Shaggy_C: They're going to end up radicalizing even moreso.

who cares, just keep the oil and NG coming.

Farked already?

Obama used a speech in South Korea's capital, Seoul, to warn that the lesson of dealing with neighbouring North Korea was that Tehran must meet a deadline for complying with international demands and would face unspecified "consequences" if it did not.


A UN resolution of "Tsk tsk, naughty Iran, NAUGHTY!", no doubt.

Sanctions?

Why don't we increase our reality tv exports? We'll break them within weeks.

Ohhhh, fresh sanctions.

They haven't worked in the past, and they won't work now.

/How's that Afghanistan "decision" coming?

HotWingConspiracy:
Why don't we increase our reality tv exports? We'll break them within weeks.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Ohhhh, fresh sanctions.

They haven't worked in the past, and they won't work now.

/How's that Afghanistan "decision" coming?

-1 didn't use buzzword "dithering"

Headso: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Ohhhh, fresh sanctions.

They haven't worked in the past, and they won't work now.

/How's that Afghanistan "decision" coming?

-1 didn't use buzzword "dithering"

No buzzword needed for reality.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Ohhhh, fresh sanctions.

They haven't worked in the past, and they won't work now.

/How's that Afghanistan "decision" coming?

As Opposed to what? An Invasion?

3_Butt_Cheeks: They haven't worked in the past, and they won't work now.

I agree. So what do you think we should do?

3_Butt_Cheeks: Headso: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Ohhhh, fresh sanctions.

They haven't worked in the past, and they won't work now.

/How's that Afghanistan "decision" coming?

-1 didn't use buzzword "dithering"

No buzzword needed for reality.

The "reality" spoon fed to you on AM radio and fox news.

Sanctions are for pussies. If Obambi was a good president he would bomb the shiat out of Iran, send in thousands of soldiers, liberate the shiat out if those heathen sand monkeys, and spend trillions of dollars in the process.

Komplex: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Ohhhh, fresh sanctions.

They haven't worked in the past, and they won't work now.

/How's that Afghanistan "decision" coming?

As Opposed to what? An Invasion?

We are already in Afghanistan, so that would be kinda a moot point.

Headso: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Headso: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Ohhhh, fresh sanctions.

They haven't worked in the past, and they won't work now.

/How's that Afghanistan "decision" coming?

-1 didn't use buzzword "dithering"

No buzzword needed for reality.

The "reality" spoon fed to you on AM radio and fox news.

Ok, so I'll let you tell me which of the two points I called "reality" are not.

1) Sanctions in the past haven't worked.

2) No decision has been made on Afghanistan.

"I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's create conditions in his country so many children will die!"

vernonFL: 3_Butt_Cheeks: They haven't worked in the past, and they won't work now.

I agree. So what do you think we should do?

I'd try giving things instead of taking them away. Can't do much worse I suppose.

"Stop this nuclear weapons development nonsense and will give you DVR and WoW."

Unless gasoline is on that sanction list and somehow Russia and China are onboard with these "new" sanctions then this article (and all subsequent discussion of it) are useless.

A nuclear free world!!!
/keep chasing windmills Don Quixote
//A better Sancho Panza - Pelosi or Reid?

Eventually, the Iranian leadership will be crushed by the weight of our strongly worded letters.

3_Butt_Cheeks: 2) No decision has been made on Afghanistan.

You know damn farking well you were told to say that about Afghanistan by the people who tell you what to think and say, it's been the outrage of the month. The real reality is it would take many months, up to 13 months to even move the troops into the country and you guys are told to complain about a decision being made a few weeks later than the people who tell you what to think wanted it.

vaderstg: Unless gasoline is on that sanction list and somehow Russia and China are onboard with these "new" sanctions then this article (and all subsequent discussion of it) are useless.

A nuclear free world!!!
/keep chasing windmills Don Quixote
//A better Sancho Panza - Pelosi or Reid?

That reference doesn't work at all here.

3_Butt_Cheeks: I'd try giving things instead of taking them away. Can't do much worse I suppose.

The worst part is that they're not even breaking any laws with their nuclear development. They are allowed reactors per the NPT. We're just sanctioning them for ages-old vindication for throwing our puppet dictator out of power 30 years ago.

soy_bomb: Eventually, the Iranian leadership will be crushed by the weight of our strongly worded letters.

All you keyboard commandos should go invade the country bay of pigs style, you'll be more successful I promise!

Headso: You know damn farking well you were told to say that about Afghanistan by the people who tell you what to think and say, it's been the outrage of the month.

Yes, I got a call from Glen Beck this morning. Asshat woke me up! He told me to immediately go on FARK and post something about Obama still not making a decision on Afghanistan.

OR, you agree that what I posted is indeed reality as I said, and you should just finish your coffee and wake up a little before posting.

Tripp Johnston Private Eye: "I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's create conditions in his country so many children will die!"

"I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's issue a series of ineffectual threats and make the West look like feckless wimps!

HotWingConspiracy:

A nuclear free world!!!
/keep chasing windmills Don Quixote
//A better Sancho Panza - Pelosi or Reid?

That reference doesn't work at all here.

Fine. Not my best effort but nothing else came to mind.
I was just trying to say he's picking a fight he can't win.

The point is that Obama is spending valuable political capital chasing a pipedream. A) nuclear proliferation is going to happen and B) there are way better solutions when it comes to dealing with Iran than bogus sanctions.

3_Butt_Cheeks: OR, you agree that what I posted is indeed reality as I said, and you should just finish your coffee and wake up a little before posting.

It's not reality, it's the outrage of the month. You'll have a new whine next month and a new one the one after.

jjorsett: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: "I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's create conditions in his country so many children will die!"

"I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's issue a series of ineffectual threats and make the West look like feckless wimps!

How would you handle Iran differently, if you were the President?

Shaggy_C: Once again we're giving a freedom loving people a deep thrust from our military-industrial Weeners, and see what happens. They're going to end up radicalizing even moreso.

Oh bs, they are going to do that anyway. If you think otherwise, you're not paying attention.

vaderstg: B) there are way better solutions when it comes to dealing with Iran than bogus sanctions.

Such as?

Headso: 3_Butt_Cheeks: OR, you agree that what I posted is indeed reality as I said, and you should just finish your coffee and wake up a little before posting.

It's not reality


Wow, so you are the first the break the news about Obama making up his mind on Afghanistan! Great job brother!! Please leak thin info to the news outlets so everyone else can find out too, k?

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Shaggy_C: Once again we're giving a freedom loving people a deep thrust from our military-industrial Weeners, and see what happens. They're going to end up radicalizing even moreso.

Oh bs, they are going to do that anyway. If you think otherwise, you're not paying attention.

Actually the Iranians were moderating until the US started all it's saber rattling and "Axis of evil" nonsense. We actually help the hardliners in Iran with that stuff.

The Homer Tax: jjorsett: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: "I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's create conditions in his country so many children will die!"

"I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's issue a series of ineffectual threats and make the West look like feckless wimps!

How would you handle Iran differently, if you were the President?

I've answer that same question earlier.

Do you have an adequate answer already in mind?

3_Butt_Cheeks: Headso: 3_Butt_Cheeks: OR, you agree that what I posted is indeed reality as I said, and you should just finish your coffee and wake up a little before posting.

It's not reality


Wow, so you are the first the break the news about Obama making up his mind on Afghanistan! Great job brother!! Please leak thin info to the news outlets so everyone else can find out too, k?

The reality is spending time on a decision to send 40,000 troops into a farking warzone is nothing to whine about. But keyboard commando sociopaths like you don't care about them.

3_Butt_Cheeks: The Homer Tax: jjorsett: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: "I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's create conditions in his country so many children will die!"

"I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's issue a series of ineffectual threats and make the West look like feckless wimps!

How would you handle Iran differently, if you were the President?

I've answer that same question earlier.

Do you have an adequate answer already in mind?

I missed your post, but to be fair my q was directed at someone else.

What would you give them?

That can't be true. Just the other day Rush was saying the administration doesn't want to sanction Iran at all.

Who am I to trust, the mainstream MSM media or the people working hard to expose the truth?

3_Butt_Cheeks: Ohhhh, fresh sanctions.

They haven't worked in the past, and they won't work now.

I'm in Doha right now. Maybe the UN will hire me walk up to the harbour and flip off Iran from across the Gulf. That would be about as useful a deterrent as they will come up with.

Headso: The reality is spending time on a decision to send 40,000 troops into a farking warzone is nothing to whine about. But keyboard commando sociopaths like you don't care about them.

Ahhh, so back to the fact you were wrong originally. See, we could have save a lot of time and thread space had you not confused yourself earlier.

Obama hasn't made up his mind = SOCIOPATH!!!!!

:) You are on a roll today!

3_Butt_Cheeks: Headso: The reality is spending time on a decision to send 40,000 troops into a farking warzone is nothing to whine about. But keyboard commando sociopaths like you don't care about them.

Ahhh, so back to the fact you were wrong originally. See, we could have save a lot of time and thread space had you not confused yourself earlier.

Obama hasn't made up his mind = SOCIOPATH!!!!!

:) You are on a roll today!

I'm not wrong, you whined about something you were told to whine about by the people who tell you what to think and I called you on it.

The Homer Tax: 3_Butt_Cheeks: The Homer Tax: jjorsett: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: "I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's create conditions in his country so many children will die!"

"I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's issue a series of ineffectual threats and make the West look like feckless wimps!

How would you handle Iran differently, if you were the President?

I've answer that same question earlier.

Do you have an adequate answer already in mind?

I missed your post, but to be fair my q was directed at someone else.

What would you give them?

Wasn't being snarky really, just wondered if you had something already in mind.

Hmm *scratches head*. Depends what they really need I suppose. Maybe better infrastructure technology (irriagation, water treatment, power grid shiat), help with manufacturing modernization, logistics. Provide them with stuff to make the govt look good in providing goods/services in exchange for no nukes.

Headso: I'm not wrong, you whined about something you were told to whine about by the people who tell you what to think and I called you on it.

"The people who tell me what to think"

OOGA BOOGA!!!

Since we are so close and all, exactly who might that be? Let me guess. You will 'talking point' me with OMG FOX NEWS!!!!! Glen Beck, Limbaugh....amirite?

Get a new schitck. Nobody needs a pundit to know about that story or lack thereof.

Have I not had enough coffee, or is there a response from Headso to a post by ShaggyC as the Boobies on the page... And the original post by ShaggyC always the last post on the page even when resfreshed...

3bc, that could work, but it's politically untenable.

The presidents supporters don't have a problem with his Iran strategy. His opponents are upset that he's not blowing them up (bombbombbomb bombbomb Iran).

ayenull: Have I not had enough coffee, or is there a response from Headso to a post by ShaggyC as the Boobies on the page... And the original post by ShaggyC always the last post on the page even when resfreshed...

You sir, are correct.

I've already notified the Coast Guard.

Aarontology: vaderstg: B) there are way better solutions when it comes to dealing with Iran than bogus sanctions.

Such as?

66% of Iran is under the age of 30, and about 75% of them love us. What we need to do is send Nixon to China.

Ahmadinejad, for all his crazy (and he is crazy) is detaching the political system from the mullahs. As he centers his power around the IRGC, he'll become more vulnerable to pressure from the populace when his economic reforms fail to produce (as they have, spectacularly - because socialism still doesn't work.)

So we make the trade that we'll recognize their rights to nuclear power if they recognize Israel's right to exist (both already foregone conclusions) and we can start opening economic doors with them again. Anyway, there's a lot more to it than all this, but the fact is we don't have a card in our hand that will stop their nuclear proliferation. We may as well play the cards we've got and start spreading our culture there as fast as we possibly can. They're still about 10 years away from a bomb. A lot can happen in 10 years (see China '99 vs China '09).

3_Butt_Cheeks: Nobody needs a pundit to know about that story or lack thereof.

Everything you posted in here has been filtered through punditry, Where did you get the information that Obama "not making a decision on Afghanistan" is worth ridicule? Who even framed the debate as "Obama not making a decision on Afghanistan" if it wasn't pundits?

3_Butt_Cheeks: The Homer Tax: 3_Butt_Cheeks: The Homer Tax: jjorsett: Tripp Johnston Private Eye: "I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's create conditions in his country so many children will die!"

"I know how we'll get Ahmadinejad to do what we want! Let's issue a series of ineffectual threats and make the West look like feckless wimps!

How would you handle Iran differently, if you were the President?

I've answer that same question earlier.

Do you have an adequate answer already in mind?

I missed your post, but to be fair my q was directed at someone else.

What would you give them?

Wasn't being snarky really, just wondered if you had something already in mind.

Hmm *scratches head*. Depends what they really need I suppose. Maybe better infrastructure technology (irriagation, water treatment, power grid shiat), help with manufacturing modernization, logistics. Provide them with stuff to make the govt look good in providing goods/services in exchange for no nukes.

Good ideas. I don't know if they would work, but what we have been doing hasn't for certain. I'm always puzzled by the fact that the line by our government has been we need to trade with China because trade makes countries more interdependent and leads to peace and prosperity, yet when dealing with Iran, North Korea and others we must isolate those rouge nations.

I understand that there is no option to go to war with China(not one with the Axis of evil either) but I don't get how jaw droppingly stupid our citizens are to not see the glaring difference in policy.

Hillbilly Jim:
...yet when dealing with Iran, North Korea and others we must isolate those rouge nations.

North Korea is different and *does* need to be isolated and ultimately crushed under heel. Iran, however, we can work with.

vaderstg: Hillbilly Jim:
...yet when dealing with Iran, North Korea and others we must isolate those rouge nations.

North Korea is different and *does* need to be isolated and ultimately crushed under heel. Iran, however, we can work with.


You mean like we did to Cuba in the 60's? Oh wait...

Headso: Where did you get the information that Obama "not making a decision on Afghanistan" is worth ridicule?

I see. So when you see it on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, NYT etc etc and they point out he has yet to make a decision on this matter, against the advice of his commander on the ground, it is ridicule manufactured from pundits on the right, and parroted by all news agencies. Are you really that obtuse?

Headso: Who even framed the debate as "Obama not making a decision on Afghanistan" if it wasn't pundits?

It's not a debate. It's reality. He hasn't made a decision. See my Boobies a long time ago. This whole continuing threadshiat of yours could have been avoided had you not confused yourself.

3_Butt_Cheeks: it is ridicule manufactured from pundits on the right

yes.

Adm. Mike Mullen, America's top military officer, said Wednesday that he is comfortable with the length of time it is taking for the White House to come to a decision on the way forward in Afghanistan.

In a brief interview on Capitol Hill with The Monitor, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said he feels good about the "depth of the discussion."

The people who tell you what to think didn't mention that did they?

3_Butt_Cheeks: Headso: Where did you get the information that Obama "not making a decision on Afghanistan" is worth ridicule?

I see. So when you see it on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, NYT etc etc and they point out he has yet to make a decision on this matter, against the advice of his commander on the ground, it is ridicule manufactured from pundits on the right, and parroted by all news agencies. Are you really that obtuse?

Headso: Who even framed the debate as "Obama not making a decision on Afghanistan" if it wasn't pundits?

It's not a debate. It's reality. He hasn't made a decision. See my Boobies a long time ago. This whole continuing threadshiat of yours could have been avoided had you not confused yourself.

Actually Obama has made a decision. He decided that none of the options presented by the Pentagon had an adequate long term exit strategy, and has instructed them to revise the proposals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6549962/ B arack-Obama-to-reject-Afghanistan-war-options-in-favour-of-plan-with-clear-exit- strategy.html