Quantum events aren't random.

Yeah... lemme know when it can run Zork.



/had a colleague who worked on quantum computing for many years and he still wondered if it would end up going nowhere like cold fusion... glad to see it working out

No, this processor will not be able to give true random any more than current processors do. Which they don't.

syrynxx: Quantum events aren't random.

Random is as random doesn't.

Right.

What's a qubit?

RustNeverSleeps: Right.

What's a qubit?

quantum bit, as stated in the article.

RustNeverSleeps: What's a qubit?

Didn't you ever read the Bible? It's a measure of gopherwood.

At some point, I have to throw up my hands and realize I'm never going to get how something works. I theoretically get how transistors work, even if it's hard to visualize an npn gate doing it's thing. But I'll be damned if qubits aren't indistinguishable from magic.

But alright. Go science.

But will it load my porno faster, and let Me add more sparkly stuff on my MySpace page?

Was the thing about qubits that they have four distinguishable states, or that they could hold more than one state at a time?

Or both?

I love when new physics students confuse unknown/unable to evaluate with "random". Something can be definite without it being able to be measured.

TheJoeY: Was the thing about qubits that they have four distinguishable states, or that they could hold more than one state at a time?

Or both?

my understanding is that the feline is both alive and dead.

syrynxx: Quantum events aren't random.

probably not anyway

Actually - if it runs on the cesium-point setup, it CAN run true random numbers. It wouldn't be dependent on a clock to initiate the integer string, it would be able to 'float' two (or more) gates into a n/and loop - the core of creating truly random numbers.

yogaFLAME: But I'll be damned if qubits aren't indistinguishable from magic.

But alright. Go science.


/One for everything
//Goal is to hit each and every Geek link on Fark today

A new system uses an entangled two-qubit quantum gate alongside a single-qubit gate to create a quantum computer that can perform virtually any operation.

That was my idea! Damnit! I should have patented it.

/I don't pretend to know what any of that means

SeamusFerrell:
That was my idea! Damnit! I should have patented it.

/I don't pretend to know what any of that means


Microsoft employee?

because some ones going to ask... no, it cant play crysis.

another-farker: because some ones going to ask... no, it cant play crysis.

you need 3 qubits for that

RustNeverSleeps: Right.

What's a qubit?

RustNeverSleeps: Right.

What's a qubit?

Never mind that. I want you to build an ark.

There is a massive proof that shows how true AI can never be accomplished with binary computing.

With Quantum Computing, AI is now possible as it requires at least 3 options. Don't ask me why, my professor's proof on this makes total logical sense, but I was barely able to remember it a week after, and it's been 4 years.

hetheeme: There is a massive proof that shows how true AI can never be accomplished with binary computing.

With Quantum Computing, AI is now possible as it requires at least 3 options. Don't ask me why, my professor's proof on this makes total logical sense, but I was barely able to remember it a week after, and it's been 4 years.

There you have it. No further research needed.

/I admitted I did not even understand the introduction to the article

Didn't know it when I came in, but I apparently came for Bill Cosby references. Leaving unexpectedly satisfied.

hetheeme: There is a massive proof that shows how true AI can never be accomplished with binary computing.

With Quantum Computing, AI is now possible as it requires at least 3 options. Don't ask me why, my professor's proof on this makes total logical sense, but I was barely able to remember it a week after, and it's been 4 years.

That brings to mind the question... how many states can a neuron be in?

TheJoeY:
That brings to mind the question... how many states can a neuron be in?

50?

The All-Powerful Atheismo: TheJoeY:
That brings to mind the question... how many states can a neuron be in?

50?

Not if it's a contiguous neuron

TheShavingofOccam123: The All-Powerful Atheismo: TheJoeY:
That brings to mind the question... how many states can a neuron be in?

50?

Not if it's a contiguous neuron

I should have said 49. I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missourah

The All-Powerful Atheismo: TheJoeY:
That brings to mind the question... how many states can a neuron be in?

50?

No, no, it's 57.

TheJoeY: That brings to mind the question... how many states can a neuron be in?

Well, short answer: 2. An action potential is a binary event.

Long answer: twoooooooooooooooooo. Annnnnnnnnnnn accccctionnnnn...

non-dickhole answer: the information a neuron conveys depends on how rapidly it fires, and whether the business end of it is excitatory or inhibitory. So the information in one could be represented by a binary value (excitatory/inhibitory) and an analog state (rate), or just a signed analog. Of course when you start looking at networks of them, this representation is insufficient because they're hardly hooked up in series.

SeamusFerrell: hetheeme: There is a massive proof that shows how true AI can never be accomplished with binary computing.

With Quantum Computing, AI is now possible as it requires at least 3 options. Don't ask me why, my professor's proof on this makes total logical sense, but I was barely able to remember it a week after, and it's been 4 years.

There you have it. No further research needed.

/I admitted I did not even understand the introduction to the article

yeah yeah, It's been 4 years, it was a class I took on a lark, and it's 2AM and I don't feel like looking up the proof of true AI needing more than 2 options to actually work.

But from what I understand, Quantum computing take traditional 0,1 computing and goes to 0,1,2,3,4,5 possibly up to 31

Wasn't this a repeat from tomorrow? I'm 56% certain of it.

Article gave me a headache. Not sure why I came here looking for boobies.

gopher321: "Scientists create the first programmable quantum processor"

Or did they?

Maybe- can really say true or false.

So, if I download porn onto my quantum computer, does the uncertainty princple
mean that there is a chance (no matter how miniscule) that when I press 'play'
Carmella Bing will materialize in front of me wearing nothing but baby oil
and a smile?



I love computer science!

hetheeme: yeah yeah, It's been 4 years, it was a class I took on a lark, and it's 2AM and I don't feel like looking up the proof of true AI needing more than 2 options to actually work.

But from what I understand, Quantum computing take traditional 0,1 computing and goes to 0,1,2,3,4,5 possibly up to 31

So your professor was claiming that he knew how to develop AI so well that he could tell you how many possible states the information storage necessary would require? Or are some shenanigans being pulled with the term "true AI"?

/genuinely interested
//could see how manufacturing a human-equivalent AI would be unfeasible with binary computation, but that's just speculation

DjangoStonereaver: So, if I download porn onto my quantum computer, does the uncertainty princple
mean that there is a chance (no matter how miniscule) that when I press 'play'
Carmella Bing will materialize in front of me wearing nothing but baby oil
and a smile?

It means that, if she does appear and you find the proper position, you will still be clueless as to the momentum.

So, imagine you have two bits, A and B, and you run them through an OR gate.
so
|A,B> in {|1,0>,|0,1>,|1,1>}
gives 1 at the output
and
|A,B> = |0,0>
gives 0 at the output.

This works in a pretty simple and logical way with binary gates.
BUT, if A and B are qubits, then they're mixtures of 0 and 1.

So if
|A> = (1/2)|0> + (1/2)|1>
and
|B> = (1/2)|0> + (1/2)|1>
(the simple case)
then running A and B through a quantum OR gate gives the output a
3/4 probability of begin 1, and 1/4 of being 0.

As a note, building a quantum OR gate is much more difficult than it sounds. Much MUCH more difficult. There's lots of cool lasers and liquid helium involved.

hetheeme: There is a massive proof that shows how true AI can never be accomplished with binary computing.

With Quantum Computing, AI is now possible as it requires at least 3 options. Don't ask me why, my professor's proof on this makes total logical sense, but I was barely able to remember it a week after, and it's been 4 years.

Quantum computers do not work that way, neither does AI, and there's no such as "true AI".
The only real advantage quantum computers have is that they can perform certain calculations much faster, namely integer factorization, which would allow them to crack a lot of commonly used encryption algorithms.

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Pheonixus: As a note, building a quantum OR gate is much more difficult than it sounds. Much MUCH more difficult. There's lots of cool lasers and liquid helium involved.

Kinda like sex with subby's mom.

yarnothuntin:
Kinda like sex with subby's mom

No, that's easy.
It's just wave mechanics...

Maybe we ought to hook up this new quantum computer to run that new hadron collider they just built and see what happens. Just for yuks.

gopher321: Maybe we ought to hook up this new quantum computer to run that new hadron collider they just built and see what happens. Just for yuks.

The Improbability drive, perhaps?

/Cosby, Q-bert, and Hitchhiker references in one thread?
//This could be a pretty cool (albeit geeky) day...

Great, another way for technology to kill cats.