There should be a screening process for couples seeking IVF. If you're a religious person who objects to "wasting" viable embryos in order to further research the technique that you're seeking to get pregnant by, you don't get to use that technology.

And if stem cell research ends up curing cancer, people who opposed the research shouldn't be allowed that treatment if they get cancer.

Faith-based signals are getting scrambled

Now the Potters face the dilemma of what to do with the other embryos.

They could place the embryos in the womb for gestation when they are ready to have more children. Another couple could adopt the embryos. They could donate to science. Or they could thaw the embryos and discard them.



If they decide they don't want any more kids, Option # 2 seems like an excellent solution to me.

Oh, and in keeping with the theme of the thread:

Well, they're undifferentiated blastocysts with no nerve endings, basal ganglia or notochord, so it's hard to get worked up about them. Also, there's a 30% chance they won't even implant, or spontaneously abort for genetic reasons. God's an asshole sometimes.

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Faith-based signals are getting scrambled

Thread ova.

John Coyote: There should be a screening process for couples seeking IVF. If you're a religious person who objects to "wasting" viable embryos in order to further research the technique that you're seeking to get pregnant by, you don't get to use that technology.

And if stem cell research ends up curing cancer, people who opposed the research shouldn't be allowed that treatment if they get cancer.

Yeah, if you are the sort of religious person that opposes abortion and stem cell research you should probably be adopting instead of doing IVF since adoption is the other option besides abortion for an unwanted baby...

John Coyote: There should be a screening process for couples seeking IVF. If you're a religious person who objects to "wasting" viable embryos in order to further research the technique that you're seeking to get pregnant by, you don't get to use that technology.

And if stem cell research ends up curing cancer, people who opposed the research shouldn't be allowed that treatment if they get cancer.

The denying of embryonic stem cell research grants has driven many different groups to turn many other types of cells(skin cells) into better stem cells then what can be produced through embryos. The screening process should be this, can't have kids on your own, adopt.

We benefited from a procedure that came to be via research performed on embryos, but you can go fark yourself if you want to perform research on these other 2 embryos we're not using.

Seriously; religion causes more problems than it solves.

This is the future! You can make babies in a lab! It's time to cast off hokey religions & ancient superstitions.

Balut!

Sounds like the family made a decision basted on good research.

Seriously, though, why didn't these people listen to what God's been telling them and not reproduce? I bet they just birthed the antiChrist, and God's doing a facepalm up in Heaven.

You gotta break some eggs to make an omelette.

Hopefully the Vatican will convert to the sunny side of the argument.

I feel the same philosophical agony when I find a hair with a follicle still attached! Inside that follicle are cells containing all my DNA! Under the proper circumstances each one is a potential baby who will be murdered if I throw it in the trash can!

schattenteufel: It's time to cast off hokey religions & ancient superstitions.

They're not as effective as a good blaster by your side.

hitlersbrain: I feel the same philosophical agony when I find a hair with a follicle still attached! Inside that follicle are cells containing all my DNA! Under the proper circumstances each one is a potential baby who will be murdered if I throw it in the trash can!

Sorry, man, they're already doomed. DOOMED! Murderer.

John Coyote: There should be a screening process for couples seeking IVF. If you're a religious person who objects to "wasting" viable embryos in order to further research the technique that you're seeking to get pregnant by, you don't get to use that technology.

And if stem cell research ends up curing cancer, people who opposed the research shouldn't be allowed that treatment if they get cancer.

Okay, but if we end up with a bunch of soulless abominations roaming the land as empty shells for demonic possession, you guys don't get to go to Heaven. Or borrow the ammunition pouch.

Here is a tip: When your belief system fails to jibe with reality, life and the universe as it is, it does NOT mean that something is wrong with life and the universe as it is

The Angry Hand of God: You gotta break some eggs to make an omelette.

Take faith out of the decision and use logic and reason.

I know logic and reason are bad words for the religious but I think, if you give them a try, they will serve you better than your invisible friend ever has.

Perhaps a decision they should have made before they received the treatment?

These people biatch and scream about abortion, calling the mothers murderers and saying there are other options. But they themselves are not willing to support these other options.

Not a time for yolks, subby.

Dammit, CntrBrdr, you poached my line!

I'm curious how much damage is done the longer the embryo is frozen. At what point is it no longer viable?

Also, with all the orphans in this country and threat of overpopulation looming worldwide, adopt for Christ's sake.

Thisbymaster: The denying of embryonic stem cell research grants has driven many different groups to turn many other types of cells(skin cells) into better stem cells then what can be produced through embryos. The screening process should be this, can't have kids on your own, adopt.

While I'm not a usually a grammar nazi, this is inexcusable. 'Them what there stem cells is what we be talkin' about.'

Oekss: We benefited from a procedure that came to be via research performed on embryos, but you can go fark yourself if you want to perform research on these other 2 embryos we're not using.


Isn't that just a bit hypocritical?

Dude is an idiot. If you are Christian enough to not want human embryos used for a science experiment, you shouldn't have created a whole bunch just so your kid can match your couch. Maybe being infertile was God's way of telling them to actually show some love and take in one or two of the millions of kids without parents instead of building their own in a lab at great cost so that it's their genetic offspring.

A man releases enough sperm cells on a single ejaculation to repopulate the earth if every one of them fertilized an egg.

So if sperm and eggs are potential lives you kill more potential lives everytime you ejacuate(even if 1 of them get the woman preggers) than if you kiled every single actual living person on the planet.

petcat2469: While I'm not a usually a grammar nazi, this is inexcusable. 'Them what there stem cells is what we be talkin' about.'

Grammar Nazi should appreciate some Grammar Eugenics.

You know for once I looked at TFA and don't feel a facepalm coming on.

Giving them to scientists for further research and donating them to other couples who can't do it on their own are both *really* good, useful, altruistic ideas.

If religious dad wanted to be an asshat, perhaps he could try insisting mom use them, divorcing her when she refuses and then holding a full church funeral for them.

Trivia Jockey: Oekss: We benefited from a procedure that came to be via research performed on embryos, but you can go fark yourself if you want to perform research on these other 2 embryos we're not using.


Isn't that just a bit hypocritical?

Oh, you picked up on that too?

Trivia Jockey: Oekss: We benefited from a procedure that came to be via research performed on embryos, but you can go fark yourself if you want to perform research on these other 2 embryos we're not using.


Isn't that just a bit hypocritical?


Upon reflection, if you were speaking as the person in the article and being sarcastic, I missed it and you have my apologies.

I guess I have egg on my face.

yolk yolk yolk

What does Pope Benedict have to say?

vernonFL: What does Pope Benedict Palpatine have to say?

FTFY

This just in! Religion and science don't mix!

ಠ_ಠ

We're all going to Shell over this one.

Oldiron_79: A man releases enough sperm cells on a single ejaculation to repopulate the earth

I have created and destroyed universes.

vernonFL: What does Pope Benedict have to say?

Don't break the sauce.

vernonFL: What does Pope Benedict have to say?

Hollandaise sauce. Yum.

Shrinkwrap: Oldiron_79: A man releases enough sperm cells on a single ejaculation to repopulate the earth

I have created and destroyed universes.

I've killed so many that the Jedi will feel it.

Oekss: Trivia Jockey: Oekss: We benefited from a procedure that came to be via research performed on embryos, but you can go fark yourself if you want to perform research on these other 2 embryos we're not using.


Isn't that just a bit hypocritical?

Oh, you picked up on that too?

Come on people, being Christian is synonymous with being a hypocrite.

On the other hand, we should all stop having kids.
Over 6 billion people on the planet is too much already.

"As thousands of frozen embryos continue to accumulate..."

Jesus Christ, what if they start to organize?

vernonFL: What does Pope Eggs Benedict have to say?

This is deviled research!

old_toole: On the other hand, we should all stop having kids.
Over 6 billion people on the planet is too much already.

yeah, I don't see it happening. The only way to reduce popuation will be a large scale war and people getting killed, people won't stop breeding.