As a Raiders fan all I can say is....It's a start

This will make Rush Limbaugh very happy.

For good? ORLY?

Gradkowski is worse than Russel...

And why not? Cable was probably going to get fired "for cause" anyway. It's not like Davis can do anything worse to him.

Actually, that's not true. Cable's real punishment would be to continue coaching the team. They deserve each other.

Damn.

/chargers fan

Nuke the entire team from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

It's about farking time! The Raiders need to cut JaFatass this next offseason and draft a QB that can actually play.

/just say NO to Tebow

netweavr: Gradkowski is worse than Russel...

Russell set the bar pretty damned low. He might be better skill-wise, but he let things like work ethic, decision-making and his belly get in the way.

mjoven1975: just say NO to Tebow

Haha, you're getting Football Jesus. The sucky model too.

C'mon Al! Let's see some of that draft magic!

There is a God!

Mentat

Strong Side Weak Side

And yet he managed to march the Raiders down the field for a game winning TD against the Chiefs.

/total fluke
//Heyward-Bey needs to join Russell on the bench

mjoven1975: And yet he managed to march the Raiders down the field for a game winning TD against the Chiefs.

Name one team that hasn't done that over the past 4 years.

Mentat: mjoven1975: And yet he managed to march the Raiders down the field for a game winning TD against the Chiefs.

Name one team that hasn't done that over the past 4 years.

That's beside the point. The other 30 teams all have quarterbacks who can throw the ball within 20 yards of its intended target. Letting the 21st century version of Ryan Leaf beat you in a two minute drill is indefensible.

davidphogan: Damn.

/chargers fan

QFT

mjoven1975: Mentat: mjoven1975: And yet he managed to march the Raiders down the field for a game winning TD against the Chiefs.

Name one team that hasn't done that over the past 4 years.

That's beside the point. The other 30 teams all have quarterbacks who can throw the ball within 20 yards of its intended target. Letting the 21st century version of Ryan Leaf beat you in a two minute drill is indefensible.

We destroyed Ryan Leaf's career. Pick a different insult.

Mentat: We Ryan Leaf biatching, moaning, and throwing tantrums like a retarded twatwaffle, then taking it out on the press when they covered it, destroyed Ryan Leaf's career.

Mentat: mjoven1975: Mentat: mjoven1975: And yet he managed to march the Raiders down the field for a game winning TD against the Chiefs.

Name one team that hasn't done that over the past 4 years.

That's beside the point. The other 30 teams all have quarterbacks who can throw the ball within 20 yards of its intended target. Letting the 21st century version of Ryan Leaf beat you in a two minute drill is indefensible.

We destroyed Ryan Leaf's career. Pick a different insult.

Why would I need to pick a different insult? The Chiefs let JaMarcus freaking Russell march down the field in their own house and beat them. End of story!

BKITU: Mentat: We Ryan Leaf biatching, moaning, and throwing tantrums like a retarded twatwaffle, then taking it out on the press when they covered it, destroyed Ryan Leaf's career.

KNOCK IT OFF

Defending Russell's play should be illegal.

Jamarcus Russell SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS....

I said it when he was at LSU, I said it when the draft beeyotches were coddling his jock...he's horrible.

Now, this guy is gonna make serious bank while holding the clipboard.

Good job Raiders.

/Also thinks Matt Stafford is next in line for 'bust of the year'
//doesn't help him that he's playing for Detroit

Well isn't that a punch in the mouth.

Booo, this means we don't get any more hilarious "Jamarcus Watch" updates in the Sunday threads.

ihatedumbpeople: /Also thinks Matt Stafford is next in line for 'bust of the year'
//doesn't help him that he's playing for Detroit

Disagree. By all accounts Stafford has a good head on his shoulders, which I think counts for more than raw physical ability. He's not going to be the next Peyton, granted, but he'll be a serviceable QB for a while. Perhaps because he's not as physically gifted as someone like Russel, he knows that he has to work hard and be a leader to make up for it.

He looks bad now because he and Calvin Johnson have more than half the talent on the team between them, and they're both playing on bum knees.

Great, now who am I supposed to start this weekend in FF? Trent Edwards or Chris Simms?

Mentat: mjoven1975: Mentat: mjoven1975: And yet he managed to march the Raiders down the field for a game winning TD against the Chiefs.

Name one team that hasn't done that over the past 4 years.

That's beside the point. The other 30 teams all have quarterbacks who can throw the ball within 20 yards of its intended target. Letting the 21st century version of Ryan Leaf beat you in a two minute drill is indefensible.

We destroyed Ryan Leaf's career. Pick a different insult.

True. The Chiefs ended Leaf's career. False. Leaf played in the last 4 years.

The D that destroyed Leaf would have killed Russel. Sadly, nobody has seen hide nor tail from that D in about 10 years.

/Chiefs fan
//Loved the leaf game @ arrowhead
///New the chiefs left too much time on the clock for JaRus in KC
////Cried a little bit typing that last line

taylonr: Mentat: mjoven1975: Mentat: mjoven1975: And yet he managed to march the Raiders down the field for a game winning TD against the Chiefs.

Name one team that hasn't done that over the past 4 years.

That's beside the point. The other 30 teams all have quarterbacks who can throw the ball within 20 yards of its intended target. Letting the 21st century version of Ryan Leaf beat you in a two minute drill is indefensible.

We destroyed Ryan Leaf's career. Pick a different insult.

True. The Chiefs ended Leaf's career. False. Leaf played in the last 4 years.

The D that destroyed Leaf would have killed Russel. Sadly, nobody has seen hide nor tail from that D in about 10 years.

/Chiefs fan
//Loved the leaf game @ arrowhead
///New Knew the chiefs left too much time on the clock for JaRus in KC
////Cried a little bit typing that last line

FTFM

dumbandilikeit: Nuke the entire team from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

I can't believe you would say such a thing in a post 9/11 world...You are no longer welcome at McAfee Coliseum.

BKITU: Mentat: We Ryan Leaf biatching, moaning, and throwing tantrums like a retarded twatwaffle, then taking it out on the press when they covered it, destroyed Ryan Leaf's career.

howdyyall9999: Great, now who am I supposed to start this weekend in FF? Trent Edwards or Chris Simms?

Derek Anderson unavailable?

/Quinn's not much better

"Jamarcus Russell is the best quarterback I've ever seen."
--Stevie Wonder

Why dont they sign a vet and try to salvage a bit of this season. Contrary to popular belief, more players than just the QB need experience. Get a vet QB in there, and play out the season, while developing that rushing attack and the younger receivers. DO SOMETHING POSITIVE!

"I don't think Sean Payton turned down the job because Sean Payton was never offered the job. Sean Payton has a lot of good credentials, but I don't know if that's the direction we're going."

Long live Al Davis! Now go blow $40 mil on a QB for the 2nd time in 3 years...

BKITU: Mentat: We Ryan Leaf biatching, moaning, and throwing tantrums like a retarded twatwaffle, then taking it out on the press when they covered it, destroyed Ryan Leaf's career.

Wrong. Ryan Leaf had played well up until the Chiefs game. Going into that game, he made a comment about how Arrowhead was overrated and didn't compare to college stadiums. The fans taught him otherwise. He was absolutely destroyed by the Chiefs D, he had something like 1-15 for 15 yards in the first half before being pulled. It completely shattered his confidence and led to the lockerroom blow-up at the San Diego reporter.

Leaf is our kill.

I for one, will be pleased to see how Jeff Garcia-Lite does.

I guarantee Al Davis made this decision then made Tom Cable make the announcement.

In other news, Al Davis holds Tom Cable's junk while he takes a piss. It's a puppet regime.

The question is: will they learn from their mistake, or will they continue to be fascinated by draft prospects' raw tools and draft Jake "Jamarcus II" Locker?

Super Chronic: The question is: will they learn from their mistake, or will they continue to be fascinated by draft prospects' raw tools and draft Jake "Jamarcus II" Locker?

Me thinks they should forget about QB for now and work on the OLine a bit and also plug up the porous run D.

Make a deal for someone serviceable playing backup somewhere. Kitna comes to mind.

Jubeebee: Booo, this means we don't get any more hilarious "Jamarcus Watch" updates in the Sunday threads.

ihatedumbpeople: /Also thinks Matt Stafford is next in line for 'bust of the year'
//doesn't help him that he's playing for Detroit

Disagree. By all accounts Stafford has a good head on his shoulders, which I think counts for more than raw physical ability. He's not going to be the next Peyton, granted, but he'll be a serviceable QB for a while. Perhaps because he's not as physically gifted as someone like Russel, he knows that he has to work hard and be a leader to make up for it.

He looks bad now because he and Calvin Johnson have more than half the talent on the team between them, and they're both playing on bum knees.

You thinking David Carr serviceable or Joey Harrington serviceable? ;-) That's what I see in his future...a solid #2-3 on some team...Harrington is out of the league now and I think Carr is still backing up Manning's backup or something.

InferiousX: Super Chronic: The question is: will they learn from their mistake, or will they continue to be fascinated by draft prospects' raw tools and draft Jake "Jamarcus II" Locker?

Me thinks they should forget about QB for now and work on the OLine a bit and also plug up the porous run D.

Make a deal for someone serviceable playing backup somewhere. Kitna comes to mind.

Can't say I disagree. Russell Okung looks like a great prospect and the Raiders might be in a position to take him (they'll need to be in the 3-5 range, I think). Charles Brown of USC may yet pull off a Jason Smith-like climb on draft boards as well. (Just say no to Trent Williams, according to a recent piece by KC Joyner.)

Mentat: It completely shattered his confidence and led to the lockerroom blow-up at the San Diego reporter.

Leaf is our kill.

That wasn't his first blow-up; it was just the most heavily-publicized. He had already built a reputation for being a whiny hot-head.

You may have got the killshot, but it was the coup de grace on a guy who was already standing on the edge of the grave with both feet on Crisco-slathered banana peels.

This is disappointing. I gave JaMarcus a 50-50 shot at being the first QB to hit the scoreboard at the Death Star this Thanksgiving against the Boys.

BKITU: Mentat: It completely shattered his confidence and led to the lockerroom blow-up at the San Diego reporter.

Leaf is our kill.

That wasn't his first blow-up; it was just the most heavily-publicized. He had already built a reputation for being a whiny hot-head.

You may have got the killshot, but it was the coup de grace on a guy who was already standing on the edge of the grave with both feet on Crisco-slathered banana peels.

Leaf and Russel are two perfect examples of why draft projections suck. They weight senior stats far too heavily, look too much at the guy's raw abilities (not game abilities) and build, and fail to short prima donnas (Leaf), morons (Russel, Vince Young) and other head cases (Kyle Boller, too ADD or mentally rushed to be a top-echelon QB).

I'll revise what I said in a thread the other day - as a GM, I'd trade down from a top-15 spot every time. You save tons of cash and have about an equal shot at success.

I'm just glad they waited until after the Chiefs' rematch to bench him. The Chiefs could have been 0-6 in the division if it happened a few weeks ago.

howdyyall9999: Great, now who am I supposed to start this weekend in FF? Trent Edwards or Chris Simms?

Wow. I want to be in your league.

Dr Dreidel: BKITU: Mentat: It completely shattered his confidence and led to the lockerroom blow-up at the San Diego reporter.

Leaf is our kill.

That wasn't his first blow-up; it was just the most heavily-publicized. He had already built a reputation for being a whiny hot-head.

You may have got the killshot, but it was the coup de grace on a guy who was already standing on the edge of the grave with both feet on Crisco-slathered banana peels.

Leaf and Russel are two perfect examples of why draft projections suck. They weight senior stats far too heavily, look too much at the guy's raw abilities (not game abilities) and build, and fail to short prima donnas (Leaf), morons (Russel, Vince Young) and other head cases (Kyle Boller, too ADD or mentally rushed to be a top-echelon QB).

I'll revise what I said in a thread the other day - as a GM, I'd trade down from a top-15 spot every time. You save tons of cash and have about an equal shot at success.

Plus, in the second half of the round, you'll still be able to get some top OL/DL guys.

Whatever QB in the draft has the strongest arm is in danger of becoming a Raider.

/I will miss reading JaBlackass's stat line every Sunday night.

GimpyNip: Whatever QB in the draft has the strongest arm is in danger of becoming a Raider.

/I will miss reading JaBlackass's stat line every Sunday night.

let it be tebow, and let it be a mess. Even God cant save the Raiders.