Imagine what the teabaggers would be screaming if Sesame Street was just being proposed now?

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It was subversive!

Besides the obvious part of Bert and Ernie being gay, we have Cookie Monster, who promotes diabetes and obesity with his diet, Oscar the Grouch, who lives in a trash can and yells at everyone, and Grover, who seems to be some sort pre Jar-Jar Binks racial stereotype of a West Indian.

mikemoto: Besides the obvious part of Bert and Ernie being gay, we have Cookie Monster, who promotes diabetes and obesity with his diet, Oscar the Grouch, who lives in a trash can and yells at everyone, and Grover, who seems to be some sort pre Jar-Jar Binks racial stereotype of a West Indian.

Grover was a kryptonian. Didn't you already know that?

They already had their own schemes in place to control the minds of children.

And it looks suspiciously like a boot stamping a human face, forever.

I always thought Bert looked better with a Hitler mustache

Jim_Callahan: mikemoto: Besides the obvious part of Bert and Ernie being gay, we have Cookie Monster, who promotes diabetes and obesity with his diet, Oscar the Grouch, who lives in a trash can and yells at everyone, and Grover, who seems to be some sort pre Jar-Jar Binks racial stereotype of a West Indian.

Grover was a kryptonian. Didn't you already know that?




Yer not jokin'.

AUTHORITARIAN?

Librul basterds indocternating our childrens.

Grover will eat your guts while they're still warm within you.

As for the UK rejecting Seasame Street, their loss. I may be culturally biased, having grown up with the program, but have you seen the crap that the BBC peddles to kids as educational TV? I joke now that Seasame Street seems like the results of an overdose, but the English equivalents are made in a Nightmare Machine.

On reflection, that second picture ought to have been linked since it has actual dead people in it. Mods, smite me accordingly.

I blame the hippies. They've always hated rules and authority.

Remember, Bert used to pal around with Bin Laden...

The history behind this is interesting, but showcases a very different viewpoint of propaganda by the two countries. In the UK, the 'jingle' was considered propaganda that was used to sell items or con children into begging for items for no reason. While America sees the psychojargon and euphemisms of Madison Avenue and the Military as harmless, the UK rightfully saw it as invasive. Eventually they changed their tune, but they do have a valid point: when relying on jingles and other forms of music to beat a point into your head, you are relying far too much on memorization instead of critical thinking. Notice how this plays out today with No Child Left Behind (itself another euphemism for teaching towards tests instead of emphasizing critical thinking) and the state of American Education with particular interest towards religion over science or the Rise of Creationist 'Thinking.'

The BBC and the 'nanny state,' as the submitter puts it, has a definite point.

Britain's loss.

I loved Sesame Street growing up. Grover was my all time favorite, and I had a soft spot for Oscar, evidenced by my looking through the neighbor's trashbins one day when on a walk with my grandmother. (She came home asking my mother, "Why is she opening trash cans saying, "Okker? Okker??") Mom found it hilarious, my grandmother was mortified.

I learned letters and counting and most importantly, who gives a crap if someone is different from you?

/Cried when Mr Hooper died

Loved, loved, loved that show. It helped me learn my first Spanish words - Luis and Maria were also quite the cute couple. Don't forget Kermit The Frog started his career on there, too.

Meanwhile, back in the UK, they had a popular kids' show called Blue Peter, which would be rife with scandals later in its run.

Fano: Jim_Callahan: mikemoto: Besides the obvious part of Bert and Ernie being gay, we have Cookie Monster, who promotes diabetes and obesity with his diet, Oscar the Grouch, who lives in a trash can and yells at everyone, and Grover, who seems to be some sort pre Jar-Jar Binks racial stereotype of a West Indian.

Grover was a kryptonian. Didn't you already know that?
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Yer not jokin'.

I humbly submit that a SuperGrover movie would have been far better than Superman Returns.


pisceandreamer: Britain's loss.

I learned letters and counting and most importantly, who gives a crap if someone is different from you?

WORD.

Couldn't agree more.

Is the "asinine" tag on vacation?

FTA, it sounded more like them limeys didn't want any yank programming on her Majesty's airwaves.

Eh, their loss. I loved me some Sesame St. Too bad Zato Jr. doesn't care for it. He's a Dora/Diego/SpongeBob/WowWow/Max & Ruby kinda fella.

IRONIC tag asplode?

ParadisePornoTheater: Meanwhile, back in the UK, they had a popular kids' show called Blue Peter, which would be rife with scandals later in its run.

While its human presenters have shown some human flaws (very few of which have had any direct impact on the show), it doesn't exist to insidiously attune pre-schoolers to advertising.

The Yip Yips have to represent something evil.

Help, Fark! Figure out what that is!

BIG BIRD IS WATCHING YOU

/today's show was brought to you by the letter S,
//the letter A
///and the number 1984
/cookies are vegetables
//filth is cleanliness
///fantasy is reality

WhileAmericaBurns: I blame the hippies. They've always hated rules and authority.

Henson may have hated rules and authority but he sure was interested in becoming rich. Very, very rich.

FirstNationalBastard: The Yip Yips have to represent something evil.

Help, Fark! Figure out what that is!

Cow. Yip yip yip yip yip yip, cow. Cowwww. Yip yip yip yip yip. Cow.

Why are all the white kids on sesame street either retarded or crippled?

pisceandreamer: Britain's loss.

I loved Sesame Street growing up. Grover was my all time favorite, and I had a soft spot for Oscar, evidenced by my looking through the neighbor's trashbins one day when on a walk with my grandmother. (She came home asking my mother, "Why is she opening trash cans saying, "Okker? Okker??") Mom found it hilarious, my grandmother was mortified.

I learned letters and counting and most importantly, who gives a crap if someone is different from you?

Hear Hear!

What, they couldn't take the competition?

A B C D COOKIE MONSTER!

Yeah, but the Count was a filthy bastard

Article mentions Lazy Town. Time to get creepy.

Who here is claiming that Elmo hasn't brainwashed their kids?

swahnhennessy: Grover will eat your guts while they're still warm within you.

As for the UK rejecting Seasame Street, their loss. I may be culturally biased, having grown up with the program, but have you seen the crap that the BBC peddles to kids as educational TV? I joke now that Seasame Street seems like the results of an overdose, but the English equivalents are made in a Nightmare Machine.




Are you calling this crap, buddy boy?

gulley: swahnhennessy: Grover will eat your guts while they're still warm within you.

As for the UK rejecting Seasame Street, their loss. I may be culturally biased, having grown up with the program, but have you seen the crap that the BBC peddles to kids as educational TV? I joke now that Seasame Street seems like the results of an overdose, but the English equivalents are made in a Nightmare Machine.

Are you calling this crap, buddy boy?



But this crap is what gets exported.

gulley: swahnhennessy: Grover will eat your guts while they're still warm within you.

As for the UK rejecting Seasame Street, their loss. I may be culturally biased, having grown up with the program, but have you seen the crap that the BBC peddles to kids as educational TV? I joke now that Seasame Street seems like the results of an overdose, but the English equivalents are made in a Nightmare Machine.

Are you calling this crap, buddy boy?

Doctor Who was "educational" for exactly 1 episode. Big deal.

/Sesame Street rocks
//Blue Peter can suck it

One Thirty-two and Bush: Article mentions Lazy Town. Time to get creepy.

Whatever that was didn't show up, but if you thought it was bad, you haven't seen anything. For the love of god, absolutely NSFW.

/confirmed rule 34 for me in a big way

FTFA: A condition of its foreign licensing is that non-US versions of the show reflect the morals and traditions of the host nation. So Sesame characters have been used to promote HIV awareness in South Africa, bridge the sectarian divide in Belfast and teach youngsters in the Middle East about tolerance.

Hmmmm......

I see a Communist

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thunderbird8804: One Thirty-two and Bush: Article mentions Lazy Town. Time to get creepy.

Whatever that was didn't show up, but if you thought it was bad, you haven't seen anything. For the love of god, absolutely NSFW.

/confirmed rule 34 for me in a big way


dammit, photobucket has failed me for the last time! How dare a website not offer up unlimited bandwith to me forever for free!

now, your link. wow. I could believe a poorly done pencil sketch of such subject matter. But this dude put in muscle fibers, shadows, penis wrinkles, the works.

FTFA: a generation of British children grew up knowing that their American counterparts pronounced "Zed" as "Zee".

It is a little-known tidbit of history that this was one of the proximate causes of the American Revolution. New Yorkers, largely of Dutch descent, were constantly outraged by the Britsh who insisted on pronouncing "Zuider Zee" as "Zuider Zed." The rest is, as we say, history.

Sesame Street isn't on the air any more in the UK because they want to produce their own children shows on the BBC. Now, if this is a good idea or not, I think that is up to some debate since obviously some of their shows are quite inferior. However, it sounds extremely suspicious when the only defense offered by the BBC is that "Kids aren't into it these days" or some such rot.

It's obvious that kids are still seriously into Big Bird, Elmo, Oscar, Bert & Ernie, Cookie Monster and the gang. It's just that the heads of the childrens programming at the BBC don't want them to be ;)

TwistedFark: Sesame Street isn't on the air any more in the UK because they want to produce their own children shows on the BBC.

Sesame Street was never on the BBC. However, if Sesame Street had any commercial value in the UK whatsoever it would be on a satellite channel.

More Brits need to watch The Thick of It and use their imagination. Their government comes down on the wrong side of shiat more often than not.

You want to see BBC kids TV in the UK now. It's absolutely stuffed full of PC indoctrination.

Phil Moskowitz: More Brits need to watch The Thick of It and use their imagination. Their government comes down on the wrong side of shiat more often than not.

The BBC isn't a government body.

farkeruk: You want to see BBC kids TV in the UK now. It's absolutely stuffed full of PC indoctrination.

To be fair, you probably see PC indoctrination in the pages of the Daily Mail.

FarkinNortherner: The BBC isn't a government body.

Yes it is. Its existence is enshrined in a Royal Charter and its license fee settlement is decided by government.

Just because government ministers aren't poking their nose in and directly running it doesn't mean it's not part of government, nor are the BBC unaware that the government could get rid of them if it so desired.

I was born in the UK in 1979, I grew up in the UK and clearly remember watching Sesame Street as a child.

You see, if you actually read the article you'll find although the BBC turned down Sesame Street it was picked up by HTV and was broadcast on ITV.

So what's the difference between that and when American networks reject shows that are then picked up by other networks? Oh that's right, you can't shoe-horn a "Nanny State" headline into that story.

farkeruk: Just because government ministers aren't poking their nose in and directly running it doesn't mean it's not part of government

Well, yes, constitutionally, legally, and practically, it does.

nor are the BBC unaware that the government could get rid of them if it so desired.

True, which is probably why the BBC has such a long-standing history of positive relations with the government in power. Oh, wait...

inkblot: gulley: swahnhennessy: Grover will eat your guts while they're still warm within you.

As for the UK rejecting Seasame Street, their loss. I may be culturally biased, having grown up with the program, but have you seen the crap that the BBC peddles to kids as educational TV? I joke now that Seasame Street seems like the results of an overdose, but the English equivalents are made in a Nightmare Machine.

Are you calling this crap, buddy boy?

Doctor Who was "educational" for exactly 1 episode. Big deal.

Actually, in the Hartnell era about 1/4 of the adventures were straight-out
historical ones with almost no SF content. They were, in fact, a big part
of the pitch that got the show on the air, but once the show became popular
they saw that they didn't pull in anywhere near the ratings of the SF
adventures, so they slowly cut back on them (though in the process they hit
on the idea to mix SF with the history in the form of the adventure against
The Mad Monk). Troughton did only 1, and they didn't do any straight-forward
historical episodes for more than 20 years.

But, I daresay the kids got much more of an education from the rubber
monsters than they ever got from the overblown historical tutorials.