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(Yahoo) Stupid 12-year-old girl suspended from school for piercing her nose, which perfectly normal in India, not as normal in Utah as multiple moms   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 127
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Soumac [TotalFark] 2009-11-09 01:22:56 AM  
I bet that heathen doesn't even OWN magic underpants.

 
Asmenoth 2009-11-09 02:09:11 AM  
What, did she pierce her nose AT school?

 
Vertdang 2009-11-09 02:09:29 AM  
I had to read that headline 4 times before it looked like a complete sentence.
I kept thinking there should be something after "multiple moms"

/should have read as HAVING multiple moms.

 
startan3 2009-11-09 02:12:03 AM  
Oh Utah, my lovely state, how you never cease to make me ashamed to live here.

 
Trick E. Dick 2009-11-09 02:16:01 AM  
Things like this tend to upset me. Even if the girl wasn't Indian- what's so farking wrong about a simple nostril piercing on a kid? I understand Utah has solved all their other problems and can focus on these sorts of things, but really?

/I like curry.
//and piercings.

 
Erom 2009-11-09 02:21:02 AM  
"I wanted to feel more closer to my family in India because I really love my family," said Suzannah

bull shiat. I don't care what her background is, she did it because she thought it looked cool, she was just lucky enough to come up with a good enough excuse to convince her father it was ok. But it is a pretty silly school policy to ban body piercing. Who farking cares?

 
Savoir-Faire 2009-11-09 02:21:30 AM  
Pedobear must be excited about the 12-year-old girl trifecta in play.

 
fanbladesaresharp 2009-11-09 02:22:43 AM  
Erom: "I wanted to feel more closer to my family in India because I really love my family," said Suzannah

bull shiat. I don't care what her background is, she did it because she thought it looked cool, she was just lucky enough to come up with a good enough excuse to convince her father it was ok. But it is a pretty silly school policy to ban body piercing. Who farking cares?


The ones that suspended her. Next up, tramp stamp.

 
nkntr [TotalFark] 2009-11-09 02:23:01 AM  
You would think that nose rings would be widely accepted by the polygamists there... slip a length of chain through them, and *pow* you have yourself a fantastic organizational tool to keep all those wives together, organized, and totally manageable. And just a little, friendly yank on that chain, and you have their full and undivided attention. Seems quite counter-intuitive to ban them.

 
IShouldKnowBetter 2009-11-09 02:23:05 AM  
I really don't see much of a difference between a kid going to school with pierced ears and a kid going to school with a pierced nose.

 
crm114 2009-11-09 02:33:34 AM  
Vertdang: I had to read that headline 4 times before it looked like a complete sentence.
I kept thinking there should be something after "multiple moms"

/should have read as HAVING multiple moms.


I thought it was a typo headline but I get it now, it's not really funny, but I get it...

 
farkingismybusiness 2009-11-09 02:36:32 AM  
Time to post hot Indian broads!

 
Oakland A's FTW! 2009-11-09 02:50:28 AM  
Utah tag yet?

 
Oznog [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-11-09 03:06:31 AM  
Singh said people frequently ask him why he wears a turban. "Sometimes it can be a burden to explain that," he said.

"Most people presume I'm an immigrant, a foreigner," he continued. "As a child of immigrants, you often don't feel fully American. The presumption is that you are somehow foreign to a core American identity. You always feel a little bit of an outsider, even in your own country."


You wear a Sikh turban because you want to identify as an Indian Sikh and represent yourself as an Indian Sikh to everyone you meet. So you don't seem to WANT to be "fully American", and stand outside the mainstream American culture. Why is this troubling you??

 
bingethinker [TotalFark] 2009-11-09 03:12:05 AM  
Time to post hot Indian broads!

Don't call them broads, man. Chicks hate that!

 
cmunic8r99 [TotalFark] 2009-11-09 03:12:57 AM  
i'm surprised anyone with an internet connection and is capable of even a little bit of research would consider Utah part of the "melting pot".

It's more like the part "where the crusty, icky crap burns to the side of the pot."

 
Uchiha_Cycliste [TotalFark] 2009-11-09 03:23:58 AM  
bingethinker: Time to post hot Indian broads!

Don't call them broads, man. Chicks hate that!


Well how bout a hot piece of ass?

 
sprawl15 2009-11-09 03:27:29 AM  
www.independent.co.uk

Approves of the headline.

 
This About That [TotalFark] 2009-11-09 03:41:10 AM  
I wouldn't exactly describe that as a "US-Indian" culture clash.

 
upright_apes_r_us 2009-11-09 03:55:35 AM  
Where is the ACLU and the free speech suit.
There is no way a nose ring can make a tangible impact on the educational process.

I'm aware that the Mormans write school policy to be comparable with their faith without proper respect to other people.

Morman's defend their church in all their ignorance.
They claim they do Gods work and they also send missionaries. Biblically Christ however told his apostles that if the people in a town didn't want to hear them to leave. Christ's teachings do not call for anyone to pressure others to believe as he did. Mormans however think it is their job to save people. A quick biblical check does not list Mormans as the savior. They ignore that biblically Christ came to call his people, the rest he left to their own devices. They often claim the bible could be wrong and they defend their church as if a church had the power to save one single soul.

Joesph Smith was hired by a neighbor to find gold on his property. None was found but the idea of finding gold was in his mind. He later claimed to find gold plates after being lead by a angel. In Smith's time Napoleon's men found the Rosetta stone and people learn to read and transcribe the hieroglyphics of old Egypt. Smith then claimed he transcribes hieroglyphics on the plates he claims he found. Smith having no such training claims a stone did it, sound failure. The see threw seer stone, Urim and Thummim, did it automatically. Then Mormans claim he turned the Book of Morman out so quickly and one can tell it is inspired by it reading. Well when put side by side with the Old testament strange similarities exist. Some of the verses are identical right down to the verse number. It is a bit like drag net the names we changed to protect..... That would also explain a inspired feel to the words. Now another problem arises, the text is in Shakespearean style English like the KJV . While it is true that some ministers try to speak in that style as if it makes them sound more holy it is not the original bible style. Also People in the 1800 didn't speak as such. A movement was ongoing at that time to rewrite the Bible in a more modern tongue. There was no reason on Earth or in Heaven for a angel to direct Smith to write in a style that was time relevant to a period 400 years earlier. The idiot Bible thumpers that hold to the Shakespearean style of English like God wrote in that style to form the KJV, lend to show a trait of fraud in the speech and written text that have followed since. Good thing they didn't just have a German bible or they would be making up prayers in Germanic language and quoting the style as holy. Then there is the DNA problem, Smith claimed the Indians are descendants from the Israelites. No such DNA has ever been found, even when digging up ancient graves in the Americas. Officially the Mormans seek to clean it up by claiming that the tribe must have died off. Evidently the "dead" Israelites/Indians had the ability to cart off their dead and hide them so no one could find them. Maybe it was their magic under ware. If such bull was true one could claim we in America killed off more descendants of Israel then Hitler while populating the Americas with European descendants.

Mormans will still stand there and testify that the Morman church is the true church. They also claim who ever they elect as a leader of the church is a Prophet. WOW that is some election.

That is why I find Mormanism obnoxious, wrong headed and mormans to lack basic creditability and the church to be rooted in fraud.

 
Gish21 2009-11-09 03:56:29 AM  
Oznog:
You wear a Sikh turban because you want to identify as an Indian Sikh and represent yourself as an Indian Sikh to everyone you meet. So you don't seem to WANT to be "fully American", and stand outside the mainstream American culture. Why is this troubling you??


The turban is not a social custom, it is a requirement of the Sikh religion. They are not allowed to cut their hair in their religion and the turban is necessary..

 
whereisthebox 2009-11-09 03:56:45 AM  
This exact thing happened to my gf when she was in middle school (we're both South Asian American). The Vice Principal took her to the office, the gf complained and said it's a cultural thing (which it is), the principal agreed and sent her on her way.

Kinda funny, the guy they quote (Amardeep Singh) is a frequent poster on this blog I haven't read or thought about in years.

 
baddogg 2009-11-09 03:57:38 AM  
20 years ago, maybe... big hoop nipple rings were the thing so you could see them through material. G-strings and low riders so you could see the butt crack so you could see it. Tramp stamps and high cut shirts/low cut jeans so you could see it. Navel piercings, can't see 'em; so what? Now nose piercings are so common and innocuous; why the stir? The small studs are pretty much invisible and harmless. In this case a cultural thing; maybe, maybe not. I've got better things to do than dramify her. The school should apologize and that should be that. OMG! a nose ring?

 
lohphat 2009-11-09 03:59:20 AM  
It's a free country.

You should be free to pierce and tatt yourself out of the employment pool.

 
Indolent [TotalFark] 2009-11-09 04:00:07 AM  
IShouldKnowBetter: I really don't see much of a difference between a kid going to school with pierced ears and a kid going to school with a pierced nose.

She could sneeze and put someone's eye out. I'm sure the royal society for the prevention of accidents would approve of the school's decision.

 
jimmyschmidt 2009-11-09 04:18:06 AM  
Suzannah, Savannah? Potato, I'm outta here!

 
Trick E. Dick 2009-11-09 04:22:02 AM  
Indolent: She could sneeze and put someone's eye out. I'm sure the royal society for the prevention of accidents would approve of the school's decision.

You're horribly wrong. There's a physics lesson you obviously missed... but:

FTFA: ...compromised and said she could wear a clear, unobtrusive stud in her nose, and Suzannah returned to her seventh-grade class.

Even if you were correct (which you aren't), are you implying that a piece of jewelry that is clear wouldn't carry this risk? Or did you just not read the article?

/hope you're trolling.

 
darthgarlic 2009-11-09 04:52:08 AM  
Trick E. Dick must have missed the humor classes Fark gives.


-12-year-old girl suspended from school for piercing her nose/

/Yes because we must all be the same. Now put the white sheet over your head, grab that gasoline and follow me to the cross burnin.

 
lilplatinum [TotalFark] 2009-11-09 05:12:52 AM  
So many chicks in here get these stupid things and they just look ridiculous.

But then again, looking ridiculous is one of those things you should be doing at 12 rather than 30, so why punish kids for being kids.

 
Elektrohed 2009-11-09 05:19:36 AM  
lilplatinum: So many chicks in here get these stupid things and they just look ridiculous.

But then again, looking ridiculous is one of those things you should be doing at 12 rather than 30, so why punish kids for being kids.


Disagree. Indian girls look hot with nose piercings, end of story. :)

/ Huge fan

 
No Such Agency 2009-11-09 05:35:46 AM  
nkntr:
You would think that nose rings would be widely accepted by the polygamists there... slip a length of chain through them, and *pow* you have yourself a fantastic organizational tool to keep all those wives together, organized, and totally manageable.

Religion was INVENTED so you didn't need a chain to keep people in line.

Oznog:
You wear a Sikh turban because you want to identify as an Indian Sikh and represent yourself as an Indian Sikh to everyone you meet. So you don't seem to WANT to be "fully American", and stand outside the mainstream American culture. Why is this troubling you??

SRSLY? You think wearing a Sikh turban make someone not "fully American"? Perhaps if he was wearing a sleeveless NASCAR t-shirt and a Git-R-Done trucker cap he would be more to your liking... or maybe not, since he can't change the colour of his skin.

 
shivashakti [TotalFark] 2009-11-09 05:43:22 AM  
Oznog: You wear a Sikh turban because you want to identify as an Indian Sikh and represent yourself as an Indian Sikh to everyone you meet. So you don't seem to WANT to be "fully American", and stand outside the mainstream American culture. Why is this troubling you??

Why can't you be "fully American" and be a Sikh and wear a turban?
Plenty of Sikhs are born here in the US. Doesn't that make them as American as anyone else?

 
Sodium Benzoate 2009-11-09 05:58:52 AM  
It's commonly accepted that most decisions made in Utah are bad ones.

 
ShannonKW 2009-11-09 06:05:22 AM  
nkntr: You would think that nose rings would be widely accepted by the polygamists there... slip a length of chain through them, and *pow* you have yourself a fantastic organizational tool to keep all those wives together, organized, and totally manageable. And just a little, friendly yank on that chain, and you have their full and undivided attention. Seems quite counter-intuitive to ban them.

Psshhh... Armchair polygamist.

There are two proven approaches to ensuring harmony amongst the wimminfolk:

1) Get each wife her own place. Being rich helps, but there are economical alternatives that bring polygamy withing the reach of the middle class. A student of mine in Pakistan turned his 2-story house into a duplex when he married his 2nd. One has the top and the other has the bottom. Instant peace.

2) Involve them in cooperative child care. Works especially well when one wife can't have children. A friend of the family took a 2nd wife when his first proved infertile. She now helps care for the children, which makes her a boon to the wife #2 and the kids love her to death.

Tying women together by the nose sounds like it'd work as well as throwing cats in a bag--no peace there! (Scary to watch too, no doubt.)

 
BWillyBeast 2009-11-09 06:35:42 AM  
nkntr: You would think that nose rings would be widely accepted by the polygamists there... slip a length of chain through them, and *pow* you have yourself a fantastic organizational tool to keep all those wives together, organized, and totally manageable. And just a little, friendly yank on that chain, and you have their full and undivided attention. Seems quite counter-intuitive to ban them.

Roflmao - are you always this accurate?

 
Ball of Confusion 2009-11-09 06:37:57 AM  
fanbladesaresharp: Erom: "I wanted to feel more closer to my family in India because I really love my family," said Suzannah

bull shiat. I don't care what her background is, she did it because she thought it looked cool, she was just lucky enough to come up with a good enough excuse to convince her father it was ok. But it is a pretty silly school policy to ban body piercing. Who farking cares?

The ones that suspended her. Next up, tramp stamp.



Exactly THIS. Which one of you morans keeps telling chicks that they look better with metal sticking out of their face? STOP IT. YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT IT. THEY DO NOT.

 
Vangor 2009-11-09 06:44:36 AM  
To other Indians, the incident was emblematic of how it can still be difficult for the American melting pot to absorb certain aspects of their cultural and religious traditions.

Except for, of course, how the suspension was brief and a compromise was reached, thus demonstrating an ability to absorb certain aspects of cultural and religious traditions. To absorb, one needs to add first. While I do not approve of dress codes, I doubt anyone feeling the above would suggest students could freely identify as expressing an Indian heritage in order to subvert the dress code and thus dilute said heritage.

Oznog: You wear a Sikh turban because you want to identify as an Indian Sikh and represent yourself as an Indian Sikh to everyone you meet. So you don't seem to WANT to be "fully American", and stand outside the mainstream American culture. Why is this troubling you??

Nice to express your ignorance so resoundingly. What is mainstream American culture? Is this where Americans chide everyone else for representing anything besides the stars and bars because we are the greatest nation on Earth due to our jingoism and ethnocentrism? No, this cannot be right...

Frankly, being comfortable enough to live here while expressing cultural, religious, etc., identities and accept others doing likewise is American culture. America is not a great nation because our culture is somehow superior but because we divest ourselves from needing to conform to an identity which is national in a traditional sense, rather this is conceptual.

 
Not All That Much 2009-11-09 06:48:43 AM  
Savoir-Faire: Pedobear must be excited about the 12-year-old girl trifecta in play.

Came here for this. Leaving satisfied.

 
betona 2009-11-09 06:52:36 AM  
Nose piercing is one I really don't get.

One, the pain has to be excruciating. As a kid, nose zits hurt like hell.

Two, what about the snot & boogers? I just know it'd shoot out the side when I'd blow my nose. I could see a comedy skit of that...

 
foo monkey 2009-11-09 06:57:39 AM  
Soooooooo, she violated the dress code?

 
mndoria 2009-11-09 07:08:50 AM  
The US will never cease to dig itself deeper into a hole of superior morality. As an American, I am disgusted over the constant battle of whose religion/culture/mobile service provider is better than everyone else's. If the girl wants a 3rd nostril, fine. Because at the end of the day, she has to live with it, not me.

 
abigsmurf 2009-11-09 07:09:01 AM  
Nose piercing is cultural, not religious. There shouldn't be any exceptions on that grounds. ALL clothing is cultural. To make special dispensation for some cultures and not others is discriminatory.

 
Seasons I'v Withered 2009-11-09 07:11:02 AM  
bingethinker: Time to post hot Indian broads!

Don't call them broads, man. Chicks biatches hate that!


Fixed

 
GORDON 2009-11-09 07:30:36 AM  
crm114: Vertdang: I had to read that headline 4 times before it looked like a complete sentence.
I kept thinking there should be something after "multiple moms"

/should have read as HAVING multiple moms.

I thought it was a typo headline but I get it now, it's not really funny, but I get it...


Exactly. Utah polygamy jokes are about as clever and fresh as southern redneck jokes.

Let's get some new jokes in here, people. It's not even ironically funny any more.

 
fireclown [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-11-09 07:33:37 AM  
farkingismybusiness: Time to post hot Indian broads!

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Not sure that I understand your post. Is this what you are talking about?
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xanadian [TotalFark] 2009-11-09 07:39:05 AM  
upright_apes_r_us: Morman's defend their church in all their ignorance.
They claim they do Gods work and they also send missionaries. Biblically Christ however told his apostles that if the people in a town didn't want to hear them to leave. Christ's teachings do not call for anyone to pressure others to believe as he did. Mormans however think it is their job to save people.


Well, you know what that means, right? Mormans aren't really Christians. Rather, they aren't really disciples of Jesus.

/something about "Lord! Lord!" or other...

 
give me doughnuts [TotalFark] 2009-11-09 07:41:59 AM  
Call it "cultural" all you want, but nose piercing (like ear piercing) is a fashion statement.

 
Clock Spider Jerusalem 2009-11-09 07:56:55 AM  
Oznog: Singh said people frequently ask him why he wears a turban. "Sometimes it can be a burden to explain that," he said.

"Most people presume I'm an immigrant, a foreigner," he continued. "As a child of immigrants, you often don't feel fully American. The presumption is that you are somehow foreign to a core American identity. You always feel a little bit of an outsider, even in your own country."

You wear a Sikh turban because you want to identify as an Indian Sikh and represent yourself as an Indian Sikh to everyone you meet. So you don't seem to WANT to be "fully American", and stand outside the mainstream American culture. Why is this troubling you??


Indian guy with a turban who participates in a normal life that is fully integrated with mainstream American society is a lot more normal that a Hasidic Jew who dresses completely odd from head to toe and refuses to integrate with anything except deli line ups.

Someone go tell the Amish and Mennonites to smarten the hell up and like normal Americans too. And knock it off with the quilts, they can buy their bedding from Walmart like everyone else.

 
THX 1138 2009-11-09 08:10:02 AM  
abigsmurf: ALL clothing is cultural. To make special dispensation for some cultures and not others is discriminatory.

fibers.com

 
InfernalCatfish 2009-11-09 08:36:45 AM  
There is absolutely no difference between "cultural choices" and "religious requirements." If culture is a choice, then so is religion. You can abandon both your culture and your religion, or you can adopt another culture or religion. So, what's the difference between this "cultural" piercing violating the body piercing ban and the "religious" yamaka that THX posted above violating a hat ban? NOTHING, and if the piercing or yamaka is against the code of the workplace/school, neither should be allowed.

 
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