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(Telegraph) Interesting New research concludes that lesbian couples make better parents than heterosexual couples. Still no cure for cancer   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 374
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ninjakirby [TotalFark] 2009-11-15 04:23:06 PM  
Isn't new. Homosexual adoptive parents score higher on education, income, age, attentiveness and preparedness than their heterosexual counterparts.

 
Benevolent Misanthrope 2009-11-15 04:56:57 PM  
ninjakirby: Isn't new. Homosexual adoptive parents score higher on education, income, age, attentiveness and preparedness than their heterosexual counterparts.

Obviously, we're a danger to the social institution of family, and to society at large.

 
SoothinglyDeranged [TotalFark] 2009-11-15 05:07:40 PM  
Amazing, people who have to go the extra distance to actually become parents respect it more than people who usually become parents by accident. I am a farking explosion of surprise.

 
soze [TotalFark] 2009-11-15 05:40:14 PM  
SoothinglyDeranged: Amazing, people who have to go the extra distance to actually become parents respect it more than people who usually become parents by accident.

Or perceived social obligation.

"Let's have a baby because that's the next thing on the checklist."

 
Benevolent Misanthrope 2009-11-15 05:50:20 PM  
soze: SoothinglyDeranged: Amazing, people who have to go the extra distance to actually become parents respect it more than people who usually become parents by accident.

Or perceived social obligation.

"Let's have a baby because that's the next thing on the checklist."


Or a desperate bid to manipulate their partner into staying.

"A baby will save our marriage! I know it will!"

 
Farking Canuck 2009-11-15 06:13:18 PM  
Should be a good thread.

All the people who use religion to justify their hate for gays and lesbians should be flipping out over this.

 
INeedAName 2009-11-15 06:13:23 PM  
I think it has to do with choice. Homosexual couples make the choice to have a child, and so prepare themselves for that.

Hetero parents just get all willy nilly drunk and rip the condom, if they used one in the first place.

/Wishes people had to pass a test to have kids

 
Nina_Hartley's_Ass 2009-11-15 06:15:56 PM  
Can't wait for the "Father's Rights" guys to show up.

 
jaytkay [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-11-15 06:16:11 PM  
SoothinglyDeranged: people who have to go the extra distance to actually become parents respect it more than people who usually become parents by accident.

I think that's all that needs to be said.

 
MBK 2009-11-15 06:16:26 PM  
But...but....but! GAYS! CHILDREN! THEY WILL RAPE THEM!!

Because there have NEVER EVER BEEN A HETEROSEXUAL COUPLE that molests kids. Once they molest a kid, they turn gay, meaning a gay molested the kid, not a hetero-full-blooded-American.

Clearly, we must protect the children from the gay.s

 
bgarrett 2009-11-15 06:16:49 PM  
bullshiat
Are you aware of how much lesbians fight and the intensity of their fights?
you can look it up
It will be best to keep kids away

 
TomD9938 [TotalFark] 2009-11-15 06:17:16 PM  
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Can't wait for the "Father's Rights" guys to show up.

TFA illustrates that fathers arent necessary.

Welcome back to 1976.

 
RoyBatty 2009-11-15 06:17:56 PM  
Farking Canuck: Should be a good thread.

All the people who use religion to justify their hate for gays and lesbians should be flipping out over this.


More like a stupid study measuring "regression to the mean".

 
Unsung_Hero 2009-11-15 06:18:53 PM  
I'd like to see a study where they compare lesbian couples to hetero couples that adopt. While I don't doubt that lesbian (or gay) couples can raise a kid as well or better than the average hetero couple, kids do best when they have a male and female role model (who get along), assuming all other things are equal.

I DNRTFA, but the way the submitter presents it, hetero couples are inherently worse parents. Barring a very vigourous proof, I'm not going to accept that.

 
BobDeluxe 2009-11-15 06:19:38 PM  
I call bullshiat.

/bullshiat.

 
The Crack Kid 2009-11-15 06:19:42 PM  
I have a lot of friends on my uni's women's rugby team (hey, sometimes stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason), and I'm going to call anecdotal bullshiat. HOLY CRAP, lesbian relationship fights are a thing of terrifying power and destruction.

 
RoyBatty 2009-11-15 06:20:59 PM  
The Crack Kid: I have a lot of friends on my uni's women's rugby team (hey, sometimes stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason), and I'm going to call anecdotal bullshiat. HOLY CRAP, lesbian relationship fights are a thing of terrifying power and destruction.

What are women made of?
Sugar and spice,
And everything nice,
That's what women are made of.

 
BobDeluxe 2009-11-15 06:21:14 PM  
TomD9938: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Can't wait for the "Father's Rights" guys to show up.

TFA illustrates that fathers arent necessary.

Welcome back to 1976.


TFA is gospel? I can't find a lot of articles that illustrate the need for the father.

"it must be true. It's on the internet"

 
Dear Jerk 2009-11-15 06:21:15 PM  
So there's the gay threat to marriage. Competition.

 
Nick Nostril 2009-11-15 06:21:17 PM  
Well shiat, another thing we've been doing wrong for 10 million years.

/AND... keeps the turkey baster business rolling right along
//good for American jobs

 
lookouts400 2009-11-15 06:21:30 PM  
I don't think so, but then again, studies can be made to say whatever anyone wants them to say. Besides, if no hetero couples have babies, only homosexuals, how long before the species becomes extinct? Appreciate the irony.

 
Huskadoodle 2009-11-15 06:21:42 PM  
Research funded by Rosie O'Donnell.

 
dahmers love zombie [TotalFark] 2009-11-15 06:22:21 PM  
Lesbian couples definitely make better parents. Well, hotter anyway.

 
BobDeluxe 2009-11-15 06:22:50 PM  
RoyBatty: The Crack Kid: I have a lot of friends on my uni's women's rugby team (hey, sometimes stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason), and I'm going to call anecdotal bullshiat. HOLY CRAP, lesbian relationship fights are a thing of terrifying power and destruction.

What are women made of?
Sugar and spice,
And everything nice,
That's what women are made of.


Well, a few of them. Some are made of a much different substance.....

 
Donnchadha 2009-11-15 06:23:17 PM  
Benevolent Misanthrope: ninjakirby: Isn't new. Homosexual adoptive parents score higher on education, income, age, attentiveness and preparedness than their heterosexual counterparts.

Obviously, we're a danger to the social institution of family, and to society at large.


Exactly. You're making them look bad.

 
pchancharl 2009-11-15 06:23:36 PM  
The Crack Kid

Oooh ooh I want stories.


I'll grab the popcorn. I hope it's a cross between Caged Heat and Sister Act 2!

 
TomD9938 [TotalFark] 2009-11-15 06:24:45 PM  
BobDeluxe:

TFA is gospel?

So long as it supports my position.

 
MrEricSir 2009-11-15 06:26:13 PM  
Unsung_Hero: ...kids do best when they have a male and female role model...

ORLY? You'd better have a good academic source to back yourself up if you're going to make an assertion like that.

(Hint: Just because they said it on Fox News doesn't mean it's true.)

 
DPSturm 2009-11-15 06:26:29 PM  
drtfa, came here for hot lesbian goodness, leaving now

 
MBK 2009-11-15 06:26:34 PM  
INeedAName: I think it has to do with choice. Homosexual couples make the choice to have a child, and so prepare themselves for that.

Hetero parents just get all willy nilly drunk and rip the condom, if they used one in the first place.

/Wishes people had to pass a test to have kids


You know what? I'm sick of this type of thought. I work at an afterschool day care center (for some extra money), and we have a mix of parents and kids. The program is meant for working parents who don't have time/money to hire babysitters, so they trust the school. We help the kids with homework, we play games, we teach sportsmanship and other things.

There are some "smart" parents that are terrible parents. They arrive just at closing time, pick up their kids, sign the signout sheet and walk out. They don't ask any questions, they are usually too busy talking on their cellphones. The kids try talking, the parents ignore them.

There are some "dumb" (education wise) parents that work crappy jobs but still pick up their kids, talk to us, talk to their kids, ask questions, they ask what they did, they ask if they still have homework to do (and sometimes they ask us for help on how to do their kids homework).

My parents fall into the second category. They immigrated to the US in the mid 70s from Iraq. They were newlyweds, but before they had any kids, they went to night school to improve their English. They were "dumb" from an education standpoint, but they were trying. When they got decent jobs, they decided to have kids. They could have gone to school to further their education, but they wanted kids. They worked their asses off for me and my siblings, so we can have an education and chances they never had. My brother is getting his Masters in Computer Animation. I have a B.A. in English. My sister has a B.S. in Engineering and might be going for her Masters.

My parents are "dumb" and have raised better kids than most "smart" parents.

And we wouldn't be here if people like you enacted "rules" for people to have kids. fark you and your elitist viewpoints.

/my cool story, bro

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-11-15 06:26:56 PM  
one wonders how exactly they define what makes a good parent

 
pchancharl 2009-11-15 06:27:49 PM  
Also, I want to throw this out there.

Boys tend to do best when they have a father figure to set them straight or they tend to act out and be little bastards. I read a study that said that women who divorced and later remarried were twice as likely to do so if they had a son from the previous marriage rather than a father. Don't know how that plays out with the whole 2 dads/moms scenario, but just thought I'd mention that.

 
Bartleby the Scrivener 2009-11-15 06:33:27 PM  
SoothinglyDeranged: Amazing, people who have to go the extra distance to actually become parents respect it more than people who usually become parents by accident. I am a farking explosion of surprise.

A premature gesticulation!

 
one_more_round 2009-11-15 06:33:36 PM  
MrEricSir: Unsung_Hero: ...kids do best when they have a male and female role model...

ORLY? You'd better have a good academic source to back yourself up if you're going to make an assertion like that.

(Hint: Just because they said it on Fox News doesn't mean it's true.)


derp

 
Wrong_Intentions 2009-11-15 06:33:52 PM  
Well hell yeah, they do. If you had lesbo moms, every guy in school would wanna hang out at your house all the time and you'd be really popular.

/LIE?

 
Mister Peejay 2009-11-15 06:34:14 PM  
The Crack Kid: HOLY CRAP, lesbian relationship fights are a thing of terrifying power and destruction.

So it's like a hetero relationship fight, only one of them won't roll over and put up with it?

Unsung_Hero: I'd like to see a study where they compare lesbian couples to hetero couples that adopt. While I don't doubt that lesbian (or gay) couples can raise a kid as well or better than the average hetero couple, kids do best when they have a male and female role model (who get along), assuming all other things are equal.

That's just it, all other things are not equal, unless you're comparing adoptive gay parents to adoptive straight parents. A lot of straight parents do not provide a very good male or female role model, assuming that both are even there.

I DNRTFA, but the way the submitter presents it, hetero couples are inherently worse parents. Barring a very vigourous proof, I'm not going to accept that.

Sorry doesn't put thumbs back on the hand, and uninflammatory headlines don't get the greenlight.

I also DRTFA but I wonder if the study included couples where the child was not adopted. It's possible, y'know. (Easier, too)

 
BobDeluxe 2009-11-15 06:34:39 PM  
TomD9938: BobDeluxe:

TFA is gospel?

So long as it supports my position.


Honesty without any whargarble (sp). I can respect that.

 
stainedglassdoll [TotalFark] 2009-11-15 06:37:23 PM  
MBK: INeedAName: I think it has to do with choice. Homosexual couples make the choice to have a child, and so prepare themselves for that.

Hetero parents just get all willy nilly drunk and rip the condom, if they used one in the first place.

/Wishes people had to pass a test to have kids

You know what? I'm sick of this type of thought. I work at an afterschool day care center (for some extra money), and we have a mix of parents and kids. The program is meant for working parents who don't have time/money to hire babysitters, so they trust the school. We help the kids with homework, we play games, we teach sportsmanship and other things.

There are some "smart" parents that are terrible parents. They arrive just at closing time, pick up their kids, sign the signout sheet and walk out. They don't ask any questions, they are usually too busy talking on their cellphones. The kids try talking, the parents ignore them.

There are some "dumb" (education wise) parents that work crappy jobs but still pick up their kids, talk to us, talk to their kids, ask questions, they ask what they did, they ask if they still have homework to do (and sometimes they ask us for help on how to do their kids homework).

My parents fall into the second category. They immigrated to the US in the mid 70s from Iraq. They were newlyweds, but before they had any kids, they went to night school to improve their English. They were "dumb" from an education standpoint, but they were trying. When they got decent jobs, they decided to have kids. They could have gone to school to further their education, but they wanted kids. They worked their asses off for me and my siblings, so we can have an education and chances they never had. My brother is getting his Masters in Computer Animation. I have a B.A. in English. My sister has a B.S. in Engineering and might be going for her Masters.

My parents are "dumb" and have raised better kids than most "smart" parents.

And we wouldn't be here if people like you enacted "rules" for people to have kids. fark you and your elitist viewpoints.

/my cool story, bro


I don't see anywhere where he said the test had to be an IQ/intellectual test. I'm sure he meant a test more along the lines of "Are you sure you want kids? Will you be able to meet the psychological and emotional demands that are required to develop a child into a functional, productive member of society?"

/doesn't necessarily agree with such a test
//playing devil's advocate

 
Holfax [TotalFark] 2009-11-15 06:37:53 PM  
BobDeluxe: I call bullshiat.

/bullshiat.


Makes sense to me. To be a homosexual parent takes planning, dedication, and effort. Those that would go through the process are less likely to screw up as parents.

On the heterosexual side...I give you Jamie Lynn Spears.

 
give me doughnuts [TotalFark] 2009-11-15 06:38:04 PM  
Are these movie-lesbians, or real lesbians?

 
Ringshadow [TotalFark] 2009-11-15 06:39:03 PM  
How about some people are really good parents by nature and some are really bad parents by nature, and people will tend to be better parents if they wanted the kids in the first place? I mean, screw where gender comes into this.

/straight girl who will not be having kids

 
BobDeluxe 2009-11-15 06:41:20 PM  
Holfax: BobDeluxe: I call bullshiat.

/bullshiat.

Makes sense to me. To be a homosexual parent takes planning, dedication, and effort. Those that would go through the process are less likely to screw up as parents.

On the heterosexual side...I give you Jamie Lynn Spears.


OK, on the homosexual side....I give you Perez Hilton.

 
FormlessOne 2009-11-15 06:42:16 PM  
bgarrett: bullshiat
Are you aware of how much lesbians fight and the intensity of their fights?
you can look it up
It will be best to keep kids away


Wow, that has to be one of the dumbest troll posts I've seen in a thread.

0/10

 
laurakirsten 2009-11-15 06:42:48 PM  
The Crack Kid: I have a lot of friends on my uni's women's rugby team (hey, sometimes stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason), and I'm going to call anecdotal bullshiat. HOLY CRAP, lesbian relationship fights are a thing of terrifying power and destruction.

My girlfriend and I very rarely fight, and when we do it gets resolved quickly and everything is forgotten ten minutes later.

I do recognize that we are probably atypical of the group, though. So please continue with your stereotypical garbage.

 
BobDeluxe 2009-11-15 06:43:55 PM  
BobDeluxe: Holfax: BobDeluxe: I call bullshiat.

/bullshiat.

Makes sense to me. To be a homosexual parent takes planning, dedication, and effort. Those that would go through the process are less likely to screw up as parents.

On the heterosexual side...I give you Jamie Lynn Spears.

OK, on the homosexual side....I give you Perez Hilton.


Aw dammit contestants have to have kids. My bad.

 
FormlessOne 2009-11-15 06:44:11 PM  
BobDeluxe: Holfax: BobDeluxe: I call bullshiat.

/bullshiat.

Makes sense to me. To be a homosexual parent takes planning, dedication, and effort. Those that would go through the process are less likely to screw up as parents.

On the heterosexual side...I give you Jamie Lynn Spears.

OK, on the homosexual side....I give you Perez Hilton.


Perez Hilton has kids?

Oh, wait, never mind. You were trying to match apples and oranges. I get it. That's funny.

 
public option 2009-11-15 06:44:25 PM  
What lesbian parents may (not) look like:
img.dailymail.co.uk

 
FormlessOne 2009-11-15 06:44:51 PM  
BobDeluxe: BobDeluxe: Holfax: BobDeluxe: I call bullshiat.

/bullshiat.

Makes sense to me. To be a homosexual parent takes planning, dedication, and effort. Those that would go through the process are less likely to screw up as parents.

On the heterosexual side...I give you Jamie Lynn Spears.

OK, on the homosexual side....I give you Perez Hilton.

Aw dammit contestants have to have kids. My bad.


See? Now, if you'd gone with, say, Paula Poundstone, I'd have backed that play.

 
give me doughnuts [TotalFark] 2009-11-15 06:45:15 PM  
MBK: And we wouldn't be here if people like you enacted "rules" for people to have kids. fark you and your elitist viewpoints.

The rest of us probably wouldn't consider this to be a bad thing. I support the idea of having to pass a test to become a parent. Question #1 is: Are you really sure that you want to be a parent?

It wouldn't make you discuss Chaucer, there wouldn't be any math, it would simply test your willingness to be a parent, and some basic knowlege of child care.
You need to pass a test to legally drive a car, don't you? This is the same sort of thing. It's a big responsibility, so make it is something you really want.

 
Erix 2009-11-15 06:45:49 PM  
bgarrett
Are you aware of how much lesbians fight and the intensity of their fights?
you can look it up


Googling "fighting lesbians" sounds like a great idea. I think I'll do that in the privacy of my home.

On another note, the "still no cure for cancer" thing is getting a little tired. Half these memes just seem like ways for people too lazy to come up with creative headlines to get something greenlit.

/too lazy to even submit a headline
//too lazy to even become a TFer

 
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