That's why they canceled Beavis and Butthead. There were no more videos to watch.

Remote Control was the beginning of the end.

Bring back Amp dammit.

Is MTV still on? Seriously, it used to be great when they had music videos, but last I looked it was "The Real World" followed by another episode of "The Real World." It no longer had anything to do with music.

Good MTV:

Bette Davis Eyes (new window)

Hey Mickey (new window)

Hot for Teacher (new window)

Centerfold (new window)

If you want to still see good music videos, VH1 Classic is the only way to go. And their shows that aren't videos are still better than anything on MTV. That Metal Show is perhaps the greatest thing to happen to television ever.

Mtv needs to change their name to "shiatty reality channel"

Pilate: VH1 Classic is the only way to go

do they still play videos? Last i remember, they were kind of going mid-90s MTV route where they were still playing videos, but with more and more autopilot programming.

FeedTheCollapse: Pilate: VH1 Classic is the only way to go

do they still play videos? Last i remember, they were kind of going mid-90s MTV route where they were still playing videos, but with more and more autopilot programming.

Yeah, they still play videos, but you're right that there are more and more autopilot programming. And most of their videos are in the form of "Top 100 Such and Such Videos of the [insert decade]" Still better than MTV though.

Really the only thing we can do to save TV is firebomb it and start from scratch...oh yeah, and forbid young women from watching it. Most of them say they "hate" reality shows but it's clear they aren't going to stop watching them anytime soon.

I don't care what you say, I still want a DVD release of The Maxx and The Head by way of MTV's Oddities.

/Dead at 21, on the other hand, is too much of a downer to enjoy...

If Martha Quinn was still alive, this never would have happened.

/knows Martha is still alive

I hate to say this, but MTV was known for some cutting edge tv shows as well as their music videos. The problem is, MTV sold out.

Someone needs to bring this show back in some way or another. What network doesn't matter, there are a lot of creative animators out there who need a proper platform, and a lot of stoners that are getting sick of Spongebob.

MTV2 was suppose to be the music channel after MTV became retarded reality tv. Even that now is mostly shows.

Matt pinfield and that other fat dude who liked metal cry.

eddyatwork: Remote Control was the beginning of the end.

Remote Control was also still ten quadrillion times better than the crap that would come later. And you can hardly blame one show. The problem was that the executives of twenty years ago saw the success of the show, and used that as justification to make more not-quite-music shows, which then led to not-music shows. Real World in '92 was the final crack in the dam leading to the flood of garbage today.

Pilate: FeedTheCollapse: Pilate: VH1 Classic is the only way to go

do they still play videos? Last i remember, they were kind of going mid-90s MTV route where they were still playing videos, but with more and more autopilot programming.

Yeah, they still play videos, but you're right that there are more and more autopilot programming. And most of their videos are in the form of "Top 100 Such and Such Videos of the [insert decade]" Still better than MTV though.

Which somehow think its ok to play a 10 second clip from the number ## video followed by some lame wanna-be-comedian making a joke about it.

I would love a show that actually played the entire video all of the way from start to end.

HempHead: Pilate: FeedTheCollapse: Pilate: VH1 Classic is the only way to go

do they still play videos? Last i remember, they were kind of going mid-90s MTV route where they were still playing videos, but with more and more autopilot programming.

Yeah, they still play videos, but you're right that there are more and more autopilot programming. And most of their videos are in the form of "Top 100 Such and Such Videos of the [insert decade]" Still better than MTV though.

Which somehow think its ok to play a 10 second clip from the number ## video followed by some lame wanna-be-comedian making a joke about it.

I would love a show that actually played the entire video all of the way from start to end.

Two words: Metal Mania.

Meh.

Music sucks now. Going back to showing videos isn't going to make any difference.

/lawn
//mow it or off it

Pft, if you want music videos look into getting Fuze.

I loved watching the pants off dance off :)

Oddly enough, MTV actually played videos 24/7 for about a week in 2001... right after September 11th.

It takes a national emergency for them to go back to their roots.

Gormenghast: Bring back Amp dammit.

THIS X 1,000

Killer Refresh Rate: Someone needs to bring this show [Liquid Television] back in some way or another. What network doesn't matter, there are a lot of creative animators out there who need a proper platform, and a lot of stoners that are getting sick of Spongebob.

I agree but I think that void is now filled by Adult Swim.


/Also misses "120 Minutes"

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I still want a DVD release of The Maxx and The Head by way of MTV's Oddities.

/Dead at 21, on the other hand, is too much of a downer to enjoy...

Holy crap, this. I still have the VHS release of The Maxx.

Killer Refresh Rate: Someone needs to bring this show back in some way or another. What network doesn't matter, there are a lot of creative animators out there who need a proper platform, and a lot of stoners that are getting sick of Spongebob.


Speak for yourself
/watchin' spongebob right now

creepycrawly: Holy crap, this. I still have the VHS release of The Maxx.

Not all of MTV's programming was good... but damn, The Maxx was some awesome stuff. Very trippy, very watchable.

Quitcher whinin'!

MTV put up most of the airable videos @ MTVmusic.com (new window)

So the question is - why would bands today even make videos? I think they are being made though, but where are they shown?

CruiserTwelve: Good MTV:

Bette Davis Eyes (new window)

Hey Mickey (new window)

Hot for Teacher (new window)

Centerfold (new window)

The moment after which it all went downhill (new window)

Pilate: Two words: Metal Mania.

GAME. SET. MATCH.

When will there be a true music television station? There's a BIG opportunity. No real competition, easy to program/low costs, etc...

Bring back the music television of the late 80's!

Someone on Fark who worked at MTV posted a while back a long, but very informative piece on how MTV got where it is today.

In short - a channel with videos doesn't bring viewers. And that doesn't generate ad dollars and profit. But once they started overloading the channel with obnoxious, over-the-top garbage, viewers tuned in by the millions. They were suddenly a huge powerhouse network who could command high ad-dollars.

Let's be honest with ourselves. If you owned MTV (or worked there), what would you want? A couple hundred thousand fans watching videos or 10million+ viewers glued to that piece of crap for 2-3 hours at a time? The latter works better for everyone involved. People get entertainment, share-holders see revenue, and it creates jobs.

I hate MTV and haven't watched it in years, but it's kicking ass at holding viewers. Music videos can't do that.

Killer Refresh Rate: Someone needs to bring this show back in some way or another. What network doesn't matter, there are a lot of creative animators out there who need a proper platform, and a lot of stoners that are getting sick of Spongebob.

God do I miss Liquid TV.

ChicagoJohn:
Let's be honest with ourselves. If you owned MTV (or worked there), what would you want? A couple hundred thousand fans watching videos or 10million+ viewers glued to that piece of crap for 2-3 hours at a time? The latter works better for everyone involved. People get entertainment, share-holders see revenue, and it creates jobs.

Good thing you don't work on Broadway.

jennyz: Oddly enough, MTV actually played videos 24/7 for about a week in 2001... right after September 11th.

It takes a national emergency for them to go back to their roots.

You mean like when MTV showed actual videos right after Michael Jackson was announced dead?

Yeah, I know it wasn't a national emergency, but it did answer the age old question "Who the fark do we have to kill to get MTV to play music videos again?!?"

ChicagoJohn:
In short - a channel with videos doesn't bring viewers. And that doesn't generate ad dollars and profit. But once they started overloading the channel with obnoxious, over-the-top garbage, viewers tuned in by the millions. They were suddenly a huge powerhouse network who could command high ad-dollars.

Let's be honest with ourselves. If you owned MTV (or worked there), what would you want? A couple hundred thousand fans watching videos or 10million+ viewers glued to that piece of crap for 2-3 hours at a time? The latter works better for everyone involved. People get entertainment, share-holders see revenue, and it creates jobs.

I hate MTV and haven't watched it in years, but it's kicking ass at holding viewers. Music videos can't do that.

This is what has happened to all niche programming channels... Sci-Fi, Game Show Network, Tech TV, Court TV, Cartoon Network, TV Land, Nick at Nite, TLC, Discovery, History Channel... the list goes on and on and on. Each one of 'em have become homogenized crap because they make more money appealing to the "Ow, My Balls!" crowd instead of showing the good stuff they used to show. There's a larger group of people that will watch "Indistinguishable Reality Show #35634" and "Ow, My Balls!" than there was watching music videos, or old game shows, or old cartoons.

Sad but true.

This is why the internet will probably one day be the only place to see the good old stuff, and every broadcast channel will look the same.


/also, I know LesserEvil is joking, otherwise I would be ranting right now.

Daria was an amazing show. TRL is the beginning of the end of MTV. It gradually changed from "top 10 videos as voted by you" to "Carson Daly talk show featuring 10 second clips of music videos that you probably voted on, we really don't give a fark"

GoteamVenture: MTV2 was suppose to be the music channel after MTV became retarded reality tv. Even that now is mostly shows.


If your cable or satellite provider carries VH1 Classic, be sure to check it out.

/Waking up every morning to 80s musics videos is a great way to start the day.

finnished: So the question is - why would bands today even make videos? I think they are being made though, but where are they shown?

They're shown on the back of a dump truck, just between fake celebrity pron and Ted Stevens' email.

It's generally acknowledged that MTV stopped being MTV after the Real World premiered in 1992.

Soon after that, came the Real World marathons and othe non-music programs, and music videos were gradually removed from the channel more and more every week.

When MTV2 premiered in 1996, it was a crazy fun free form format of all music videos for a while. Then, the suits killed it too and it was removed from basic cable lineups anyway.

VH1 Classic in the mornings and late nights looks a lot like what MTV looked like before 1992, minus the VJs. Glad I got to see MTV when it was a cool thing. Yes, MTV was once a cool thing.

finnished: So the question is - why would bands today even make videos? I think they are being made though, but where are they shown?

Pretty much just YouTube...until the RIAA demands they be removed. The recording industry doesn't make much sense anymore.

With things like Youtube and downloads through cable, the idea of a network that shows nothing but music videos seems like a terrible idea. Why sit through videos that you may or may not enjoy when you can just go find the ones you want to watch?

It's a fine lawn, subby, you've got a right to defend it.


/a fine, fine lawn

On the plus side, we have youtube and the ability to share music videos with each other in ways that weren't readily available 15 years ago.

Here's my new favorite video (That's actually a few years old)

Link (new window)

Not a rick roll

dam: finnished: So the question is - why would bands today even make videos? I think they are being made though, but where are they shown?

Pretty much just YouTube...until the RIAA demands they be removed. The recording industry doesn't make much sense anymore.

I've never had any problem finding ANY music video on YouTube. Youtube has pretty much become one of my default music sources to listen to stuff I don't own and don't need to own.



Even if MTV went back to showing videos I wouldn't bother. It's all on You Tube whenever I want.

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I still want a DVD release of The Maxx

OMG, I think you, my husband, & I are the only ones to remember The Maxx!

/I was putting together a Halloween costume last month. I had white boots, a pile of white fabric & a wig thrown on an ironing board just to get them out of the way. My husband walked in and said, "Hey, it's an Isz with hair!"

Why do we even care anymore? MTV will never go back to showing videos for any significant amount of their programming. We just need to be happy with the memories and let it die the horrible death all bad things end up doing.

/fondly remembers visiting MTV Spring Break headquarters @ the Texan in Daytona when they did SB live

brigid_fitch: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: I still want a DVD release of The Maxx

OMG, I think you, my husband, & I are the only ones to remember The Maxx!



You're not the only one.

I vaguely remember the TV Show, but I've got the entire run of comics sitting on my bookshelf.

I'd love to see the TV Show (and fellow MTV Oddity The Head) to see if it holds up 15 years later, and how it compares to the comics.

brigid_fitch: OMG, I think you, my husband, & I are the only ones to remember The Maxx!

FirstNationalBastard: You're not the only one.

Heh, small world, ain't it?

Loved the show, all the Maxx voiceovers...


brigid_fitch: /I was putting together a Halloween costume last month. I had white boots, a pile of white fabric & a wig thrown on an ironing board just to get them out of the way. My husband walked in and said, "Hey, it's an Isz with hair!"

! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Hah!

Now *that's* a hell of an idea!


FirstNationalBastard: I'd love to see the TV Show (and fellow MTV Oddity The Head) to see if it holds up 15 years later, and how it compares to the comics.

I never read the comics, but I'm definitely interested to see how well the whole shebang holds up... some old shows have fared well after rewatchings, some... not so much.

Magorn:

The moment after which it all went downhill

you know that was the first and millionth video aired on MTV right? So which do you mean?

Are you being Sarcastic or Obvious?

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener
I never read the comics, but I'm definitely interested to see how well the whole shebang holds up... some old shows have fared well after rewatchings, some... not so much.

I actually have all the episodes on tape. It's not as good as you remember. But it's not as bad as you think it would be either. Totally watchable. The Maxx on the other hand, is waaaay better than you remember it. This rabbit are farking scary.