'm ashamed of all of you.

In the wild, there is no health care. In the wild, health care is, 'Ow, I hurt my leg. I can't run. A lion eats me. I'm dead.'

Well, I'm not dead. I'm the lion. You're dead.

drewkumo In the wild, there is no health care. In the wild, health care is, 'Ow, I hurt my leg. I can't run. A lion eats me. I'm dead.'Well, I'm not dead. I'm the lion. You're dead.

Er, right.

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