If you have to post an annoying slide-show, have the courtesy to link to the start of the slide-show. -1 subby, for this breach of etiquette.

greentea1985: If you have to post an annoying slide-show, have the courtesy to link to the start of the slide-show. -1 subby, for this breach of etiquette.

Had probably already been submitted at the "#1" slide.

Also, FTFA: "..the exciting Reggie Bush." wtf?

greentea1985: If you have to post an annoying slide-show, have the courtesy to link to the start of the slide-show. -1 subby, for this breach of etiquette.

Submitter was clearly referring to that specific slide, to-wit:

They would have been better off starting over at quarterback with Young or Matt Leinart, or by taking the exciting Reggie Bush.

/not submitter

Old slideshow is old.

FTFA: Yes, New England is 9-4 and will win the AFC East, but that division is a joke this year, and if the Patriots were playing like they should, they would have captured homefield advantage in the AFC playoffs.

Link

The last time the Patriots were 9-4 at any point in the season was 2006.


Submitter is a moran who should DIAF for submitting a link (a slideshow no less!) from Two thousand farking six.

mjoven1975: The last time the Patriots were 9-4 at any point in the season was 2006.

Isn't there only one point in any given season at which they could have been 9-4?

kronicfeld: mjoven1975: The last time the Patriots were 9-4 at any point in the season was 2006.

Isn't there only one point in any given season at which they could have been 9-4?

Oops! I should have said the last time the Patriots were 9-4 after 13 games was 2006.

Yay submitter, for getting a slideshow from 2006 that doesn't start on the 1st slide greenlit. Now the liters can feel the suck.

/Sarcasm off.

mjoven1975: FTFA: Yes, New England is 9-4 and will win the AFC East, but that division is a joke this year, and if the Patriots were playing like they should, they would have captured homefield advantage in the AFC playoffs.

Link

The last time the Patriots were 9-4 at any point in the season was 2006.


Submitter is a moran who should DIAF for submitting a link (a slideshow no less!) from Two thousand farking six.

greentea1985: Yay submitter, for getting a slideshow from 2006 that doesn't start on the 1st slide greenlit. Now the liters can feel the suck.


I think submitter is specifically pointing out SI's incorrect projection of Mario Williams' long-term impact compared to those other 3 busts.

/not submitter

dugitman: I think submitter is specifically pointing out SI's incorrect projection of Mario Williams' long-term impact compared to those other 3 busts.

/not submitter

Yes, that's exactly what subby is doing. Man, the Internet tough guys are out in force tonight. And they ain't too bright.

/not subby

I think the point of this submission was that drafting Mario Williams, which was deemed a HORRIBLE OFFSEASON MOVE by SI, was actually the right move, since Mario is actually a great player and Bush hasn't lived up to the hype.

Hmm, I think I'll go find the Peter King article from Pre-Season 2004, where he said he doesn't see any wins - not even one - on the Chargers' schedule.


/Went 12-4.
//subby should be b& from sports threads until after the super bowl.

I see what subby did there. Trying to single out the Mario Williams thing. And I agree, that was a huge miss by SI.

But overall that was kind of a hit-or-miss list. Some horrible, some right. Though they absolutely nailed #1 (Dolphins going Culpepper over Brees).

I like how they say Tom Brady complained about his receiver being traded away. So how did the team react to his complaining? They got Wes Welker and Randy Moss the next season. I'd say Tom was heard loud and clear.

I like this one better: Link (new window)

can we get a moran count in this thread

ART SHELL FACE! (new window)

WarDamnBeagle: dugitman: I think submitter is specifically pointing out SI's incorrect projection of Mario Williams' long-term impact compared to those other 3 busts.

/not submitter

Yes, that's exactly what subby is doing. Man, the Internet tough guys are out in force tonight. And they ain't too bright.

/not subby

I think everyone knows subby was pointing out the Mario Williams thing. Pointing out the obvious isn't too bright, if you ask me.

But who the fark cares? There are 4-5 other "projections" in that same slide show that are stupid and inaccurate and these chumps make horrible predictions on a weekly basis. We all realized 2 years ago that Williams was better than Young or Bush, and that the media was wrong. Why are we discussing ancient fail when there's plenty of current, relevant fail to go around?

"Raiders pass on Matt Leinart"

Several teams are guilty of passing on the former Heisman Trophy winner, who went No. 10 to Arizona, but the Raiders might have made the biggest mistake.

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: "Raiders pass on Matt Leinart"

Several teams are guilty of passing on the former Heisman Trophy winner, who went No. 10 to Arizona, but the Raiders might have made the biggest mistake.

I'm still not convinced that we should throw Leinart on the scrap heap. He was decent (especially for a rookie) when he first started, got hurt, and then lost out on the Cards' QB battle when Warner became Warner again.

I'm not saying I think he's going to light the world on fire, but I'd love to see him get a chance to start somewhere. I think there could still be something there.

FreakinB: I see what subby did there. Trying to single out the Mario Williams thing. And I agree, that was a huge miss by SI.

But it's not like it's Bowie over Jordan or the spectacular failure of Ryan Leaf or anything. Sure, Bush hasn't performed at the same level in the NFL as he did in college, but it's not like he's flamed out of the league or been a throw-in for trades, and picking Bush certainly didn't put the Saints organization back a number of years.

FreakinB: Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: "Raiders pass on Matt Leinart"

Several teams are guilty of passing on the former Heisman Trophy winner, who went No. 10 to Arizona, but the Raiders might have made the biggest mistake.

I'm still not convinced that we should throw Leinart on the scrap heap. He was decent (especially for a rookie) when he first started, got hurt, and then lost out on the Cards' QB battle when Warner became Warner again.

I'm not saying I think he's going to light the world on fire, but I'd love to see him get a chance to start somewhere. I think there could still be something there.

Oh, don't count me as without hope. He's getting the reigns after Kurt, so I damn well better hope he'll succeed. I'm simply lulzing at the apparent suggestion by SI that the Raiders somehow missed out on the next Peyton.

At the time, everyone thought it was a bad move.

/well, except the Texans front office.

TheLopper: At the time, everyone thought it was a bad move.

/well, except the Texans front office.


Well, not drafting him over Young. A lot of people thought that was a good move, it was the Reggie Bush thing that got people.

Brett Favre?

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: FreakinB: Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: "Raiders pass on Matt Leinart"

Several teams are guilty of passing on the former Heisman Trophy winner, who went No. 10 to Arizona, but the Raiders might have made the biggest mistake.

I'm still not convinced that we should throw Leinart on the scrap heap. He was decent (especially for a rookie) when he first started, got hurt, and then lost out on the Cards' QB battle when Warner became Warner again.

I'm not saying I think he's going to light the world on fire, but I'd love to see him get a chance to start somewhere. I think there could still be something there.

Oh, don't count me as without hope. He's getting the reigns after Kurt, so I damn well better hope he'll succeed. I'm simply lulzing at the apparent suggestion by SI that the Raiders somehow missed out on the next Peyton.

Well, to be fair, I'm sure Raiders fans would have preferred Leinart to their current QB

TheLopper: At the time, everyone thought it was a bad move.

/well, except the Texans front office.

And as the Chronicle pointed out two years ago, everyone has been forced to eat their words.

/somebody needs to draw him about to sack a Koopa Troopa

NEDM: TheLopper: At the time, everyone thought it was a bad move.

/well, except the Texans front office.

And as the Chronicle pointed out two years ago, everyone has been forced to eat their words.

/somebody needs to draw him about to sack a Koopa Troopa

Now all the Texans need to do is fire Aggie Gary, and they'll be set, right?

/5-4, should be 6-2.
//Jets game is still inexcusable
///So are rampant fumbles
////Slashies.

matthew_tray: NEDM: TheLopper: At the time, everyone thought it was a bad move.

/well, except the Texans front office.

And as the Chronicle pointed out two years ago, everyone has been forced to eat their words.

/somebody needs to draw him about to sack a Koopa Troopa

Now all the Texans need to do is fire Aggie Gary, and they'll be set, right?

/5-4, should be 6-2.
//Jets game is still inexcusable
///So are rampant fumbles
////Slashies.

Dude, I don't know what you have against Kubiak, but we are still doing the best we have in the team's history. We can be doing better of course, but don't start calling for his head until we hit 2-14 again.

/*sigh*, why can't we ever have an easy schedule?

NEDM: matthew_tray: NEDM: TheLopper: At the time, everyone thought it was a bad move.

/well, except the Texans front office.

And as the Chronicle pointed out two years ago, everyone has been forced to eat their words.

/somebody needs to draw him about to sack a Koopa Troopa

Now all the Texans need to do is fire Aggie Gary, and they'll be set, right?

/5-4, should be 6-2.
//Jets game is still inexcusable
///So are rampant fumbles
////Slashies.

Dude, I don't know what you have against Kubiak, but we are still doing the best we have in the team's history. We can be doing better of course, but don't start calling for his head until we hit 2-14 again.

/*sigh*, why can't we ever have an easy schedule?

This team has won on talent alone. There's NO WAY this team should be 5-4. No excuses. And that's the problem really. It's all fine and good in Houston as long as you're not completely gawdawful like the David Carr era. This team has lost THREE games due to fumbles near or around the goal line area (Arizona, J-Ville and the Colts games). This team had absolutely no preparation for a rookie QB (Jets game). And this team didn't even know who the back-up QB was for the 49ers.

If you're OK w/ not completely sucking, so be it, that's totally cool. I'm OK w/ the Rams and Lions filling that spot for us. But just know this team won't be anywhere near its potential as long as Aggie Gary is coaching it.

Un-slide showed:

10 Titans sign Kerry Collins
9 "Patriots Play Hardball"
8 Vikings break the bank for Steve Hutchinson
7 Raiders pass on Matt Leinert
6 Atlanta fails to fix WR problem
5 Cardianls break the bank for Edgerrin James
4 Redskins overspend... again
3 Texans draft Mario Williams (subby's link)
2 Raiders choose Tom Walsh as offensive coordinator
1 Dolphins sign Daunte Culpepper

NEDM:
Dude, I don't know what you have against Kubiak, but we are still doing the best we have in the team's history. We can be doing better of course, but don't start calling for his head until we hit 2-14 again.

/*sigh*, why can't we ever have an easy schedule?

Part of it is the division. You have to pretty much spot the Colts two wins over you a year (although that's starting to turn around), and then generally either the Jags or the Titans are having a big year when the other isn't. So even if you split the six divisional games, you can only lose about three more games to have a shot at a playoff berth.

Once the Texans start winning their division games regularly, they'll start making runs at the playoffs. And they seem to be at that point this year, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a wild card berth. And even though I'm a Colts fan, I would kinda like to see the Texans do well. I much prefer them to Jacksonville or Tennessee.

So whatever happened to the guy that got fired/quit after he drafted Mario?

1. The first few posters in this thread are idiots.
2. SI jumps the gun on a few things here. Including:

#10, as Kerry Collins came through big time for the Titans last year, leading them to the NFL's best regular season record.
#9, as the Patriots ended up destroying everyone in the NFL in 2007.
#8, No idea how Steve Hutchinson has panned out. Anyone know?
#7, Not sure if passing on Leinart was a mistake, but drafting Jamarcus Russel sure as hell was.
#6, Roddy White is not a failure by any means.
#5, This seems true. Edgerrin James wasn't worth all that money. Cards did go to the Super Bowl, but not because of James.
#4, Redskins suck. Good call.
#3, Obviously a great move by the Texans. Turned out to be the right choice.
#2, Yeah, everything the Raiders have done has sucked. Pretty much hard to argue with any of that.
#1, Choosing Culpepper over Brees? Yeah, bad idea.


Well kids, hope you enjoyed yourself as much as I did. Nitey nite!

organizm: 1. The first few posters in this thread are idiots.
2. SI jumps the gun on a few things here. Including:

#10, as Kerry Collins came through big time for the Titans last year, leading them to the NFL's best regular season record.
#9, as the Patriots ended up destroying everyone in the NFL in 2007.
#8, No idea how Steve Hutchinson has panned out. Anyone know?
#7, Not sure if passing on Leinart was a mistake, but drafting Jamarcus Russel sure as hell was.
#6, Roddy White is not a failure by any means.
#5, This seems true. Edgerrin James wasn't worth all that money. Cards did go to the Super Bowl, but not because of James.
#4, Redskins suck. Good call.
#3, Obviously a great move by the Texans. Turned out to be the right choice.
#2, Yeah, everything the Raiders have done has sucked. Pretty much hard to argue with any of that.
#1, Choosing Culpepper over Brees? Yeah, bad idea.


Well kids, hope you enjoyed yourself as much as I did. Nitey nite!

I don't know if you were being sarcastic, but Hutchinson has been a Pro Bowler the last six years (which doesn't mean much) and First team All-Pro 5 out of the last 6 (which means a lot). So basically he's the best guard in the NFL (think: Paving the way for the franchise in Peterson).

* 6× Pro Bowl selection (2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008)
* 5× First-team All-Pro selection (2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008)
* Second-team All-Pro selection (2004)

tallguywithglasseson: Un-slide showed:


4 Redskins overspend... again


And again and again and again.

Theguybehindtheguy: I think everyone knows subby was pointing out the Mario Williams thing. Pointing out the obvious isn't too bright, if you ask me.

Did you actually read the god damn thread? How about at least the post that your quoted followed?
Dogging on the guy for stating what you feel is obvious... when the posts were in response to multiple people NOT seeing what was so obvious to you.
\jfc

Wow, none of that is right...

Here's some other bad moves:

Titans sign Kerry Collins (Led them to a 13-3 season.)
Vikings sign Steve Hutchinson (Best offensive guard in the league.)
Raiders pass on Leinart (Who?)

jcsturgeon: Titans sign Kerry Collins (Led them to a 13-3 season.)
Vikings sign Steve Hutchinson (Best offensive guard in the league.)
Raiders pass on Leinart (Who?)

Yeah, I liked those as well. I'd be curious to find any other lists like this that are made midseason. The only time these comments could be made with certainty would be if a team traded for a player that was then gone at the end of the year... teams don't only make a deal for the immediate impact. (not good ones, anyway)

I love seeing stuff like this - everybody makes predictions, but it seems like they aren't followed up on all that often. On this week's BS report, Simmons played back Jack-O's early season rants about the Yankees where he bashes Rivera, Jeter, and just about everything else associated with the team. Funny stuff.

Now that the cool story bro is done, the better Doh! is them questioning the signing of Kerry Collins in Tennessee. Granted, they didn't win the Superbowl, but they had a pretty good year under Collins last year.

Also, consider this was written near the end of the season, so they already had 13 games of hindsight in their favor.

mjoven1975: FTFA: Yes, New England is 9-4 and will win the AFC East, but that division is a joke this year, and if the Patriots were playing like they should, they would have captured homefield advantage in the AFC playoffs.

Link

The last time the Patriots were 9-4 at any point in the season was 2006.


Submitter is a moran who should DIAF for submitting a link (a slideshow no less!) from Two thousand farking six.


Not very smart, are you?

greentea1985: Yay submitter, for getting a slideshow from 2006 that doesn't start on the 1st slide greenlit. Now the liters can feel the suck.

/Sarcasm off.

No, all the liters actually get the joke and judging from all the TF comments, they just dont.

No sarcasm, TFers are just farking idiots.

organizm: #6, Roddy White is not a failure by any means.

Yeah I loved this line FTFA:

The Falcons have made several moves in the last few years to bolster Michael Vick's receiving corps. They've all been failures. Former first-round picks Michael Jenkins and Roddy White have had way too many drops this season, and the Falcons traded for former Broncos wideout Ashley Lelie, who has also gotten a bad case of the drops.

They all seem to be flourishing under Matt Ryan, it was vick who threw a shiatty ball to catch, thank god hes gone he was a terrible QB, great running back but terrible QB.

It's funny, SI wasn't the only one saying the Texans screwed up. Every UNC fan I know around here went on and on and on and on about what a stupid move it was. Now, not a single one of them admit saying that.

CaptMacMillian: it was the Reggie Bush thing that got people

This I dont understand, reggie is ok but hes not even the leading rusher on his team but hes paid like he is, judging him as a RB hes been a failure given his hype coming out of USC. If it wasnt for his receptions and returns then nobody would be talking about him.

steamingpile: CaptMacMillian: it was the Reggie Bush thing that got people

This I dont understand, reggie is ok but hes not even the leading rusher on his team but hes paid like he is, judging him as a RB hes been a failure given his hype coming out of USC. If it wasnt for his receptions and returns then nobody would be talking about him.

Not saying he's worth the money, but you really can't throw out the receptions and returns because that's part of his value. He's a unique player, and to not count the very things that make him unique is a little unfair.

He's definitely not an every-down back, but he adds a dimension that a lot of people can't. World's most expensive decoy and all that. Not quite worth what the Saints used to get him, but he has his role.

dugitman: greentea1985: Yay submitter, for getting a slideshow from 2006 that doesn't start on the 1st slide greenlit. Now the liters can feel the suck.


I think submitter is specifically pointing out SI's incorrect projection of Mario Williams' long-term impact compared to those other 3 busts.

/not submitter

this X 1000 - they love mario williams in houston