No possible way this could be an error on the stimulus website.

My guess is that John Perzel sent bonuses campaign resources there reflexively.

JusticeandIndependence: No possible way this could be an error on the stimulus website.

Of course not. That part of the page they cite is deadly accurate of course, but the same page showing thousands of jobs in the real districts is not to be believed.

Lionel Mandrake: Of course not. That part of the page they cite is deadly accurate of course, but the same page showing thousands of jobs in the real districts is not to be believed.

Hell, I heard that Pennsylvania doesn't even exist.

My guess is that John Perzel Mike Veon sent bonuses campaign resources there reflexively.

fixed

I think that's what they call "walking around money" in Harrisburg.

Yeah, I did some programming last year updating our database of Congressional districts (for a map product we sell to the military). The database had 19 districts that didn't exist. So I fixed it up and added a couple verification checks to make sure no invalid one could be entered from the user side. I'm guessing some junior programmer at whatever agency is doing recovery.gov failed to do so.

albo: fixed

You say po-TAY-to; I say send them all to jail.

I don't get it. The stimulus helped states balance budgets, it helped pay for COBRA, it enacted one- if not the- biggest single-year tax cut in American history... but if it can't be traced directly to creating a job, OH TEH NOES!!1! And especially with these "GOTCHA!" farking juvenile attacks.

I've got a relative who got a stimulus job. Know what she's doing? She's working for the Virginia Employment Commission helping OTHER PEOPLE find jobs. So, those jobs she helps other people find aren't technically stimulus jobs, but she wouldn't be there to do it without the stimulus money.

If you want to argue the stimulus was a massive mistake, fine- I can certainly entertain those arguments, and would probably agree with most of them. But just like with health care, I hear a lot of biatching and whargarbl, and very little solid plans. And if your strategy is "ANYTHING OBAMA/THE DEMOCRATS DO IS BAD!!! ACORN! KILL GRANNY!!1!", kill yourself.

Huh. I always thought it was 00st.

madmann: Huh. I always thought it was 00st.

Short for zeroth.

Clicking around a little, EVERY state shows a 00 Congressional district.

I'm wondering if that's not an overhead/statewide/slush number.

Racht: Yeah, I did some programming last year updating our database of Congressional districts (for a map product we sell to the military). The database had 19 districts that didn't exist. So I fixed it up and added a couple verification checks to make sure no invalid one could be entered from the user side. I'm guessing some junior programmer at whatever agency is doing recovery.gov failed to do so.

You'd think that an $18M website would be set up a little better.

PA GOP + = submitter

Biden explained this on TDS yesterday.

Maybe those districts are in John Murtha's backyard and just not listed? It will be an interesting Follow Up to see where that money did go, if anywhere.

Racht: Yeah, I did some programming last year updating our database of Congressional districts (for a map product we sell to the military). The database had 19 districts that didn't exist. So I fixed it up and added a couple verification checks to make sure no invalid one could be entered from the user side. I'm guessing some junior programmer at whatever agency is doing recovery.gov failed to do so.

Git the tinfoil ready, Mildred! They're comin' fer our freedumz!

Stoj: Racht: Yeah, I did some programming last year updating our database of Congressional districts (for a map product we sell to the military). The database had 19 districts that didn't exist. So I fixed it up and added a couple verification checks to make sure no invalid one could be entered from the user side. I'm guessing some junior programmer at whatever agency is doing recovery.gov failed to do so.

You'd think that an $18M website would be set up a little better.

This, I really don't get how government officials at all levels and of all political stripes seem to have so much problem with these InterTube thingys.

ragekage: I don't get it. The stimulus helped states balance budgets, it helped pay for COBRA, it enacted one- if not the- biggest single-year tax cut in American history... but if it can't be traced directly to creating a job, OH TEH NOES!!1! And especially with these "GOTCHA!" farking juvenile attacks.

I've got a relative who got a stimulus job. Know what she's doing? She's working for the Virginia Employment Commission helping OTHER PEOPLE find jobs. So, those jobs she helps other people find aren't technically stimulus jobs, but she wouldn't be there to do it without the stimulus money.

If you want to argue the stimulus was a massive mistake, fine- I can certainly entertain those arguments, and would probably agree with most of them. But just like with health care, I hear a lot of biatching and whargarbl, and very little solid plans. And if your strategy is "ANYTHING OBAMA/THE DEMOCRATS DO IS BAD!!! ACORN! KILL GRANNY!!1!", kill yourself.

This.

The opposition party here does nothing but go after the lowest hanging fruit possible, and can't even be bothered to look into the stimulus package in enough detail to find valid criticisms. Which, if the package is 1/10th as bad as the whargarble suggests, should be a pretty easy task.

Odd that these "errors" seem to always inflate the number of jobs created etc.

ragekage: I don't get it. The stimulus helped states balance budgets, it helped pay for COBRA, it enacted one- if not the- biggest single-year tax cut in American history...

You fell for the most amazing talking point BS. $30 a month. Really? The biggest tax cut ever?

Bush's tax cut net me about $200 a month.

ragekage: This, I really don't get how government officials at all levels and of all political stripes seem to have so much problem with these InterTube thingys.

Nepotism maybe?

this is our government at work. pissin on our shoes and telling us it's raining.


let's let them control our healthcare!!!

That loot was intentionally set aside for the Pierogi Reserve Fund in case we run out.

Dusk-You-n-Me: Biden explained this on TDS yesterday.

Plus he had a bullet-proof shield that looked like a blue gym mat!

JusticeandIndependence: No possible way this could be an error on the stimulus website.

Apparently it's a bit more complicated than that.

ragekage: This, I really don't get how government officials at all levels and of all political stripes seem to have so much problem with these InterTube thingys.

Because they're old, because our Constitution and other election laws place ridiculous minimum ages on positions.

colon_pow: let's let them control our healthcare!!!

Keep repeating this lie. We're all proud of you.

Dear Pennsylvania,



Love,

The Obama Administration.

Over-Zealous Staffer I'm sure.

Badfrog: ragekage: I don't get it. The stimulus helped states balance budgets, it helped pay for COBRA, it enacted one- if not the- biggest single-year tax cut in American history...

You fell for the most amazing talking point BS. $30 a month. Really? The biggest tax cut ever?

Bush's tax cut net me about $200 a month.

Damn, dude, I'm sorry. Here I was listening to the CBO and talking about the total impact of a tax cut by dollar amount, and some dude on a Fark forum told me Bush's tax cut net him a coupla hundred a month. What was I thinking? Christ Almighty, now I'm no better than 3 Butt Cheeks.

Someone's getting fired.

The premise behind the recovery.gov website is that the stimulus recipients are supposed to enter their data.

Obviously the website is missing basic sanity checks on its input forms.

Quick Question Farkers: How many of you know your congressional district (with out looking it up)?

amazing_live_seamonkeys: Odd that these "errors" seem to always inflate the number of jobs created etc.

If a job was lost, it wasn't due to the stimulus. Didn't you get the memo? All negative events result from Bush administration policies or matters beyond the power of the administration. All positive events were caused after 1/20/09. Get with the program. If a staffer had tried to plug in "-2 jobs in NE District 2" the entire internet would come to a crashing halt. It's like dividing by zero or something.

HairBolus: How many of you know your congressional district (with out looking it up)?

I do!

/contrary to recovery.gov, we only have 2.

ragekage: You'd think that an $18M website would be set up a little better.

This, I really don't get how government officials at all levels and of all political stripes seem to have so much problem with these InterTube thingys.


That's an easy one. Bureaucracy is almost always inefficient in almost everything they do, it's simply the nature of the beast. This is one of the reasons I favor smaller government.

HairBolus: Quick Question Farkers: How many of you know your congressional district (with out looking it up)?

If it was my job to know which money goes to which district, I would know the districts.. because it would be my job

colon_pow: this is our government at work. pissin on our shoes and telling us it's raining.


let's let them control our healthcare!!!

Actually they're not going to control "healthcare" but offer a health insurance policy. And people like you vacillate wildly between "OMG They will kill private insurance" and "The government is incompetent and can't do anything". It's not exactly helping your argument.

MugzyBrown: If it was my job to know which money goes to which district, I would know the districts.. because it would be my job

It is the stimulus recipients who are reporting the data, not who ever decided who they would be.

HairBolus: It is the stimulus recipients who are reporting the data, not who ever decided who they would be.

And the data just flows automatically from whatever report is completed onto the website.

Magic!

Not only did they invent jobs saved or created, they invented districts for them to be saved or created in! Way to take it to the next level Team Obama.

I'd really appreciate it if a liberal could explain how this type of a mistake on Bush's watch would be excusable, since it is clearly excusable on Obama's watch.

HAHAHA, what a load of shiat.

And we're supposed to believe they'll get their shiat together and run things smoothly when they take over health care?!??

HAHAHAHAHAHA... [breath]... ah-HAHAHAHAHAHA

YoMammaObama: Not only did they invent jobs saved or created, they invented districts for them to be saved or created in! Way to take it to the next level Team Obama.

I'd really appreciate it if a liberal could explain how this type of a mistake on Bush's watch would be excusable, since it is clearly excusable on Obama's watch.

"Context."

ragekage: And if your strategy is "ANYTHING OBAMA/THE DEMOCRATS DO IS BAD!!! ACORN! KILL GRANNY!!1!", kill yourself.

Of course on the other side the libs repsectfully consider all opinions.

mongbiohazard:

That's an easy one. Bureaucracy is almost always inefficient in almost everything they do, it's simply the nature of the beast. This is one of the reasons I favor smaller government.

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Most won't disagree in that bureaucracy is inefficient. That's why we have the government only cover externalities where the free market fails to meet societal needs. It's better to have an inefficiently run school system than to have a private health care-like school system where millions of Americans grow up with no access to school whatsoever. Same goes with police, the postal service, all the various regulatory agencies run by the gov't - and probably health care.

Ball Sack Obama: when they take over health care?!??

You and colon_pow have been sharing notes. Again with the lie. Keep f*cking that chicken.

YoMammaObama: Not only did they invent jobs saved or created, they invented districts for them to be saved or created in! Way to take it to the next level Team Obama.

I'd really appreciate it if a liberal could explain how this type of a mistake on Bush's watch would be excusable, since it is clearly excusable on Obama's watch.

Oh, they'd be demanding investigations, hearings, etc. if this happened with Bush, but don't hold your breath on that. These are "errors" made by staffers or something.

repsectfully

/I had a vowel movement.

ohdoublereally: Of course on the other side the libs repsectfully consider all opinions.

Well if you had any original ideas besides 'anti-whatever-the-Dems-want' maybe we'd listen.

Ball Sack Obama: YoMammaObama: Not only did they invent jobs saved or created, they invented districts for them to be saved or created in! Way to take it to the next level Team Obama.

I'd really appreciate it if a liberal could explain how this type of a mistake on Bush's watch would be excusable, since it is clearly excusable on Obama's watch.

Oh, they'd be demanding investigations, hearings, etc. if this happened with Bush, but don't hold your breath on that. These are "errors" made by staffers or something.

You could say they are "transparent."