Regardless, it was a better fight than i expected from the fish. As of late it seemed that the Dolphins record wasn't indicative of what they are able to do up until i watched last week's game with the Saints. I will admit i was a bit doubtful that the Patriots would win today.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you don't run your mouth, especially if you have a bullet scar on your ass.

\not to mention that there were a few times that it was pointed out today that Brady DIDN'T get a call he wanted....
\\amazing what happens when you're looking for it

Got to hand it to the Phins, they show up to play every matchup. Typically they do it by being physical and outside the box playcalling. That would be the action. Porter chose to use words instead.

Kind of reminds you of a saying that compares the relative value of action and words, huh?

/Go Pats!

FriarReb98: And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you don't run your mouth, especially if you have a bullet scar on your ass.

\not to mention that there were a few times that it was pointed out today that Brady DIDN'T get a call he wanted....
\\amazing what happens when you're looking for it

Well, yeah, now that the league got blasted for it...

/sorry, that's just what you're going to hear bringing that up, I don't care either way
//November 30

Holy crap, There was a guy named porter on the field? could have fooled me...

IKanHazaBukkit: Regardless, it was a better fight than i expected from the fish. As of late it seemed that the Dolphins record wasn't indicative of what they are able to do up until i watched last week's game with the Saints. I will admit i was a bit doubtful that the Patriots would win today.

I wanted to make a comment earlier, but there were 0 comments and I didn't want to be the one to break the chain. Kudos to you, IKanHazaBukkit, for being a better man than I.

Porter is an ass but I respect the rest of the Miami team and what they are building there. So I was expecting a tough game.

Remember that video of Joey and a bunch of his thugs jumping Levi Brown from behind in that casino. He probably deserved that bullet in his ass, probably deserved worse.

In Porter's defense, Brady does play under a different set of rules than the rest of the league. He wasn't wrong about that. He's still an arsehole, though, but so is Brady, so I guess it all evens out in the end.

The next three games the Pats play should be awesome.

Colts
Jets
Saints

wow.

dgc360: The next three games the Pats play should be awesome.

Colts
Jets
Saints

wow.

Go Pats! (next week only...hopefully the Jets take them down again so they come into the Dome majorly discouraged)

Subby sounds bitter that his fantasy didn't work out.

I heard that the Dolphins are using this new kind of offense. Wild dog, wild card, something like that. It was just mentioned in passing by someone on some sports show, and never talked about again. Anyone hear about this?

jake_lex: I heard that the Dolphins are using this new kind of offense. Wild dog, wild card, something like that. It was just mentioned in passing by someone on some sports show, and never talked about again. Anyone hear about this?

No i didnt hear more about it myself. But I often wonder how offenses were run before they allowed the forward pass...

/its not new.
//Broadcasters are morons.

jake_lex: I heard that the Dolphins are using this new kind of offense. Wild dog, wild card, something like that. It was just mentioned in passing by someone on some sports show, and never talked about again. Anyone hear about this?

I'm wondering when some submitter is going to come up with a gem like WildFAIL. Or WildLOLcat. I wouldn't know, I don't submit or get to see threads that aren't greenlit.
Pats get called for more egregious penalties than anyone. People don't realize it because they make things up to try to explain how the Pats consistently beat their team.
/It's because your team farking sucks. Get over it.
//too many words

PirateFreedom: Remember that video of Joey and a bunch of his thugs jumping Levi Brown from behind in that casino. He probably deserved that bullet in his ass, probably deserved worse.

I had not previously heard about that that. Here is the video (new window)

joey porter is a piece of street trash who gives black guys a bad name. sorry. he's just the worst kind of jaw-jacker, never knowing when to shut up, always speaking louder than his talent level, and just generally being a nuisance. i really wish that guy had gone to buffalo or st louis so he could have faded into obscurity instead of having a wide audience of media to continue to run his dumbass mouth to.

that said, Go Pats! i'll be so torn in a couple weeks when the saints play the pats, i don't know who to root for. new england raised and southern praised, it's a struggle. might have to flip a coin.

/great jorb, joey, you hack

Nana's Vibrator: jake_lex: I heard that the Dolphins are using this new kind of offense. Wild dog, wild card, something like that. It was just mentioned in passing by someone on some sports show, and never talked about again. Anyone hear about this?

I'm wondering when some submitter is going to come up with a gem like WildFAIL. Or WildLOLcat. I wouldn't know, I don't submit or get to see threads that aren't greenlit.
Pats get called for more egregious penalties than anyone. People don't realize it because they make things up to try to explain how the Pats consistently beat their team.
/It's because your team farking sucks. Get over it.
//too many words

During the game I'm pretty sure they mentioned that the Pats lead the league in roughing the passer penalties, so it looks like the Brady Rule doesn't benefit the Pats so much

And I don't care how often the Dolphins run the Wildcat Offense, since they are only 3-5 using it. I'm just happy that New England looked solid today. They are beating the teams they should and teams that are their equal. I can't wait for the Pats/Saints game.

robsul82: dgc360: The next three games the Pats play should be awesome.

Colts
Jets
Saints

wow.

Go Pats! (next week only...hopefully the Jets take them down again so they come into the Dome majorly discouraged)

If your a saints fan, you might want to look at Belichick record, in games following a loss.

joey porter did have at least one nice play in which he forced brady out of the pocket and made him make a bad pass. in fact, I think porter hit him on the arm and knocked him down alright. so what im saying is, is that stats dont say everything about the effectiveness of a player on the field.fark the broncos but if champ bailey gets zero stats, does that not say a lot about the CB?

Why Would I Read the Article: In Porter's defense, Brady does play under a different set of rules than the rest of the league. He wasn't wrong about that. He's still an arsehole, though, but so is Brady, so I guess it all evens out in the end.

Yeah - Brady is such a jerk...all the jerky things he does....

Let me list them:
1) Wins
2) Is popular with the ladies
3) Doesnt talk trash - i just hate that
4) Had a GF leave him and THEN he is told about the pregnancy
5) Makes tons of cash
6) Makes less than he is able to (ala reworked contract 2x) so more money can be used to shop for support

the list could go on

poisonedpawn78: jake_lex: I heard that the Dolphins are using this new kind of offense. Wild dog, wild card, something like that. It was just mentioned in passing by someone on some sports show, and never talked about again. Anyone hear about this?

No i didnt hear more about it myself. But I often wonder how offenses were run before they allowed the forward pass...

/its not new.
//Broadcasters are morons.

I don't think the Dolphins have the personnel overall to run an offense that includes the forward pass.

Maybe the Wildcat was a neat gimmick at one point, but I think it shows the utter lack of confidence that the Miami coaching staff/management have in both Chad Henne & that receiving corps. They are running the Wildcat because they are unable to run anything else with the players that they have.

I think Henne might even be a good starter for a number of teams, but he's clearly not the guy for Miami... not the way they are using him & throwing him into no-win situations. Sit the QB down for a couple plays, send him back in for 3rd and 15?

I know Miami fans are saying, "We just need to sign a WR who can catch" (the ones who haven't thrown Henne under the bus for the losses, anyway)... but what quality veteran WR in their right mind would play for this offensive coordinator?

BrotherMalcolm: Why Would I Read the Article: In Porter's defense, Brady does play under a different set of rules than the rest of the league. He wasn't wrong about that. He's still an arsehole, though, but so is Brady, so I guess it all evens out in the end.

Yeah - Brady is such a jerk...all the jerky things he does....

Let me list them:
1) Wins
2) Is popular with the ladies
3) Doesnt talk trash - i just hate that
4) Had a GF leave him and THEN he is told about the pregnancy
5) Makes tons of cash
6) Makes less than he is able to (ala reworked contract 2x) so more money can be used to shop for support

the list could go on

All you said is true but for some reason Brady comes across as a boring douche bag.

BrotherMalcolm: Why Would I Read the Article: In Porter's defense, Brady does play under a different set of rules than the rest of the league. He wasn't wrong about that. He's still an arsehole, though, but so is Brady, so I guess it all evens out in the end.

Yeah - Brady is such a jerk...all the jerky things he does....

Let me list them:
1) Wins
2) Is popular with the ladies
3) Doesnt talk trash - i just hate that
4) Had a GF leave him and THEN he is told about the pregnancy
5) Makes tons of cash
6) Makes less than he is able to (ala reworked contract 2x) so more money can be used to shop for support

the list could go on

seriously. as far as earning the douche lable, all he's really done is whup up on some butthurt fans's teams year after year. guy's pretty much an unselfish class act, and exactly the type of player any coach would probably want on their team. i really don't give a shiat that half the fans outside of new england love to hate on him. it's kinda funny, kind of like pats's fans irrational hate of manning

robsul82: Go Pats! (next week only...hopefully the Jets take them down again so they come into the Dome majorly discouraged)

Don't make the Pats majorly discouraged. You wouldn't like them when they're majorly discouraged...

But seriously, I'd think as a Saints fan you'd want the Pats coming into the game thinking they are all that and the proverbial bag of chips. If they lose to the Jets they'll be pretty pissed off and focused, but if they beat the piss out of the Jets they might start believing the hype and become ripe for the picking.

/Hope the maintenance staff at the Dome has ordered a lot of extra bulbs for the scoreboard
//Does that thing go to triple digits?

skinink: Nana's Vibrator: jake_lex: I heard that the Dolphins are using this new kind of offense. Wild dog, wild card, something like that. It was just mentioned in passing by someone on some sports show, and never talked about again. Anyone hear about this?

I'm wondering when some submitter is going to come up with a gem like WildFAIL. Or WildLOLcat. I wouldn't know, I don't submit or get to see threads that aren't greenlit.
Pats get called for more egregious penalties than anyone. People don't realize it because they make things up to try to explain how the Pats consistently beat their team.
/It's because your team farking sucks. Get over it.
//too many words

During the game I'm pretty sure they mentioned that the Pats lead the league in roughing the passer penalties, so it looks like the Brady Rule doesn't benefit the Pats so much

And I don't care how often the Dolphins run the Wildcat Offense, since they are only 3-5 using it. I'm just happy that New England looked solid today. They are beating the teams they should and teams that are their equal. I can't wait for the Pats/Saints game.

IRT the bolded part ... Those that squawk on fark about how horrible the Patriots were/are/will be rarely let facts get in the way. They'll just ignore that detail and rail on about how much favoritism the Pats receive from the league.

IRT the Wildcat ... works great every now & again. But if a team is relying on it to work for a full game, I don't know if will work week in/week out, at least not with the personnel that Miami currently employs.

fark_me_running: seriously. as far as earning the douche lable, all he's really done is whup up on some butthurt fans's teams year after year. guy's pretty much an unselfish class act, and exactly the type of player any coach would probably want on their team. i really don't give a shiat that half the fans outside of new england love to hate on him. it's kinda funny, kind of like pats's fans irrational hate of manning

I'm a Pats fan and I think Peyton Manning is great. I want him to lose when he's playing New England, and to finish with one less win on the season, but he's a spectacular talent. The Colts and Patriots have played some great games in the Manning/Brady era.

..unless you meant Eli, screw him.

/I've also always loved the Saints since the Pat Swilling/Ricky Jackson days. I'm going to be somewhat torn when the Pats play them.

fark_me_running: BrotherMalcolm: Why Would I Read the Article: In Porter's defense, Brady does play under a different set of rules than the rest of the league. He wasn't wrong about that. He's still an arsehole, though, but so is Brady, so I guess it all evens out in the end.

Yeah - Brady is such a jerk...all the jerky things he does....

Let me list them:
1) Wins
2) Is popular with the ladies
3) Doesnt talk trash - i just hate that
4) Had a GF leave him and THEN he is told about the pregnancy
5) Makes tons of cash
6) Makes less than he is able to (ala reworked contract 2x) so more money can be used to shop for support

the list could go on

seriously. as far as earning the douche lable, all he's really done is whup up on some butthurt fans's teams year after year. guy's pretty much an unselfish class act, and exactly the type of player any coach would probably want on their team. i really don't give a shiat that half the fans outside of new england love to hate on him. it's kinda funny, kind of like pats's fans irrational hate of manning

I think its because Brady (and Peyton) both just come out and destroy secondaries. They don't really show emotion, they don't really appear to struggle, they just come out and make your back 7 look like chumps. For some reason a lot of people seem to equate emotionless precision passing with disrepect.

I hate Brady. Not because he is a jerk, not because he is a pretty boy, not because of the ticky-tack roughing penalties, but because of that damn Super Bowl against the Panthers.

I love having him for my fantasy QB! He's a beast. Started rough, but is prospering!

He's a good guy playing on an excellent team. What I hate most is the constant media fellating of the guy...but that's not his fault.

/jealousy...

Whatever. Joey Porter is the past and next year he'll be gone. Wake and Roth are decent OLBs, all Miami needs is competent safety play to be a really good defense for the next ten years.

What gets overlooked between the wildcat and the playoff run is that Miami is incredibly young. The oldest WR, and the most dependable, is Greg Camarillo, who's been a starter for two years. Ginn is in his third year, Bess his second, and the other two WRs are rookies. Both cornerbacks are rookies, most of the D-line were rookies last year, as were the RT and LG, the tight end. Oh, and the quarterback.

Fish fans just have to be patient, the team has been completely rebuilt after the destruction wrought by Cameron, Saban, and Wannstedt.

Oops, I meant LT and RG, but even so.
Also, the spectacular Dan Carpenter is in his second year, the punter is in his third.
My point is the team is still young.

macadamnut: Fish fans just have to be patient, the team has been completely rebuilt after the destruction wrought by Cameron, Saban, and Wannstedt.

Yup. They've been surprisingly competitive against some very good teams this year.

/Hire Pennington as a QB coach.

Why Would I Read the Article: In Porter's defense, Brady does play under a different set of rules than the rest of the league. He wasn't wrong about that. He's still an arsehole, though, but so is Brady, so I guess it all evens out in the end.


It's not just Brady, it's all quarterbacks. These are the same "Michael Jordon Rules" of a decade ago reapplied for football. People don't want to see Jordan on the bench with 2 minutes to go. The NFL doesn't want to see the most important player on the team taking hard (usually defenseless) hits.

Any time Porter runs his mouth, bet your money against the Dolphins.

Remember a couple years ago when he said he would "Guarantee a win" against the Raiders and they curbstomped the Fins?

InferiousX: Any time Porter runs his mouth, bet your money against the Dolphins.

Remember a couple years ago when he said he would "Guarantee a win" against the Raiders and they curbstomped the Fins?

He actually did deliver on his trash talk last year in Foxboro. He said, "Matt Cassel is not Matt Brady," which he wasn't.
Unfortunately he turned into Matt Brady the next time he played the Fins, and Porter screwed us over with some stupid fourth-quarter penalty, which he has also done twice this year...
Basically he needs to blow out his knee again.

mrtoadswildride: Why Would I Read the Article: In Porter's defense, Brady does play under a different set of rules than the rest of the league. He wasn't wrong about that. He's still an arsehole, though, but so is Brady, so I guess it all evens out in the end.


It's not just Brady, it's all quarterbacks. These are the same "Michael Jordon Rules" of a decade ago reapplied for football. People don't want to see Jordan on the bench with 2 minutes to go. The NFL doesn't want to see the most important player on the team taking hard (usually defenseless) hits.

While I somewhat agree that it's not to the NFL's advantage to lose star players at any position, I disagree that they make up rules as a direct result of that fear of lost ratings or revenue. They make rules to prevent unnecessary injuries to players who are exposed or vulnerable to unnecessary shots.

Long before the Brady Rule came into effect, the league has banned spearing (lunging helmet first) high/low double engagement, clipping (blocks on the back outside of the tackle zone), blocks below the waist during any change of possession, and crackback blocks.

Believe me, Ray Lewis and Joey Porter are still playing today only because of these rules, and it infuriates me anytime they talk about special rules for QB's - although it delights me when they lose games and blame it on something other than themselves.

/How do I reach the keeeeeeeds?

ha-ha-guy: I think its because Brady (and Peyton) both just come out and destroy secondaries. They don't really show emotion, they don't really appear to struggle, they just come out and make your back 7 look like chumps. For some reason a lot of people seem to equate emotionless precision passing with disrespect.

that is perfectly said.

Porter wasn't in on any plays because they were avoiding him because he's so dangerous. It wasn't his fault; he was given the Deion Sanders treatment. Yeah, something like that.

macadamnut: InferiousX: Any time Porter runs his mouth, bet your money against the Dolphins.

Remember a couple years ago when he said he would "Guarantee a win" against the Raiders and they curbstomped the Fins?

He actually did deliver on his trash talk last year in Foxboro. He said, "Matt Cassel is not Matt Brady," which he wasn't.
Unfortunately he turned into Matt Brady the next time he played the Fins, and Porter screwed us over with some stupid fourth-quarter penalty, which he has also done twice this year...
Basically he needs to blow out his knee again.

No need - his hammy has already limited him to the point where even this coaching staff (which makes moves at a glacial pace) is starting to limit his plays. Wake was getting nice pressure on Brady, but there was no one on the other side to take advantage. Still, it's pretty amazing how far the Phins have come where they're hanging in there against the Patriots even though they still need linebackers, a TE, and a WR.

Polishwonder74: /How do I reach the keeeeeeeds?

Even as a Pats fan I have to admit the Brady in a cage image is pretty funny, saved it to my pics folder.

Although I don't understand why people are upset that any league would not try to not protect its players in general, but its star players specifically. In 2007 Brady and the Pats made the NFL a boatload of money. Wasn't their last game of the season broadcast on three networks (a first), while the Superbowl with the Giants the second most watched tv program ever, only trailing the final episode of MASH? Of course they are gonna protect the Golden Goose.

fark_me_running: seriously. as far as earning the douche lable, all he's really done is whup up on some butthurt fans's teams year after year. guy's pretty much an unselfish class act,

3rd video down. Douchetastic. And that was only yesterday.


Link (new window)

tommyl66: robsul82: Go Pats! (next week only...hopefully the Jets take them down again so they come into the Dome majorly discouraged)

Don't make the Pats majorly discouraged. You wouldn't like them when they're majorly discouraged...

But seriously, I'd think as a Saints fan you'd want the Pats coming into the game thinking they are all that and the proverbial bag of chips. If they lose to the Jets they'll be pretty pissed off and focused, but if they beat the piss out of the Jets they might start believing the hype and become ripe for the picking.

/Hope the maintenance staff at the Dome has ordered a lot of extra bulbs for the scoreboard
//Does that thing go to triple digits?

True, true.

legion_of_doo: poisonedpawn78: jake_lex: I heard that the Dolphins are using this new kind of offense. Wild dog, wild card, something like that. It was just mentioned in passing by someone on some sports show, and never talked about again. Anyone hear about this?

No i didnt hear more about it myself. But I often wonder how offenses were run before they allowed the forward pass...

/its not new.
//Broadcasters are morons.

I don't think the Dolphins have the personnel overall to run an offense that includes the forward pass.

Maybe the Wildcat was a neat gimmick at one point, but I think it shows the utter lack of confidence that the Miami coaching staff/management have in both Chad Henne & that receiving corps. They are running the Wildcat because they are unable to run anything else with the players that they have.

I think Henne might even be a good starter for a number of teams, but he's clearly not the guy for Miami... not the way they are using him & throwing him into no-win situations. Sit the QB down for a couple plays, send him back in for 3rd and 15?

I know Miami fans are saying, "We just need to sign a WR who can catch" (the ones who haven't thrown Henne under the bus for the losses, anyway)... but what quality veteran WR in their right mind would play for this offensive coordinator?

The portion I highlighted shows where you showed you have no idea what you are talking about.

Gordie_Howe_Hat_Trick: IRT the Wildcat ... works great every now & again. But if a team is relying on it to work for a full game, I don't know if will work week in/week out, at least not with the personnel that Miami currently employs.


They won the division using it last year with mostly the same personnel. I hate to say it but we are missing Chad.

jst3p: They won the division using it last year with mostly the same personnel. I hate to say it but we are missing Chad playing an actual NFL schedule this year.

I'm not saying missing Chad isn't a problem, it obviously is. But I don't think this year's edition of the Dolphins is any worse than last year's team, but where the Phins of last year got to fatten up on the likes of the Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders, Niners and Rams this year's schedule has games against the Saints, Colts and Falcons (so far)...

tommyl66: jst3p: They won the division using it last year with mostly the same personnel. I hate to say it but we are missing Chad playing an actual NFL schedule this year.

I'm not saying missing Chad isn't a problem, it obviously is. But I don't think this year's edition of the Dolphins is any worse than last year's team, but where the Phins of last year got to fatten up on the likes of the Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders, Niners and Rams this year's schedule has games against the Saints, Colts and Falcons (so far)...


I will admit that this is a factor, but we punched the Pats in the mouth last year...

jst3p: I will admit that this is a factor, but we punched the Pats in the mouth last year...

Thats also true, but the Pats defense is much different this year, too. Last year's edition had players like Bruschi and Harrison who had obviously lost a step or two and Miami did a good job exploiting that. The Pats worked on overhauling that defense, and now with younger, quicker players like Merriweather and Guyton taking on bigger roles they're looking a lot better.

jst3p: tommyl66: jst3p: They won the division using it last year with mostly the same personnel. I hate to say it but we are missing Chad playing an actual NFL schedule this year.

I'm not saying missing Chad isn't a problem, it obviously is. But I don't think this year's edition of the Dolphins is any worse than last year's team, but where the Phins of last year got to fatten up on the likes of the Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders, Niners and Rams this year's schedule has games against the Saints, Colts and Falcons (so far)...


I will admit that this is a factor, but we punched the Pats in the mouth last year...

...by playing against a qb making his second start in however many years, and also deciding to use the Wildcat for the first time (if I remember correctly) during that game, where the Pats D had no idea what was going on. I'm not saying at all that springing it on them was unfair, I think it was actually a smart move, just wanted to point out that after the Pats knew what to expect, the outcome was slightly different the second time around.

Also, what position did you play? I'm kind of curious, since you used "we" in your statement, indicating that you played for the Dolphins last year.

Plutonians Are Teh Suck: Also, what position did you play? I'm kind of curious, since you used "we" in your statement, indicating that you played for the Dolphins last year.


12th man.