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(CNN) Misc The Office, which used to be about a shiatty place to work, is now about a shiatty place to try to not get laid off from. Although as anyone with a clue can tell you, the British recession is way better than the American one   (cnn.com) divider line 96
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LoneDust 2009-11-21 08:20:24 AM  
Are you having a laugh?

/wrong show

 
kronicfeld [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 08:23:26 AM  
I've seen it all.

 
AiryAnne 2009-11-21 08:29:24 AM  
Wasn't this a story line in the first or second season? Hence the whole merging of the two branches?

 
Shostie [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 08:37:49 AM  
I don't know, man. You can't really compare the two recessions anymore. They started in similar spots but the American recession has become its own animal.

 
BalugaJoe [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 08:47:10 AM  
I hate Ricky Gevaris

 
Hetfield 2009-11-21 08:49:34 AM  
BalugaJoe: I hate Ricky Gevaris

You are dead to me.

 
Halli [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 08:51:55 AM  
BalugaJoe: I hate Ricky Gevaris

Are you a bald manc twat with a head like a farking orange?

 
Killer Refresh Rate 2009-11-21 09:22:01 AM  
The wedding episode made me want to vomit.

However Creed speeding away after Michael jokingly accuses him of murder nearly made up for it.

 
Dr. Q Alias 2009-11-21 09:25:52 AM  
BalugaJoe: I hate Ricky Gevaris

Oh really? Personally I think he's hilarious on Exrats.

 
Hetfield 2009-11-21 09:39:21 AM  

 
skinink 2009-11-21 09:40:50 AM  

I have to say the UK version of the Office is superior because of what they allowed to show over there in Britian. It allows the characters to act more naturally than they do in the US version (which I like also). Dwight has done a lot of things that he should have been fired for long time ago, but his character in the UK version is an idiot but never did anything so bad it was something he could be fired for.


And as opposed to Michael Scott, David Brent was fired for his incompetence. And I have to say no episode of the US version couldn't match up to the Christmas episodes of the original.


 
The President of Hittin' That Ass 2009-11-21 09:47:05 AM  
skinink: no episode of the US version couldn't match up to the Christmas episodes of the original

I turn my head sideways and stare uncomprehendingly. But I think I'm with you on this.

 
FlashHarry [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 09:57:17 AM  
i'm an expat englishman so i'm an anglophile by default. it's my opinion that whenever a UK show is transplanted to the US, it immediately sucks - barring a few exceptions (sanford & son, all in the family). i also love, love, LOVE the original gervais office. so, i watched the US version expecting it to be shiat - especially when gervais himself was about 80% of the show.

to my astonishment, the US office is, though necessarily different, quite brilliant in its own right.

 
Nabb1 [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 09:58:38 AM  
Some people just don't get British recessions, submitter.

 
mattharvest [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 10:03:46 AM  
Killer Refresh Rate: The wedding episode made me want to vomit.

However Creed speeding away after Michael jokingly accuses him of murder nearly made up for it.


Maybe it was because it was the week after my wedding, but I loved that episode.

That said, I do like where they're going now with it being about contemporary job topics.

 
Aar1012 2009-11-21 10:17:09 AM  
FlashHarry: to my astonishment, the US office is, though necessarily different, quite brilliant in its own right.

That's what she said!

/wait what?
//*looks directly into the camera*

 
Courtney Cox-Zucker 2009-11-21 10:23:13 AM  
Killer Refresh Rate: The wedding episode made me want to vomit.

I thought Dwight kicking that girl in the face while they mimicked that YouTube wedding dance clip, not to mention Michael hooking up with Pam's mom, were strokes of comic genius.

/Did you see this? It was on YouTube!

 
mattharvest [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 10:29:57 AM  
Courtney Cox-Zucker: Killer Refresh Rate: The wedding episode made me want to vomit.

I thought Dwight kicking that girl in the face while they mimicked that YouTube wedding dance clip, not to mention Michael hooking up with Pam's mom, were strokes of comic genius.

/Did you see this? It was on YouTube!


I loved it, but I wish they'd ratchet Dwight back a bit. He's best when he's just socially defective, not insane.

E.g. the Recyclops stuff this week. It was just too absurd. However, it was kind of redeemed by retroactively inserting him into the previous years of the show, w/ the different receptionists.

 
johnnyboog [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 10:35:55 AM  
God bless you, Recyclops, and your cold, robot heart.

 
ihatedumbpeople 2009-11-21 10:41:48 AM  
mattharvest: Courtney Cox-Zucker: Killer Refresh Rate: The wedding episode made me want to vomit.

I thought Dwight kicking that girl in the face while they mimicked that YouTube wedding dance clip, not to mention Michael hooking up with Pam's mom, were strokes of comic genius.

/Did you see this? It was on YouTube!

I loved it, but I wish they'd ratchet Dwight back a bit. He's best when he's just socially defective, not insane.

E.g. the Recyclops stuff this week. It was just too absurd. However, it was kind of redeemed by retroactively inserting him into the previous years of the show, w/ the different receptionists.


I thought the recyclops stuff was pretty funny, but his rant at the meeting was lame...granted, I think it was supposed to be lame...

 
Heroic Poser 2009-11-21 10:52:56 AM  
I fell asleep three times trying to make it through the UK version.

That said, the whole "Let's spend a lot of money and figure out how we can stop being bankrupt" REALLY struck home as I've worked for two such companies.
I felt like Oscar a LOT those days.

/except I'm not an accountant
//and I don't know about Bull Fighting

 
Lost Thought 00 2009-11-21 11:16:27 AM  
The Office is little more than a live-action Dilbert cartoon

 
PizzaJedi81 2009-11-21 11:18:29 AM  
Lost Thought 00: The Office is little more than a live-action Dilbert cartoon

How is that bad?

 
Iceberg659 2009-11-21 11:21:54 AM  
I'm a fan of the American version of the Office but the ham-fisted insertion of "Michael being Micheal" type behavior into the wedding dinner and the shareholders meeting was annoying.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2009-11-21 11:29:41 AM  
skinink: And as opposed to Michael Scott, David Brent was fired for his incompetence

I will admit that I was a bit relieved when someone finally called Michael an idiot the other night. But they backed up Michael by saying he's the most successful of the Managers.... which they still ahven't figured out why.

I like the show. it's still funny, but it's becoming less and less rooted in reality; which seems to be the show's initial appeal. This season is at least a huge improvement over last season, which was abysmal.

 
thegod082 2009-11-21 11:30:40 AM  
FlashHarry: i'm an expat englishman so i'm an anglophile by default. it's my opinion that whenever a UK show is transplanted to the US, it immediately sucks - barring a few exceptions (sanford & son, all in the family). i also love, love, LOVE the original gervais office. so, i watched the US version expecting it to be shiat - especially when gervais himself was about 80% of the show.

to my astonishment, the US office is, though necessarily different, quite brilliant in its own right.


"Quite brilliant?" You must be British.

 
there4igraham 2009-11-21 11:45:46 AM  
People don't understand the differences between the two because they're too busy trying to figure out why each (or just the UK version) is superior.

David Brent is a little too one dimensional. He is for lack of a better description a hapless boob which results in his sacking. What makes Micheal Scott brilliant is that while he is obnoxious and a little dim-witted, the writers allow us to see how he was able to reach his status as regional manager. When it's all on the line Scott always delivers and is in essence the anti-hero of The Office.

The secondary characters are victims of plot devices which, thankfully are supported by an incredible supporting cast. This ensures that viewers keep a watchful eye on what is happening.

Comparing the two is like comparing an orange to orange juice. Yes they're essentially the same thing. Just because one has been peeled, processed, and packaged doesn't make it any less delicious.

 
Jamdug! 2009-11-21 11:47:50 AM  
What recession?

Was this written 6 months ago?

 
PizzaJedi81 2009-11-21 11:53:13 AM  
there4igraham: David Brent is a little too one dimensional.

You mean two-dimensional. One dimensionality exists only in theory as a mathematical value.

/wonder who'll get this first

 
FeedTheCollapse 2009-11-21 11:55:21 AM  
there4igraham: David Brent is a little too one dimensional. He is for lack of a better description a hapless boob which results in his sacking. What makes Micheal Scott brilliant is that while he is obnoxious and a little dim-witted, the writers allow us to see how he was able to reach his status as regional manager. When it's all on the line Scott always delivers and is in essence the anti-hero of The Office.



Eh? I have never seen the UK version, but Michael Scott is pretty damn one-dimensional. I think Holly was a ham-fisted attempted to display his Other Sides, but it just came off as mopey and unlikeable. And I STILL don't get why he's manager and why he's the company's most profitable manager.


Again, I like the show, but it's becoming more of stretched in terms of believability.

 
phedex 2009-11-21 12:07:18 PM  
as a U.S. fella who jumped on the UK office bandwagon before the U.S. one popped... I was with the US version for the first two seasons.

UK office did right (its been said here a million times) by killing off the show at its peak and at the end of the story line. I think what gets me about the US version is its SO STRETCHED THIN. I've tried to get back watching it but it just seems like a sitcom now.

Although, can't remember her name...the girl who was jim's love interest in the second season, my god she turned me on.shiat, theres another example. the UK office didn't have "babes" on. Tim's love interests were cute girls we would all be kind of interested in if we worked together.

just seemed a little more real to me, damnit.

 
ingineervt 2009-11-21 12:08:12 PM  
Let me ask you something:

Michael Scott is feisty? He's not sassy or jolly? Is he a pants wearer or dress wearer? Does...does he play infield or catcher? I think I'm being clear what I'm asking here.

Can he fit into a row-boat? Will...will an average size row-boat support his weight without capsizing?

The fact that you're not responding concerns me.

 
coco ebert [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 12:10:54 PM  
I like the UK Office more but I think the side characters on the American version are better.

 
bel4sucks 2009-11-21 12:11:33 PM  
phedex: as a U.S. fella who jumped on the UK office bandwagon before the U.S. one popped... I was with the US version for the first two seasons.

UK office did right (its been said here a million times) by killing off the show at its peak and at the end of the story line. I think what gets me about the US version is its SO STRETCHED THIN. I've tried to get back watching it but it just seems like a sitcom now.

Although, can't remember her name...the girl who was jim's love interest in the second season, my god she turned me on.shiat, theres another example. the UK office didn't have "babes" on. Tim's love interests were cute girls we would all be kind of interested in if we worked together.

just seemed a little more real to me, damnit.


If you're talking about Karen, the girl he met at the other branch when he worked there, that's Rashida Jones. She's on Parks and Recreation now.

 
titwrench 2009-11-21 12:15:38 PM  
Iceberg659: I'm a fan of the American version of the Office but the ham-fisted insertion of "Michael being Micheal" type behavior into the wedding dinner and the shareholders meeting was annoying.

I have actually worked for a boss VERY much like him to the point it makes me uncomfortable to watch this show sometimes. It's like I know exactly what is going to happen before it does because I have witnessed it. We had a meeting in Vegas once and our guest speaker was Tony Gwinn (a hall of fame baseball player for those who don't know) and my boss interrupted him every 2 minutes to relate his little league career as a parallel and compare accomplishments. It was painful.

Yeah I know, cool story bro.

 
HempHead 2009-11-21 12:16:47 PM  
PizzaJedi81: one dimen

PizzaJedi81: there4igraham: David Brent is a little too one dimensional.

You mean two-dimensional. One dimensionality exists only in theory as a mathematical value.

/wonder who'll get this first


www.standforjustice.com

 
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 12:20:15 PM  
FeedTheCollapse: And I STILL don't get why he's manager and why he's the company's most profitable manager.

Michael is the living embodiment of the Peter Principle: a guy who was promoted one step beyond his level of competency and is now way over his head. Happens all the time.*

As to why he's the most profitable manager -- there have been a couple episodes that show that Dwight, Jim, Phyllis, and Stanley are also really good salesmen, despite Michael's managing.

/*David Brent is the mystery to me: how did THAT guy get promoted.

 
soupbone [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 12:24:06 PM  
ngoisao.net


/I'll leave that right here...

 
cdub11 [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 12:31:18 PM  
I love the US Office but I have noticed the decline in the believability of Micheal. He's become a characterisation of himself. I liked it better when he just said inapropriate things and screwed up metaphors. He just tries to be enveyone's buddy and it doesn't always work for him. That's the Micheal Scott I know and love.

/Stanley you're heart sucks and you crush you're wife during sex
//boom roasted!

 
jevman [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 12:33:30 PM  
Ya I thought this too when I read the article, for the other shows, maybe the recession is written in as a plot device. For the Office its the company has been in trouble since day one and its been obvious from then when the show ends it does so with the office closing.

BTW, if you watch the office and didn't find the wedding episode hilarious, you have no soul.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2009-11-21 12:34:26 PM  
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Michael is the living embodiment of the Peter Principle: a guy who was promoted one step beyond his level of competency and is now way over his head. Happens all the time.*

maybe so, but he's done a lot of shiat that would get most people fired rather than a stern look.

 
Why Would I Read the Article 2009-11-21 12:45:08 PM  
The first 5 seasons were great, but this season has been pretty bad. Hopefully it improves, but it seems to be heading down the toilet.

 
Melquiades 2009-11-21 01:12:15 PM  
This may be the first time that a male subordinate has attempted to get a modest scheduled raise by threatening to withhold sex from a female superior. It will be a groundbreaking case when it inevitably goes to trial.

I love Toby.

 
Tor_Eckman [TotalFark] 2009-11-21 01:35:38 PM  
bel4sucks: phedex: as a U.S. fella who jumped on the UK office bandwagon before the U.S. one popped... I was with the US version for the first two seasons.

UK office did right (its been said here a million times) by killing off the show at its peak and at the end of the story line. I think what gets me about the US version is its SO STRETCHED THIN. I've tried to get back watching it but it just seems like a sitcom now.

Although, can't remember her name...the girl who was jim's love interest in the second season, my god she turned me on.shiat, theres another example. the UK office didn't have "babes" on. Tim's love interests were cute girls we would all be kind of interested in if we worked together.

just seemed a little more real to me, damnit.

If you're talking about Karen, the girl he met at the other branch when he worked there, that's Rashida Jones. She's on Parks and Recreation now.


...and is the crotchfruit of Quincy Jones and Peggy Lipton from The Mod Squad.

 
phedex 2009-11-21 01:48:41 PM  
Tor_Eckman: bel4sucks: phedex: as a U.S. fella who jumped on the UK office bandwagon before the U.S. one popped... I was with the US version for the first two seasons.

UK office did right (its been said here a million times) by killing off the show at its peak and at the end of the story line. I think what gets me about the US version is its SO STRETCHED THIN. I've tried to get back watching it but it just seems like a sitcom now.

Although, can't remember her name...the girl who was jim's love interest in the second season, my god she turned me on.shiat, theres another example. the UK office didn't have "babes" on. Tim's love interests were cute girls we would all be kind of interested in if we worked together.

just seemed a little more real to me, damnit.

If you're talking about Karen, the girl he met at the other branch when he worked there, that's Rashida Jones. She's on Parks and Recreation now.

...and is the crotchfruit of Quincy Jones and Peggy Lipton from The Mod Squad.


Ah, yes. thats the girl. Whooo-nelly, she's beautiful.

 
Grey Street 2009-11-21 01:49:01 PM  
Melquiades: This may be the first time that a male subordinate has attempted to get a modest scheduled raise by threatening to withhold sex from a female superior. It will be a groundbreaking case when it inevitably goes to trial.

I love Toby.


"Why are you...the way that you are? I hate so much...about the things you choose to be."

Michael's total and complete loathing of Toby is one of the best things about the show. Toby's little victories over Michael, like when they're reading Michael's diary in the Deposition episode and he just giggles when the reader describes how sexy Michael thinks Ryan is, are magnificent.

 
EchoMike 2009-11-21 01:49:44 PM  
I had to stop watching it. The current storyline is too similar to what's going on at the company I work for in real life. I want to watch TV to escape from reality -- not to be reminded of it.

 
Galactic_Empanada 2009-11-21 01:49:52 PM  
I really like the way The Office is heading. The Pam/Jim tension got to be too much at times. I like how the show is more about Michael now.



Creed/Toby FTW

 
Vash The Stampede 2009-11-21 01:50:28 PM  
FeedTheCollapse: skinink: And as opposed to Michael Scott, David Brent was fired for his incompetence

I will admit that I was a bit relieved when someone finally called Michael an idiot the other night. But they backed up Michael by saying he's the most successful of the Managers.... which they still ahven't figured out why.

I like the show. it's still funny, but it's becoming less and less rooted in reality; which seems to be the show's initial appeal. This season is at least a huge improvement over last season, which was abysmal.



I agree, I really liked the first 3 seasons of the show, but by season 5 I was really starting to lose interest because the plots became so outlandish. Season 1 and 2 had entire episodes dedicated to small inter-office issues like health care and e-mail forwarding, and that's what made it so funny.

 
PizzaJedi81 2009-11-21 01:54:47 PM  
HempHead: PizzaJedi81: one dimen

PizzaJedi81: there4igraham: David Brent is a little too one dimensional.

You mean two-dimensional. One dimensionality exists only in theory as a mathematical value.

/wonder who'll get this first


Um...no.

 
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