There was an excellent graphic in the Steelers-Broncos game this past Monday, showing Pittsburgh's first round picks from the past ten years:

2009 . Evander Hood
2008 . Rashard Mendenhall
2007 . Lawrence Timmons
2006 . Santonio Holmes
2005 . Heath Miller
2004 . Ben Roethlisberger
2003 . Troy Polomalu
2002 . Kendall Simmons
2001 . Casey Hampton
2000 . Plaxico Burress

Now, that is a superb run of top picks, all of whom have been very productive starters in the NFL (save for the most recent, Ziggy Hood, who's still learning but who really looks like he can play), and all, apart from Kendall Simmons who blew out his achilles and Plax who shot himself, are still in the league and playing at a high level. The picks were both both lucky and smart in equal measure, and were a huge part of why Pittsburgh has two rings in that time.

Johnny Lam Jones.

Freeman McNeil.

Ken O'Brien.

Roger Vick.

Jeff Lageman.

Blair Thomas.

Johnny Mitchell.

Kyle Brady.

God Dammit.

Out of (morbid) curiosity, I looked up all of the Buffalo Bills draft picks for 2000-2009 to compare with the ones peachpicker posted:

2009 - Aaron Maybin and Eric Wood
2008 - Leodis McKelvin
2007 - Marshawn Lynch
2006 - Donte Whitner and John McCargo
2005 - (traded pick)
2004 - Lee Evans and JP Losman
2003 - Willis McGahee
2002 - Mike Williams
2001 - Nate Clements
2000 - Erik Flowers

There are very few positive comments that can be said of this bunch. Nate Clements and Lee Evans are the few bright spots. McCargo and Flowers were busts, and Williams was a colossal failure. Maybin has been invisible this year (future bust) and Wood was a reach.

Of course, it would help if the Bills had some competent coaching. Nobody ever gets better with the Bills, they only get worse. (Losman, Trent Edwards, McGahee, Lynch, etc.)

It's easy to see why the Steelers are perennial playoff contenders and the Bills are not.

Vernon,

You're my boy and all, but you had no business being drafted in the first round. Pay attention in the offseason, get leaner, and come back ready to murderize people.

Sincerely,

The Six Fingered Buckeye

astrnomr: Out of (morbid) curiosity, I looked up all of the Buffalo Bills draft picks for 2000-2009 to compare with the ones peachpicker posted:

2009 - Aaron Maybin and Eric Wood
2008 - Leodis McKelvin
2007 - Marshawn Lynch
2006 - Donte Whitner and John McCargo
2005 - (traded pick)
2004 - Lee Evans and JP Losman
2003 - Willis McGahee
2002 - Mike Williams
2001 - Nate Clements
2000 - Erik Flowers

There are very few positive comments that can be said of this bunch. Nate Clements and Lee Evans are the few bright spots. McCargo and Flowers were busts, and Williams was a colossal failure. Maybin has been invisible this year (future bust) and Wood was a reach.

Of course, it would help if the Bills had some competent coaching. Nobody ever gets better with the Bills, they only get worse. (Losman, Trent Edwards, McGahee, Lynch, etc.)

It's easy to see why the Steelers are perennial playoff contenders and the Bills are not.

I'd look that up for the Chiefs, but then i'd spend the rest of the day throwing up/crying.

1. Brian Orakpo, DE/LB, Texas
1. LaRon Landry, S, LSU
1. Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn (9th overall)
1. Jason Campbell, QB, Auburn (25th overall)
1. Sean Taylor, S, Miami - 5th overall
1. Patrick Ramsey, QB, Tulane
1. Rod Gardner, WR, Clemson
1. LaVar Arrington, LB, Penn St.
1. Chris Samuels, T, Alabama

Not bad but don't look at the middle rounds!!!

Out of further morbid curiosity I looked up the Browns picks.

1999 - Tim Couch
2000 - Courtney Brown
2001 - Gerard Warren
2002 - William Green
2003 - Jeff Faine
2004 - Kellen Winslow II
2005 - Braylon Edwards
2006 - Kamerion Wimbley
2007 - Joe Thomas
2007 - Brady Quinn
2008 - No Pick
2009 - Alex Mack

We actually don't draft too awful at all. We just can't/won't retain the primadonna/head cases we do draft, or let the others get the everloving crap beat out of them behind a leaky offensive line.

I approve of today's Eric Mangenius headlines.

spacechicken170am: 1. Brian Orakpo, DE/LB, Texas
1. LaRon Landry, S, LSU
1. Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn (9th overall)
1. Jason Campbell, QB, Auburn (25th overall)
1. Sean Taylor, S, Miami - 5th overall
1. Patrick Ramsey, QB, Tulane
1. Rod Gardner, WR, Clemson
1. LaVar Arrington, LB, Penn St.
1. Chris Samuels, T, Alabama

Not bad but don't look at the middle rounds!!!

Those are all pretty good, except for Taylor, who is dead weight.

MANGINA

Treygreen13: Those are all pretty good, except for Taylor, who is dead weight.

Zing.

I still Youtube his absolute flattening of Brian Moorman from that Pro Bowl game when I need a laugh.

I was looking at other choices they had instead of Gholston(pick#6), a few of the ones with names I recognized were:

10. New England - Jerod Mayo, LB Tennessee
13. Carolina - Jonathan Stewart, RB Oregon
16. Arizona - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB Tennessee State paired with Revis that would have been a quite a CB duo.
18. Baltimore (From Texans)- Joe Flacco, QB Delaware
22. Dallas (From Browns)- Felix Jones, RB Arkansas
23. Pittsburgh - Rashard Mendenhall, RB Illinois
24. Tennessee - Chris Johnson, RB East Carolina
42. Denver - Eddie Royal, WR Virginia Tech
44. Chicago - Matt Forte, RB Tulane
49. Philadelphia - DeSean Jackson, WR California

Same old Jets!
/born and raised a Jets fan
//thanks Pop!

I seem to recall that the main reason that Mangini wanted Gholston was because Belichick apparently made some comments that made it look like he was going to take Gholston. But BB probably knew that his "protege" would take the bait, and thus the Jets ended up wasting $21 million.

That said, the other Jets picks haven't been horrible since the Parcells era. Sanchez and Shonn Greene look like they're solid, Cotchery and Keller should make the Pro Bowl one of these years, and David Harris and Darrelle Revis are already among the best in the game. Sure there have been busts, but it's pretty tough for an organization to get almost everything right the way the Steelers and the Pats have done. In fact I'm more concerned about how many picks the Jets are trading away than who they pick with them.

Now you know why you don't pay rookies 20 million in guaranteed money.

/As if anyone needed anymore evidence these days

Treygreen13: spacechicken170am: 1. Brian Orakpo, DE/LB, Texas
1. LaRon Landry, S, LSU
1. Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn (9th overall)
1. Jason Campbell, QB, Auburn (25th overall)
1. Sean Taylor, S, Miami - 5th overall
1. Patrick Ramsey, QB, Tulane
1. Rod Gardner, WR, Clemson
1. LaVar Arrington, LB, Penn St.
1. Chris Samuels, T, Alabama

Not bad but don't look at the middle rounds!!!

Those are all pretty good, except for Taylor, who is dead weight.

I don't mean to beat a dead horse collar here but you guys haven't had the best luck with safeties either.

Never gets old. (new window)

astrnomr: Out of (morbid) curiosity, I looked up all of the Buffalo Bills draft picks for 2000-2009 to compare with the ones peachpicker posted:

2009 - Aaron Maybin and Eric Wood
2008 - Leodis McKelvin
2007 - Marshawn Lynch
2006 - Donte Whitner and John McCargo
2005 - (traded pick)
2004 - Lee Evans and JP Losman
2003 - Willis McGahee
2002 - Mike Williams
2001 - Nate Clements
2000 - Erik Flowers

There are very few positive comments that can be said of this bunch. Nate Clements and Lee Evans are the few bright spots. McCargo and Flowers were busts, and Williams was a colossal failure. Maybin has been invisible this year (future bust) and Wood was a reach.

Of course, it would help if the Bills had some competent coaching. Nobody ever gets better with the Bills, they only get worse. (Losman, Trent Edwards, McGahee, Lynch, etc.)

It's easy to see why the Steelers are perennial playoff contenders and the Bills are not.

I saw the post and wanted to do the same thing, but I knew it would just piss me off.

You ever look at a draft history and just look at the names that show up after the Bills pick?

No? Good. Don't.

This reminds me of the story of how Brett Favre played hurt last year because the Jets lied about his injury, when everyone knows Brett Favre wanted nothing more than to sit on the sidelines and mentor some young quarterback.

/There's no "Farvrer" in T-E-A-M.

Well since everyone's doing it for their team:

2000 - Ron Dayne
2001 - Will Allen
2002 - Jeremy Shockey
2003 - William Joseph
2004 - Phillip Rivers (traded for Eli)
2005 - no 1st rounder
2006 - Mathias Kiwanuka
2007 - Aaron Ross
2008 - Kenny Phillips
2009 - Hakeem Nicks

Pretty solid. Only ones you can consider busts are Dayne and Joseph, and even they showed some flashes now and then. Though Ross and Phillips being hurt doesn't help.

However, let's look at the Giants' 2007 Draft from top to bottom. This was the Super Bowl year.

1st - Aaron Ross
2nd - Steve Smith
3rd - Jay Alford
4th - Zak DeOssie
5th - Kevin Boss
6th - Adam Koets
7th - Michael Johnson
7th - Ahmad Bradshaw

That has to be high in the running for best draft ever. All of those guys are contributors except for Koets, and several of them had immediate impact that year in the run to the Super Bowl.

spacechicken170am: Treygreen13: spacechicken170am: 1. Brian Orakpo, DE/LB, Texas
1. LaRon Landry, S, LSU
1. Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn (9th overall)
1. Jason Campbell, QB, Auburn (25th overall)
1. Sean Taylor, S, Miami - 5th overall
1. Patrick Ramsey, QB, Tulane
1. Rod Gardner, WR, Clemson
1. LaVar Arrington, LB, Penn St.
1. Chris Samuels, T, Alabama

Not bad but don't look at the middle rounds!!!

Those are all pretty good, except for Taylor, who is dead weight.

I don't mean to beat a dead horse collar here but you guys haven't had the best luck with safeties either.

Safety Roy Williams was a fine acquisition until the league said, "Oh hey, we noticed that your signature method of tackling was injuring all our star players, so it is illegal now".

Bengals:

2009-Andre Smith
2008-Keith Rivers
2007-Leon Hall
2006-Jonathan Joseph
2005-David Pollack
2004-Chris Perry
2003-Carson Palmer
2002-Levi Jones
2001-Justin Smith
2000-Peter Warrick

Four solid-very good players. Jones and Justin Smith were serviceable. Pollack had a career-ending spinal injury, so it's hard to say how he would have panned out. Perry and Warrick were busts.

Meh.

2005 Cowboys Draft:
Demarcus Ware
Marcus Spears
Kevin Burnett
Marion Barber
Chris Canty
Justin Berlault
Rob Petitti
Jay Ratliff

Not too bad. I had no idea Jay Ratliff was a 7th rounder.

Arkanaut: I seem to recall that the main reason that Mangini wanted Gholston was because Belichick apparently made some comments that made it look like he was going to take Gholston. But BB probably knew that his "protege" would take the bait, and thus the Jets ended up wasting $21 million.

I've heard that story, too, and it dovetails with the rumor that the same thing happened in 2003 with Dewayne Robertson. There were numerous rumors that the Pats were going to trade a boatload of picks to Detroit (I think) to move up and get Robertson, but the Jets outfoxed the Pats and stole their boy. He worked out just as good as Gholston, too...

Also for comparison, Dallas 1st rounders

1999 Ebenezer Ekuban
2000 Trade for Joey Galloway
2001 Trade for Joey Galloway
(what a monumental cluster fark that was)
2002 Roy Williams
2003 Terrance Newman
2004 Traded out of the first round
2005 Demarcus Ware (He's allright)
2005 Marcus Spears
2006 Bobby Carpenter
2007 Anthony Spencer
2008 Felix Jones
2008 Mike Jenkins

1995 Ki-Jana Carter - injured first game
1997 Reinard Wilson
1998 Takeo Spikes
1999 Akili Smith
2000 Peter Warrick
2002 Levi Jones -
2004 Chris Perry - injured in first season
2005 David Pollack - paralyzed early first season
2007 Keith Rivers - injured early first season
2009 Andre Smith - injured pre season

Omitted the good first round picks to make list look more abysmal. And people think the Bengals are cursed...

We know, we know. Obama is the cause of all the country's problems, Mangini is the cause of all the Jets' problems.

capnmonkey: 2007 Keith Rivers - injured early first season

Should be 2008...injured by the cowardly Hines Ward and his now illegal tactics.

1999 -- Damien Woody and Andy Katzenmoyer (Woody is on the team and Katz retired after a neck injury)
2000 -- no pick (but consider they got Tom Brady in the 6th round)
2001 -- Richard Seymour -- 3 SB rings and traded for the Raiders first pick in 2011
2002 -- Daniel Graham -- now on the Broncos
2003 -- Ty Warren
2004 -- Vince Wilfork and Benjamin Watson
2005 -- Logan Mankins
2006 -- Laurence Maroney -- jury still out on this one
2007 -- Brandon Meriweather
2008 -- Jerod Mayo
2009 -- no pick

I'd say the Patriots have done pretty well in the first round this past decade. Some of their middle round picks have been busts, though (Chad Jackson, anyone?)

Arkanaut: I seem to recall that the main reason that Mangini wanted Gholston was because Belichick apparently made some comments that made it look like he was going to take Gholston. But BB probably knew that his "protege" would take the bait, and thus the Jets ended up wasting $21 million.

That said, the other Jets picks haven't been horrible since the Parcells era. Sanchez and Shonn Greene look like they're solid, Cotchery and Keller should make the Pro Bowl one of these years, and David Harris and Darrelle Revis are already among the best in the game. Sure there have been busts, but it's pretty tough for an organization to get almost everything right the way the Steelers and the Pats have done. In fact I'm more concerned about how many picks the Jets are trading away than who they pick with them.

If that's true, the Pats ended up with Mayo, so I'd say it worked out well for the Pats.

Minarets: Also for comparison, Dallas 1st rounders

1999 Ebenezer Ekuban
2000 Trade for Joey Galloway
2001 Trade for Joey Galloway
(what a monumental cluster fark that was)
2002 Roy Williams
2003 Terrance Newman
2004 Traded out of the first round
2005 Demarcus Ware (He's allright)
2005 Marcus Spears
2006 Bobby Carpenter
2007 Anthony Spencer
2008 Felix Jones
2008 Mike Jenkins

Ekuban was serviceable for a few years.
Roy Williams was an absolute defensive terror until the rule change.
T-New is a beast.
D-Ware is a beast.
Marcus Spears is very good.
Bobby Carpenter started off very slow, but he has improved significantly this season.
Anthony Spencer was sort of a bust, but that has to be balanced out by the fact that he is in a very, very deep backfield.
Felix Jones (if he can stay healthy) is huge asset.
Make Jenkins is overshadowed by how awesome T-New is, but he is serviceable.

I'd say they have drafted well in the first round.

Why not. Starting with the ascension of Rod Graves in 2003 (but backwards)...

2008
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, DB (1st, 16th)
Calais Campbell, DE (2nd, 50th)
Tim Hightower, RB (5th, 149th)

2007
Levi Brown, T (1st, 5th)
Steve Breaston, WR (5th, 142nd)

2006
Matt Leinart, QB (1st, 10th)
*Deuce Lutui, G (2nd, 41st)

2005
Antrel Rolle, DB (1st, 8th)

2004
Larry Fitzgerald, WR (1st, 3rd)
Karlos Dansby, LB (2nd, 33rd)
Darnell Dockett, DT (3rd, 64th)

2003
Bryant Johnson, WR (1st, 17th)
Calvin Pace, DE (1st, 18th)
Anquan Boldin, WR (2nd, 54th)

*Mentioned if only for exceptional acting skills when punched.

Johnson and Pace turned out to be eh though Boldin was a steal, 2004 was exceptional, 2005's Rolle appears to have finally found a niche, 2006 remains something of an enigma, the emergence of 2007's Breaston helping to damper the underwhelming selection of Levi Brown and finally 2008 having apparently produced another group of solid contributors.

So we're what? 3 of 6? Good enough for the NFC West, baby!

The New York Jets wanted to draft Brett Favre, but he got picked up by the Falcons one pick earlier. The next year the Jets assistant GM was GM of the Packers and talked them into trading with the Falcons for Favre. Traded a first round pick for someone who looked like a total nobody. Worked out well for Green Bay. Alas, the poor Jets.

Yet, every year when I watch the draft (a tradition that I will NEVAR skip) the Jets fans are the most obnoxious crew in attendance.

2009 Vontae Davis
2008 Jake Long
2007 Ted Ginn Jr.
2006 Jason Allen
2005 Ronnie Brown
2004 Vernon Carey
2003 (no 1st)
2002 (no 1st or 2nd)
2001 Jamar Fletcher
2000 (no 1st)
1999 (no 1st)

Yes, the Dolphins are kind of a mess, but we've drafted 8 starters the last two years, and three the year before that.

/fark you, Dave Wannstedt.

Dog Welder: 1999 -- Damien Woody and Andy Katzenmoyer (Woody is on the team and Katz retired after a neck injury)
2000 -- no pick (but consider they got Tom Brady in the 6th round)
2001 -- Richard Seymour -- 3 SB rings and traded for the Raiders first pick in 2011
2002 -- Daniel Graham -- now on the Broncos
2003 -- Ty Warren
2004 -- Vince Wilfork and Benjamin Watson
2005 -- Logan Mankins
2006 -- Laurence Maroney -- jury still out on this one
2007 -- Brandon Meriweather
2008 -- Jerod Mayo
2009 -- no pick

I'd say the Patriots have done pretty well in the first round this past decade. Some of their middle round picks have been busts, though (Chad Jackson, anyone?)

The patriots can draft well? who knew!

WhyteRaven74: The New York Jets wanted to draft Brett Favre, but he got picked up by the Falcons one pick earlier. The next year the Jets assistant GM was GM of the Packers and talked them into trading with the Falcons for Favre. Traded a first round pick for someone who looked like a total nobody. Worked out well for Green Bay. Alas, the poor Jets.

someone recently told me this. And I cried myself to sleep that night.

macadamnut: 2009 Vontae Davis
2008 Jake Long
2007 Ted Ginn Jr.
2006 Jason Allen
2005 Ronnie Brown
2004 Vernon Carey
2003 (no 1st)
2002 (no 1st or 2nd)
2001 Jamar Fletcher
2000 (no 1st)
1999 (no 1st)

Yes, the Dolphins are kind of a mess, but we've drafted 8 starters the last two years, and three the year before that.

/fark you, Dave Wannstedt.

And the rest of the starters used to be Dallas Cowboys draft picks. :P

tommyl66: Arkanaut: I seem to recall that the main reason that Mangini wanted Gholston was because Belichick apparently made some comments that made it look like he was going to take Gholston. But BB probably knew that his "protege" would take the bait, and thus the Jets ended up wasting $21 million.

I've heard that story, too, and it dovetails with the rumor that the same thing happened in 2003 with Dewayne Robertson. There were numerous rumors that the Pats were going to trade a boatload of picks to Detroit (I think) to move up and get Robertson, but the Jets outfoxed the Pats and stole their boy. He worked out just as good as Gholston, too...

I've heard both those stories of Belichick conning the Jets as well. There's also the story of Belichick hearing the Jets were trying to move up in '07 to draft Revis and Bill got involved and drove up the price. Tannenbaum seems paranoid and fixated on getting one over on Belichick, but more often than not gets played for the fool.

To think they could have traded down several spots in '08, picked up an extra mid-round pick, and gotten Joe Flacco. They could have saved themselves the third rounder for their one year Favre rental and the first and second rounders + 3 players for Sanchez. But of course, trading down is a foreign concept to Tannenbaum. 20 bucks says he trades back up into the top 10 next draft, because THIS time, the Jets really really are only 1 good player away from a Super Bowl dynasty team, and who really needs depth, anyway??

2009 - Percy Harvin.
2007 - Adrian Peterson, Sidney Rice
2006 - Chad Greenway, Cedric Griffin

A few notables, at least.

Treygreen13: Yet, every year when I watch the draft (a tradition that I will NEVAR skip) the Jets fans are the most obnoxious crew in attendance.

Do you mean the only crew in attendence? Its the same thing every year, Jets and Giants fans are out en masse, and the Jets fans are just more energetic...or obnoxious, depends on how many beers youve had.

Doooom: MANGINA

a-oom poppa mow mow

capnmonkey: capnmonkey: 2007 Keith Rivers - injured early first season

Should be 2008...injured by the cowardly awesome Hines Ward and his now illegal tactics because he didn't keep his head up.

vinnydoz007: Treygreen13: Yet, every year when I watch the draft (a tradition that I will NEVAR skip) the Jets fans are the most obnoxious crew in attendance.

Do you mean the only crew in attendence? Its the same thing every year, Jets and Giants fans are out en masse, and the Jets fans are just more energetic...or obnoxious, depends on how many beers youve had.

I've never actually attended, I just watch it on TV every year with an ice cold beer and a bowl of popcorn. However, "energetic" is the most appropriate term, I guess. I can hear them squealing through the TV and waving their jerseys around while the Chiefs are making their third round pick.

1999 -- Damien Woody and Andy Katzenmoyer (Woody is on the team and Katz retired after a neck injury)
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Well unless you're posting from the year 2003 Damien Woody is not on the Patriots.

The Rams have done absolutely awful with 1st round picks. Oddly, I don't think they've done as badly as some of the other teams on here. In retrospect, only Steven Jackson still seems like a good idea, with Chris Long and Jason Smith still getting 'incompletes'

2000 Trung Candidate, Damione Lewis
2001 Adam Archuleta, Ryan Pickett
2002 Robert Thomas
2003 Jimmy Kennedy
2004 Steven Jackson
2005 Alex Barron
2006 Tye Hill
2007 Adam Carriker
2008 Chris Long
2009 Jason Smith

Dog Welder: 1999 -- Damien Woody and Andy Katzenmoyer (Woody is on the team and Katz retired after a neck injury)
2000 -- no pick (but consider they got Tom Brady in the 6th round)
2001 -- Richard Seymour -- 3 SB rings and traded for the Raiders first pick in 2011
2002 -- Daniel Graham -- now on the Broncos
2003 -- Ty Warren
2004 -- Vince Wilfork and Benjamin Watson
2005 -- Logan Mankins
2006 -- Laurence Maroney -- jury still out on this one
2007 -- Brandon Meriweather
2008 -- Jerod Mayo
2009 -- no pick

I'd say the Patriots have done pretty well in the first round this past decade. Some of their middle round picks have been busts, though (Chad Jackson, anyone?)

I would throw out '99, since that was a Bobby Grier/Pete Carroll draft. And considering the Pats traded their first in '09 for Darius Butler, Brandon Tate, Julian Edelman, and a 2nd rounder next year, I'd chalk that one up as a win.

Treygreen13: macadamnut: 2009 Vontae Davis
2008 Jake Long
2007 Ted Ginn Jr.
2006 Jason Allen
2005 Ronnie Brown
2004 Vernon Carey
2003 (no 1st)
2002 (no 1st or 2nd)
2001 Jamar Fletcher
2000 (no 1st)
1999 (no 1st)

Yes, the Dolphins are kind of a mess, but we've drafted 8 starters the last two years, and three the year before that.

/fark you, Dave Wannstedt.

And the rest of the starters used to be Dallas Cowboys draft picks. :P

I didn't know Nate Jones came from there, interesting. He's not a starter, but he looks a lot better than Gibril Wilson.
Unfortunately, Fasano is stinky dog meat this year, and Akin Ayodele was drafted by the Jags.

/Nobody had ever heard of the Patriots before they kidnapped Wes Welker.

macadamnut: Treygreen13: macadamnut: 2009 Vontae Davis
2008 Jake Long
2007 Ted Ginn Jr.
2006 Jason Allen
2005 Ronnie Brown
2004 Vernon Carey
2003 (no 1st)
2002 (no 1st or 2nd)
2001 Jamar Fletcher
2000 (no 1st)
1999 (no 1st)

Yes, the Dolphins are kind of a mess, but we've drafted 8 starters the last two years, and three the year before that.

/fark you, Dave Wannstedt.

And the rest of the starters used to be Dallas Cowboys draft picks. :P

I didn't know Nate Jones came from there, interesting. He's not a starter, but he looks a lot better than Gibril Wilson.
Unfortunately, Fasano is stinky dog meat this year, and Akin Ayodele was drafted by the Jags.

/Nobody had ever heard of the Patriots before they kidnapped Wes Welker.

I was expecting big things from Fasano this year. I was wrong.

He's good, but I can see why the Cowboys would let him go. Just no room behind Witten.

i watch the draft just to hear the cries of jets fans

apacheco: i watch the draft just to hear the cries of jets fans

It doesn't seem to matter what the Jets do... no matter what the fans are wailing and throwing themselves off the balconies.

macadamnut: Treygreen13: macadamnut: 2009 Vontae Davis
2008 Jake Long
2007 Ted Ginn Jr.
2006 Jason Allen
2005 Ronnie Brown
2004 Vernon Carey
2003 (no 1st)
2002 (no 1st or 2nd)
2001 Jamar Fletcher
2000 (no 1st)
1999 (no 1st)

Yes, the Dolphins are kind of a mess, but we've drafted 8 starters the last two years, and three the year before that.

/fark you, Dave Wannstedt.

And the rest of the starters used to be Dallas Cowboys draft picks. :P

I didn't know Nate Jones came from there, interesting. He's not a starter, but he looks a lot better than Gibril Wilson.
Unfortunately, Fasano is stinky dog meat this year, and Akin Ayodele was drafted by the Jags.

/Nobody had ever heard of the Patriots before they kidnapped Wes Welker.

I simply dont understand how the dolphins let the Pats get Welker for NOTHING! I saw that kids potential a mile away, hell he even did well with the Fins. And they just let him go. To a division rival no less. Horrible horrible horrible move.

SigmaAlgebra: capnmonkey: capnmonkey: 2007 Keith Rivers - injured early first season

Should be 2008...injured by the cowardly awesome Hines Ward and his now illegal tactics because he didn't keep his head up.

The local papers tried to play this drama up massively in preparation for the bengals/steelers first game with Rivers back, I'm glad it fizzled out into a non-story.