FTFA: "...said he confronted Chavez with the squeegee and swung at him before Chavez took the squeegee and began beating him with it."

Yeah...it's a good idea not to start fights with people you don't know. Especially ones that will take your weapon from you and beat your ass with it.

A phone listing could not be found for Chavez and it wasn't clear whether he had an attorney.

The kid is 21. Did the AP seriously expect either of those conditions might be expected?

Done in one.

This from the same town where half a million dollars of feminine hygiene products were stolen.

/Can we get a Conway tag?

Considering it was a gas station squeegee, victim was very unlikely able to clearly see what happened. In fact, his view of the situation probably just got much dirtier and streakier.

So wait a second.

The "victim" assaulted the guy and got his ass kicked?

And now the guy who defended himself is the one in trouble?



Was the "victim" White and the "attacker" Hispanic?

Really? And I wonder why I bother to get out of bed some days. Jebus people......

Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug.

PacManDreaming: FTFA: "...said he confronted Chavez with the squeegee and swung at him before Chavez took the squeegee and began beating him with it."

Yeah...it's a good idea not to start fights with people you don't know. Especially ones that will take your weapon from you and beat your ass with it.

Or get shot.

shamwow

Done in one

/If there is anything that this horrible tragedy can teach us, it's that a male model's life is a precious, precious commodity. Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn't mean that we too can't not die in a freak gasoline fight accident.

Considering the structural rigidity of most gas station squeegees, it's amazing one could be used as a weapon. That's like being beat with a paper towel tube. Good grief.

Too logical?

Sid just likes to fight with squeegees.

/not obscure.

The handle to a squeegee can really F someone up...I've seen it in action. You swing the handle part not the wet side.

This story is full of facepalm

crab66: So wait a second.

The "victim" assaulted the guy and got his ass kicked?

And now the guy who defended himself is the one in trouble?

Was the "victim" White and the "attacker" Hispanic?

You don't "defend" yourself by disarming an opponent and THEN beating his arse with his weapon. You disarm, or you fight for as long as he holds the advantage and is still attacking you, nothing more.

Anything beyond that is an offensive counter attack, not defense. You can't always use the "he hit me first" as a get out of jail free card.

Your white statement is a nice little bit of racism by the way.. It's racist of you to think that a legal system is going to be biased because it's white and so is the person in-question.

You can counter with "but it's true" and therefore reinforce your racial stereotype and create the very same problem you're biatching about, or you can draw your conclusions from information that is actually given, namely that the race of either party wasn't identified and STFU about how someone of the white race would act illegally just because of their color.

You know, back in the 70's we had us that thing... WIN? No. Recession? No. Oh yeah. That there Embargo. Yep. That's when all the gas pumps doubled their prices over night and neighbor turn against neighbor.

It was during that there embargo when I put an onion on my belt and drove down to the Sinclair for some gasoline. Used to be Roy would come out and say "Hello Harry. Fill 'er up?" And he would put gas in the tank, wipe the winders, check the oil and the tires. I'd give his $5 for the tank full and go about my busy day.

But since that embargo happened, the gas station had to let Roy go. I think he committed suicide. Instead, there was this teenage in a bunker and all them pumps were what you call "Self Serve". Now I liked Roy but I get the fact that the times a-changing so I roll up my sleeves and proceed to fill her up.

Nowadays, you got yer fancy gas pump with the buttons and credit card ports. Back then, there were fitty switches that had to be worked exactly in sequence or you'd blow up the whole gas station. You had to work Reset Pump switch thusly, then you pulled the Safety Off Switch carefully and if all that worked, then you rotated the Gas Selection Selector to the selection of gas you wanted to select. Finally, you charged the Mono Direction Pumps with electricity until it was between 22 and 25% Hevrick and you could then start pumping gas.

Well, I was filling up old Betsy when this rich feller comes in and yells "Boy! Fill 'er up and be quick about it." He was talking to me 'cause there wasn't no one else around. I say as politely as you please "I don't work here, Johnny Golddust. This here is self serve."

Well John Gotrocks starts in to a diatribe about America declining and if the Germans had one the war there'd be a (insert minority reference of your choice) chained to that there pump and gas would still be a nickle. He then lights cigar with an American flag and spits on George Washington's portrait which he happened to have in the car with him.

I get all apologetic and tell him to calm down. I'll be happy to help a fellow American. I put the water hose in the gas port of his fine German Mercedes and I fill up his radiator with gasoline. I put 110 psi of air in each of his whaite wall tires and I wash his windows inside and out with depleted uranium.

He tells me I did him a fine job and if he hadn't sold his factory to the Japanese, he would have considered me for a middle manager position. I then thanked him and shot him neatly behind the ear with a small caliber pistol. I kicked his car in to gear and watched it roll on the highway where it exploded.

I then took my onion off and handed it to the kid in the gas station bunker as was the custom of that day.

And that's how we settled gas pump conflicts back in my day.

Oh Harry Freakstorm. That's one hell of a story.

VerbalKentt: Yes you do...if you disarm someone you have every right to wear his ass out w/ his own weapon.

If you take a knife away from someone, and then stab them, you are going to jail.

Pro Zack: VerbalKentt: Yes you do...if you disarm someone you have every right to wear his ass out w/ his own weapon.

If you take a knife away from someone, and then stab them, you are going to jail.

Certain things are worth the trouble. And there's also something called due process...you fail as judge jury executioner.

-secondly please tell me when myself or you will be taking a knife from this maniac vilian??? Not sure about you but I live in reality and not in the Beat It Video nor a Steven Segal movie.

Saw this in my local news the other day. It doesn't offer much explanation as to how the guy ended up getting arrested either.

But it does name the other person. Baltimore paper farking up a story from half way across the country. Good job!

The dude got cut in line and then got beat by a squeegee that was taken from him.

LOL

How do you go home and tell your woman about that?

VerbalKentt: Pro Zack: VerbalKentt: Yes you do...if you disarm someone you have every right to wear his ass out w/ his own weapon.

If you take a knife away from someone, and then stab them, you are going to jail.

Certain things are worth the trouble. And there's also something called due process...you fail as judge jury executioner.

-secondly please tell me when myself or you will be taking a knife from this maniac vilian??? Not sure about you but I live in reality and not in the Beat It Video nor a Steven Segal movie.

He made the situation clear by defining it in a more obvious fashion. It wasn't an attempt to suggest that you had ninja-like abilities... so settle down. lol Stick with the squeegee analogy if it helps you avoid distraction.

He's correct though.. you use the phrase "every right" but the legal system doesn't agree with you on that. If you have the man's knife, you are attacking an unarmed man, not because your life was in danger anymore, but out of retribution or revenge. The unarmed man MAY have wanted to kill you, but as soon as he's become unable to do so, and stops attacking you, he is no longer a threat.

So he might get an assault charge, and possibly a battery charge if he managed to injure you first, but if you actually disarm and THEN attack him, you MIGHT be facing stiffer penalties, especially if your attack manages to kill him or something.

Dead-Guy: VerbalKentt: Pro Zack: VerbalKentt: Yes you do...if you disarm someone you have every right to wear his ass out w/ his own weapon.

If you take a knife away from someone, and then stab them, you are going to jail.

Certain things are worth the trouble. And there's also something called due process...you fail as judge jury executioner.

-secondly please tell me when myself or you will be taking a knife from this maniac vilian??? Not sure about you but I live in reality and not in the Beat It Video nor a Steven Segal movie.

He made the situation clear by defining it in a more obvious fashion. It wasn't an attempt to suggest that you had ninja-like abilities... so settle down. lol Stick with the squeegee analogy if it helps you avoid distraction.

He's correct though.. you use the phrase "every right" but the legal system doesn't agree with you on that. If you have the man's knife, you are attacking an unarmed man, not because your life was in danger anymore, but out of retribution or revenge. The unarmed man MAY have wanted to kill you, but as soon as he's become unable to do so, and stops attacking you, he is no longer a threat.

So he might get an assault charge, and possibly a battery charge if he managed to injure you first, but if you actually disarm and THEN attack him, you MIGHT be facing stiffer penalties, especially if your attack manages to kill him or something.

Fortunately law isn't this simple and isn't black and white...who's to say you're not in danger anymore? What if he's lost his knife and going for something else? What if he's still coming at you with bare hands....What if he has a ray gun...what if he knows how to use "the force"....or is a wolf from twilight? Then what?


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chain gun smoke: The dude got cut in line and then got beat by a squeegee that was taken from him.

LOL

How do you go home and tell your woman about that?

LOL
So there was this dude, right? It was my turn at the pump and I was squeegeeing the car and this dude.. like 700pounds and 7 foot tall, like a professional body builder. He's like "Get outta' the freakin' way!"

NO way was I gonna' let him disrespect me like that, so I smacked him with the squeegee.. he starts crying and stuff, and I was a little embarassed because you're always telling me to watch for other people's feelings.. Anyways, I attempt to comfort him and apologize and next thing you know he grabs the thing and whacks me right in the head with it!!

I saw the police coming, and I didn't want to go to jail or anything, so I stepped back my rage and he kept hitting me with it. I felt really bad for the guy, so I let him get a few good shots to kinda' make up for what I'd done to him. So I didn't block real hard.. I just kinda' turned the other cheek.. I figured I could take it. I did good, right? I mean, I coulda' kept going and been the one in jail, but I had compassion, like you kept telling me.. compassion, and with those cops coming, SOMEONE was gonna' go to jail, and I figured you'd want it be him, instead of worrying about me.

I'm a lover not a fighter baby..

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VerbalKentt:

Fortunately law isn't this simple and isn't black and white...who's to say you're not in danger anymore? What if he's lost his knife and going for something else? What if he's still coming at you with bare hands....What if he has a ray gun...what if he knows how to use "the force"....or is a wolf from twilight? Then what?


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Yeah, ok.. reality check. Disarming a man and then attacking him is prosecutable. There is the possibility of extenuating circumstances, but you still don't have "every right" to attack them after you've disarmed them, which was your claim that was being disputed.

No point in further discussion if you're just going to keep changing scenarios. I mean, I could say perhaps you were unaware your hair was on fire and the guy attempted to extinguish it by hitting you on the head with a squeegee. You then grabbed the squeegee, ran after him, knocked him down and then shoved it into his eye and killed him because you "always" have "every right" to attack and beat an unarmed man to a bloody pulp.

Of course that'd be a stupid argument though right? it'd be doing the same thing you were. So.. I'm done, you win the interwebs, and you argue like my ex wife. lol

Dead-Guy: VerbalKentt:

Fortunately law isn't this simple and isn't black and white...who's to say you're not in danger anymore? What if he's lost his knife and going for something else? What if he's still coming at you with bare hands....What if he has a ray gun...what if he knows how to use "the force"....or is a wolf from twilight? Then what?


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Yeah, ok.. reality check. Disarming a man and then attacking him is prosecutable. There is the possibility of extenuating circumstances, but you still don't have "every right" to attack them after you've disarmed them, which was your claim that was being disputed.

No point in further discussion if you're just going to keep changing scenarios. I mean, I could say perhaps you were unaware your hair was on fire and the guy attempted to extinguish it by hitting you on the head with a squeegee. You then grabbed the squeegee, ran after him, knocked him down and then shoved it into his eye and killed him because you "always" have "every right" to attack and beat an unarmed man to a bloody pulp.

Of course that'd be a stupid argument though right? it'd be doing the same thing you were. So.. I'm done, you win the interwebs, and you argue like my ex wife. lol

Easy I'm just passing time at my desk on a friday.....

And yes your ex taught me how to argue...but I taught her the orgasim...

my bad

Pro Zack: If you take a knife away from someone, and then stab them, you are going to jail.

No you're not. Especially if the attacker continues to attack to. Just because an attacker isn't armed and you are doesn't mean you're not in danger. You should really look up the self defense laws of your state and any other state you may travel to.

Oh, NEVER try to take a knife away from someone. Ever. It doesn't work and you'll only end up getting carved up like a Thanksgiving turkey.