With a gun to my head I would have guessed Chuck Klosterman wrote that line.

"Kinda?"

wow, Spin has snarky, contrary opinion.

should have used the Newsflash tag, subby

I don't think they blow, but I never got the hype. Same with Oasis. Ditto Coldplay.

You know what's great? You can listen only to the Radiohead you like or, alternatively, not listen at all.

I like Radiohead a lot, but I can also understand why others may not like them. They're less about music and more about audio art experimentation. That's not everyone's cup of tea.

I didn't mind Radiohead when they were writing...y'know...songs? I still fire up "The Bends," "Pablo Honey," and "Ok Computer" once in awhile. But as soon as the directionless, masturbatey noodle-fest started happening? The whole, "you're just not sophisticated enough to get their new direction" attitude just came off like so much naked-emperor posturing. So I guess that officially means I've gotten JUST old enough to genuinely stop giving a shiat what other people think of my taste in music.

I like songs. Songs have form, and balance. If I wanted "soundscapes," I'd listen to Sigur Ros.

You just now figuring that out?

Shut your mouth Spin! Kid A is still one of my favourite albums of all time. And I liked it when everyone was whining "Radiohead isn't writing songs anymore! OK Computer was better!"

In Rainbows is just as good as Kid A. I never listen to Hail to the Thief anymore, but those two albums are iPod mainstays.

Lando Lincoln: They're less about music and more about audio art experimentation.

I've never understood the "Where's the songs?! Harumpf!" argument against Radiohead. Sure, there's some definitely noodly art crap made by Radiohead, but Pyramid Song, Optimistic, House of Cards aren't songs?

I don't get it. I don't have a deep emotional connection to Radiohead at all, and I don't think they're among the absolute greatest bands of all time, but I can't comprehend a music-judging rubric that would consider them anywhere near a bad band or their music anywhere near bad music.

/has never gotten the "excessively difficult" argument against Kid A

tarkus1980: I don't get it. I don't have a deep emotional connection to Radiohead at all, and I don't think they're among the absolute greatest bands of all time, but I can't comprehend a music-judging rubric that would consider them anywhere near a bad band or their music anywhere near bad music.

/has never gotten the "excessively difficult" argument against Kid A

I'll handle this one.

Observe a 'tweenager' listening to the radio: watch as the station gets changed 25 times in the first minute; gather in the alpha-state hundred-yard stare of the subject; note how many songs are perfectly engineered with autotune and major key construction to completely avoid personality. Just try to listen to ONE GODDAMN SONG IN ITS ENTIRETY ... sorry.

Radiohead isn't playing the same pop music game any more, but SPIN still has to attract that audience for its advertisers.

How can you not like that song reckoner?

tarkus1980: I don't get it. I don't have a deep emotional connection to Radiohead at all, and I don't think they're among the absolute greatest bands of all time, but I can't comprehend a music-judging rubric that would consider them anywhere near a bad band or their music anywhere near bad music.

/has never gotten the "excessively difficult" argument against Kid A

They've been far too commercailly and critically successful for far too long, so it's fashionable to dislike them now.

Not that it's not fashionable to like them, it's just that it's MORE fashionable to not like them.

Like.

I like radiohead, I just don't like their rabid, pompus fans.

Paging Valdes to the thread. Paging Valdes.

Yeah, whatever.
From the same article "16 Rock Myths Debunked" granted with a different writer, comes this.
MYTH No. 3: Lady Gaga Is All Style, No Substance
REALITY: Lady Gaga's bizarre getups only distract from the fact that she's a brilliant songwriter. (new window)

SPIN:
Lady gaga = good
Radiohead = bad

xgnu: I like radiohead, I just don't like their rabid, pompus fans.

I've spent a lot of time with a lot of folks who feel very passionately about music and I don't think I've ever met a "rabid, pompous fan" of Radiohead. I've even been to a couple of Radiohead shows. Maybe it's just the company I keep, but most folks I know either think Radiohead is a pretty decent band (like myself, for example), or just never got into them (like my wife, for example). Fark is the only place I have ever seen a truly strong emotion expressed about Radiohead, and that emotion is almost exclusively anger and hatred. It seems to me that they only have rabid, pompous anti-fans.

Glitchwerks: Paging Valdes to the thread. Paging Valdes.

Valdes is still in mourning over Aerosmith's heart wrenching break up. I heard he threw away all of his chain wallets, bandannas and black gym shoes. He may never say "FU*K AN A" again. Poor little guy.

Radiohead is mostly masturbatory. And before you tell me it's "obviously too challenging" for my simple tastes, allow me to direct you toward the 5UU's and Thinking Plague.

I Like Bread: Radiohead is mostly masturbatory.

Please explain how Radiohead is "masturbatory" but the vast majority of the music industry is not.

Because I think you're throwing words out there without thinking.

Nickelback is still better.

Lionel Mandrake: I don't think they blow, but I never got the hype. Same with Oasis. Ditto Coldplay.

This.

I Like Bread: Radiohead is mostly masturbatory. And before you tell me it's "obviously too challenging" for my simple tastes, allow me to direct you toward the 5UU's and Thinking Plague.

I once had a coworker tell me I was too young to understand OK Computer. I was 23 at the time.

Also, In Extremis is probably one of my top twenty favourite albums of the 90's. They should have created a whole new Grammy category just so Les Etudes D'Organism could win one.

Summary of story:

Why can't Radiohead fit into a cookie cutter mold like so many other bands do? And while they are at it, why don't they play all their old favorite songs at concerts instead of bothering us with new material? I'm gonna go back to U2 where I know they won't evolve into something unfamiliar that will make me uncomfortable.

forkandspoon2008: How can you not like that song reckoner?

You know, I'm not a fan of radiohead, but reckoner is like the best song ever.

I don't think I've even listened to Amnesiac or Hail to the Thief all the way through since the day I got them. I'm not a big fan of their later work, but I appreciate that they feel the need to try new things. They could easily be putting out The Bends year after year - but that would put Muse out of work and we don't want that.

I like SOME of Radiohead's songs, but I don't really "get" them. I think the main problem is that RH are overhyped to the point that they could make an album of moose mating calls and all the music rags would trip over themselves to give it 10/10 stars and call them "genuises".

Yes RH do "avant-guarde" music, but Can, Brian Eno and Cabaret Voltaire did it first (and better).

HI-FYE: Yeah, whatever.
From the same article "16 Rock Myths Debunked" granted with a different writer, comes this.
MYTH No. 3: Lady Gaga Is All Style, No Substance
REALITY: Lady Gaga's bizarre getups only distract from the fact that she's a brilliant songwriter. (new window)

SPIN:
Lady gaga = good
Radiohead = bad

Lady Gaga IS pretty good, plus she has these which would go really nice with my disco stick -



/seriously, her lips in the paparazzi video- i wanna suck on them.

damn...misspelled "geniuses"

derp de derp derp

Cuthbert Allgood: HI-FYE: Yeah, whatever.
From the same article "16 Rock Myths Debunked" granted with a different writer, comes this.
MYTH No. 3: Lady Gaga Is All Style, No Substance
REALITY: Lady Gaga's bizarre getups only distract from the fact that she's a brilliant songwriter. (new window)

SPIN:
Lady gaga = good
Radiohead = bad

Lady Gaga IS pretty good, plus she has these which would go really nice with my disco stick -

/seriously, her lips in the paparazzi video- i wanna suck on them.


She is boring compared to her artistic outfits. It's just the same old dance music with uninspired lyrics. Bjork should tear off Lady Gaga's limbs and beat her to death with them.


/...and make a song out of it.

I'm listening to Kid A right now, so I'm getting a kick...

Cuthbert Allgood: /seriously, her lips in the paparazzi video- i wanna suck on them.

Well, I hear she has something else you can suck on. She has a "disco stick" too.

/Ba dum tish.

Tantrum: xgnu: I like radiohead, I just don't like their rabid, pompus fans.

I've spent a lot of time with a lot of folks who feel very passionately about music and I don't think I've ever met a "rabid, pompous fan" of Radiohead. I've even been to a couple of Radiohead shows. Maybe it's just the company I keep, but most folks I know either think Radiohead is a pretty decent band (like myself, for example), or just never got into them (like my wife, for example). Fark is the only place I have ever seen a truly strong emotion expressed about Radiohead, and that emotion is almost exclusively anger and hatred. It seems to me that they only have rabid, pompous anti-fans.

Pompus fans? It's more likely than you think.

Gangway Fathead: I don't think I've even listened to Amnesiac or Hail to the Thief all the way through since the day I got them. I'm not a big fan of their later work, but I appreciate that they feel the need to try new things. They could easily be putting out The Bends year after year - but that would put Muse out of work and we don't want that.

Speak for yourself

kiteless: She is boring compared to her artistic outfits. It's just the same old dance music with uninspired lyrics. Bjork should tear off Lady Gaga's limbs and beat her to death with them.


/...and make a song out of it.

Bjork is teh awesome and no doubt she could make a damn good song from the sounds of ripping and tearing flesh. It's early in Gaga's career and she has talent, I wouldn't be surprised to see her take her music in a direction more fitting for her artistic style.

Regardless of whether or not one likes radiohead, they have to be given huge credit for continuously pushing their and our limits. They are artists and it's great to see bands being so innovative.

Gangway Fathead: They could easily be putting out The Bends year after year - but that would put Muse out of work and we don't want that.

Seeing as half of The Bends is pretty mediocre, I wouldn't want that either.

xgnu: Tantrum: xgnu: I like radiohead, I just don't like their rabid, pompus fans.

I've spent a lot of time with a lot of folks who feel very passionately about music and I don't think I've ever met a "rabid, pompous fan" of Radiohead. I've even been to a couple of Radiohead shows. Maybe it's just the company I keep, but most folks I know either think Radiohead is a pretty decent band (like myself, for example), or just never got into them (like my wife, for example). Fark is the only place I have ever seen a truly strong emotion expressed about Radiohead, and that emotion is almost exclusively anger and hatred. It seems to me that they only have rabid, pompous anti-fans.

Pompus fans? It's more likely than you think.

Nothing pompous about that. I'm just saying that I might not be exposed to the rabid, pompous fans for various demographic, or geographic reasons. I mostly hang out with hardcore kids or the experimental metal crowd in Seattle. There's not a whole lot of Radiohead discussion in those circles, but I don't personally know of anybody who feels too strongly either way about them. Generally, they seem to be well respected and accepted as alright musicians. Even the more indie rock-minded friends of mine are pretty ambivalent about Radiohead. I know some pretty judgmental people when it comes to music, and yet I have never seen anything near the fervor that is created in a typical Radiohead thread in the Fark music tab.

Just throwing this out there. Radiohead is one of the greatest bands of all time. I know it's not cool to like them anymore on fark but the fact remains. They're considered one of the greatest bands of all time.

When the hipster hate brigade came for the Beatles I did not speak, for the Beatles are my parent's band to defend.
And when the hipster hate brigade came for Nirvana I did not speak because I thought the band's work would speak for itself.
And now the hipster hate brigade has come for Radiohead and I say....YOU SHALL NOT PASS.

/Seriously Spin, defending Lady Gaga, bashing Radiohead? Wow edgy.

Sybarite: You know what's great? You can listen only to the Radiohead you like or, alternatively, not listen at all.

So much this. I'm going to save this in notepad to reuse for all Fark music and movie threads if you don't mind. So much whargarbl could be avoided if people would just say "I don't like them" or "I like them" instead of going off on inflammatory screeds.

/I admit that I still enjoy reading creative whargarbl on occasion

I remember when SPIN used to be cool.

Radiohead is an amazing band. 'Nuf said.

Tantrum: xgnu: Tantrum: xgnu: I like radiohead, I just don't like their rabid, pompus fans.

I've spent a lot of time with a lot of folks who feel very passionately about music and I don't think I've ever met a "rabid, pompous fan" of Radiohead. I've even been to a couple of Radiohead shows. Maybe it's just the company I keep, but most folks I know either think Radiohead is a pretty decent band (like myself, for example), or just never got into them (like my wife, for example). Fark is the only place I have ever seen a truly strong emotion expressed about Radiohead, and that emotion is almost exclusively anger and hatred. It seems to me that they only have rabid, pompous anti-fans.

Pompus fans? It's more likely than you think.

Nothing pompous about that. I'm just saying that I might not be exposed to the rabid, pompous fans for various demographic, or geographic reasons. I mostly hang out with hardcore kids or the experimental metal crowd in Seattle. There's not a whole lot of Radiohead discussion in those circles, but I don't personally know of anybody who feels too strongly either way about them. Generally, they seem to be well respected and accepted as alright musicians. Even the more indie rock-minded friends of mine are pretty ambivalent about Radiohead. I know some pretty judgmental people when it comes to music, and yet I have never seen anything near the fervor that is created in a typical Radiohead thread in the Fark music tab.

ok, I concede. Your point is taken. I have met a few however, and they were completely un-farking-bearable.

They missed the one about Spin magazine having credibility. C'mon, Lady Gaga, one of the best albums of 2009?

I have friends tell me I just don't 'get' Lady Gaga. Its the same people who told me Creed rocked and now deny ever liking them. But I've seen the CD's and the ticket stubs, I know your shame!

"It's early in Gaga's career and she has talent, I wouldn't be surprised to see her take her music in a direction more fitting for her artistic style."

I think the Spice Girls are hiring.

Lando Lincoln: I Like Bread: Radiohead is mostly masturbatory.

Please explain how Radiohead is "masturbatory" but the vast majority of the music industry is not.

Because I think you're throwing words out there without thinking.

Who said most music wasn't masturbatory? It's one thing to do what everyone else is doing. It's another thing to pretend you're above it WHILE you're doing it. Radiohead isn't the only pseudo-prog game in town. In fact, the fact that they're so popular probably speaks to how they're more conventional, poppier and safer than others of their kind.

Eh, who cares about Spin anymore. It went downhill after it was sold and a former Blender editor was put in charge.

ryderdm3: Nickelback is still better.

At sucking.

Lando Lincoln: I like Radiohead a lot, but I can also understand why others may not like them. They're less about music and more about audio art experimentation. That's not everyone's cup of tea.

I vehemently disagree. I am deeply into audio experimentation. These guys have always just struck me as crap music.