Subby blew it: the proper headline should have started "A Long Day's Journey into Nuts."

/subby

On my way in, I crossed paths with personnel from the Capitol physician's office -- an entity that, as The Washington Post's Dana Milbank would put it "could, quite accurately, be labeled government-run health care." Some protesters, apparently, had been trampled or sickened and required treatment. One person had had a heart attack. The government was needed.

Oh fate. So cruelly ironic. Why didn't these protesters pull themselves up by their bootstraps and go find a private doctor?

They aren't scary, they're pathetic. Poseurs in large groups are still poseurs.

GAT_00: On my way in, I crossed paths with personnel from the Capitol physician's office -- an entity that, as The Washington Post's Dana Milbank would put it "could, quite accurately, be labeled government-run health care." Some protesters, apparently, had been trampled or sickened and required treatment. One person had had a heart attack. The government was needed.

Oh fate. So cruelly ironic. Why didn't these protesters pull themselves up by their bootstraps and go find a private doctor?

I hope you didn't actually expect them to hold true to their beliefs of anti-government health care when their lives were on the line.

Unpatriotic goofballs

Aarontology: I hope you didn't actually expect them to hold true to their beliefs of anti-government health care when their lives were on the line.

I wonder if they used the Metro or just walked to the Mall like real bootstrappers.

Mentat: I wonder if they used the Metro or just walked to the Mall like real bootstrappers.

Each paved their own way. One suggested that they all work together to build a road they could all use, but was beaten to death by a large group of rugged individuals.

The Euro-Socialist vs. the American Patriots. Go Tea Partyers!

"Mark Levin is my mentor," said Sarah, the Asian-American Jew. "I listen to him for three hours every day, 6 to 9 a.m."

There was no apparent recollection that we had just discussed Obama's own supposed indoctrination. A sermon-like back-and-forth ensued between audience and speaker.

Win

One woman asked whether I'd rather have a single apple pie to divide between a bunch of people, or apples, sugar, cinnamon and crust to make my own apple pie.

So, does that mean she's in favor of worker control of the means of production?

RanDomino: One woman asked whether I'd rather have a single apple pie to divide between a bunch of people, or apples, sugar, cinnamon and crust to make my own apple pie.

So, does that mean she's in favor of worker control of the means of production?

Please don't let this turn into a recipe thread.

Office of the Attending Physisician of the US Congress (new window)

its part of the Military Industrial Complex...its funded through the Navy

They charge a fee of 503$ to the politicians...only 240 paid in 2008.

Specialists are brought in at no additional cost.

I wonder what the political affiliation of those who didn't pay is......

Lionel Mandrake: Mentat: I wonder if they used the Metro or just walked to the Mall like real bootstrappers.

Each paved their own way. One suggested that they all work together to build a road they could all use, but was beaten to death by a large group of rugged individualsSEIU members.

they were taking their jobs.

Mentat: Aarontology: I hope you didn't actually expect them to hold true to their beliefs of anti-government health care when their lives were on the line.

I wonder if they used the Metro or just walked to the Mall like real bootstrappers.

I think it depends on whether or not the Metro allows Medicare scooters on board.

I turned to a woman next to me. "So Obama has been indoctrinated?" I asked. "Oh yeah," she replied. "He sat in that church every Sunday. It's called Black Liberation Theology. Look it up."

At that juncture, conservative radio talk show host Mark Levin took the stage and on cue, the crowd produced copies of his book -- "Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto" -- and pointed them up to the bright mid-day sun.

"Mark Levin is my mentor," said Sarah, the Asian-American Jew. "I listen to him for three hours every day, 6 to 9 a.m."

There was no apparent recollection that we had just discussed Obama's own supposed indoctrination.

blinkered: Characterized by blinkers or blinders; Having tunnel vision; unable to see what is happening around one's self.

Was waiting in line to get H1N1 vaccines for my kids last Wednesday (even after a neighbor kindly warned that it'd turn them into communists), when some guy started yelling about how "this is what Obamacare will be like." I said "so you are here trying to get the Government to give you a free shot," to which he replied. . .well,. . .nothing.

.

I laughed so hard when he called himself a "Professional" that I spilled my coffee.

BTW, I'm the "Professional" King of the World (KotW)

The D-Baggers are nothing, but looters and moochers. They are scared of any grassroots movement of the producers.

Gee, I wonder if they'll focus on the oddest ones and ignore any possible 'normal' portrayal?

/You guys are so damn gullible it's sad.

But it's Saturday so you'll all have to wait for Monday for Jon Stewart to tell you what to think.

Giltric: Lionel Mandrake: Mentat: I wonder if they used the Metro or just walked to the Mall like real bootstrappers.

Each paved their own way. One suggested that they all work together to build a road they could all use, but was beaten to death by a large group of rugged individualsSEIU members.

they were taking their jobs.

I know they're one of the current right-wing bogeymen and all. But I don't think SEIU members build roads, road workers would probably belong to one of the AFL-CIO associated unions.

RockIsDead: Gee, I wonder if they'll focus on the oddest ones and ignore any possible 'normal' portrayal?

/You guys are so damn gullible it's sad.

Do you know of interviews with 'normal' tea party protesters? If so please share, I'm curious.

RockIsDead: But it's Saturday so you'll all have to wait for Monday for Jon Stewart to tell you what to think.

And you will have to wait until Monday for Glenn Beck to tell you waht to think.

RockIsDead: Gee, I wonder if they'll focus on the oddest ones and ignore any possible 'normal' portrayal?

/You guys are so damn gullible it's sad.

You didn't RTFA.

RockIsDead: But it's Saturday so you'll all have to wait for Monday for Jon Stewart to tell you what to think.

you know what I think? I think you're a boorish troll.
and I didn't need Jon for that.

godofusa.com: The D-Baggers are nothing, but looters and moochers. They are scared of any grassroots movement of the producers.

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RockIsDead: Gee, I wonder if they'll focus on the oddest ones and ignore any possible 'normal' portrayal?

/You guys are so damn gullible it's sad.

Why do I not have you on Troll-ignore yet? Go back to Glenn Beck and his suicidal internal organs you ham-fisted, tinfoiled conspiracy theorist.

Also, teabaggers, by and large, are not patriots. They're farking crazy people who are afraid of the government because they allow themselves to be indoctrinated by a pretty hate machine. Teabaggers are not patriots because they're jingoistic "GAH! AMURICA!" idiots who think there is nothing wrong, ever, in this country unless it is proposed by a government with a majority of it's members having a 'D' next to their name on TV.

godofusa.com: The D-Baggers are nothing, but looters and moochers. They are scared of any grassroots movement of the producers.

Says the guy who can't come up with a funny name for Democrats so he has to mooch their word for the TEA Party folks.

aegisalpha: I know they're one of the current right-wing bogeymen and all. But I don't think SEIU members build roads, road workers would probably belong to one of the AFL-CIO associated unions.

No, SEIU includes the nurses who are taking care of Glenn Beck right now.

SEIU = Service Employees = minimum wage slaves

SEIU can suck a dick, mostly because I was a member who they happlily took bloated dues from because my job as a head cook and chef demanded a greater wage yet dropped me like a hot potato when I needed representation.

They are for sale to the highest bidder and the only reason they backed Obama was because they knew he was fighiting for their memebers. If their memebers pay less in taxes, make higher wages, get low cost healthcare independant of emplyment, etc. then they don't have to negotiate shiat with the corpos. They will still retain higher and higher dues because now their member wages have risen and they take a percentage.

I have watched them sell out their members to corporations for promises of cakewalk jobs for the board with higher wages for themselves. I trust them for naught.

Aarontology: godofusa.com: The D-Baggers are nothing, but looters and moochers. They are scared of any grassroots movement of the producers.

Says the guy who can't come up with a funny name for Democrats so he has to mooch their word for the TEA Party folks.

4000 people went Galt this week and the economy didn't grind to a halt.

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buses,signs,tshirts,free lunches. all brought to you by the lobbyists for the healthcare industry. they got you fighting for their interests not yours. and you people are so gottdamned brainwashed you can't see it. it's all about hate and anger and directing it in the right direction. they know people are upset with things. so instead of taking responsibility for it and owning up to the fact that you supported the biggest criminals in the history of the US because of party loyalty you're ready to accept that you had nothing to do with it and it's all the other side's fault.
it's about washing away the guilt and replacing it with righteous indignation. you're being brainwashed through social engineering by the right wing and corporate media.

aegisalpha: Giltric: Lionel Mandrake: Mentat: I wonder if they used the Metro or just walked to the Mall like real bootstrappers.

Each paved their own way. One suggested that they all work together to build a road they could all use, but was beaten to death by a large group of rugged individualsSEIU members.

they were taking their jobs.

I know they're one of the current right-wing bogeymen and all. But I don't think SEIU members build roads, road workers would probably belong to one of the AFL-CIO associated unions.

Probably....

Mentat: aegisalpha: I know they're one of the current right-wing bogeymen and all. But I don't think SEIU members build roads, road workers would probably belong to one of the AFL-CIO associated unions.

No, SEIU includes the nurses who are taking care of Glenn Beck right now.

Isn't that another way of saying what I said?

Giltric: Office of the Attending Physisician of the US Congress (new window)

its part of the Military Industrial Complex...its funded through the Navy

They charge a fee of 503$ to the politicians...only 240 paid in 2008.

Specialists are brought in at no additional cost.

I wonder what the political affiliation of those who didn't pay is......

TFA's author assumes that, you know, with a government run system, everyone would get such stellar and immediate care.

Since Congress, especially the Senate, isn't filled with spring chickens (I'm looking at you Senators Byrd, Bunning, Cochran, Lautenberg, Specter, etc.) having a doctor on call is a necessity.

Same thing would have happened had the teabagger fallen ill outside a retirement home. Wonder how good the response would have been in Anacostia, or some little town in the middle of nowhere.

Again, the bigger issue that most of these people are missing, is that some sort of national insurance is needed. The problem is that the Democrats various reform plans don't really solve anything, while spending a ton of money in the process. It'd be cheaper just to buy the uninsured private plans.

And nobody is looking at rolling Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, VA, etc. etc. into one big program. Why not? Medicare is insolvent in something like ten years.

But the HuffPo people -- they have such abiding faith in Obama and the Congress, that this is "the one."

I just don't understand why.

As an Atheist, understanding evangelical protestants is easier than understanding the unwillingness to even discuss alternatives to whatever Congress has put out.

KingPsyz: SEIU can suck a dick

How much would something like that pay?

Mentat: Aarontology: I hope you didn't actually expect them to hold true to their beliefs of anti-government health care when their lives were on the line.

I wonder if they used the Metro or just walked to the Mall like real bootstrappers.

Is the Metro Rascal/Hoveround-accessible?

Oh way to go HuffPo, you edited their words all out of context. I say let the teabaggers speak their mind in their own words: Youtube video of the 9/12 protests AKA the "voice of REAL America!" (new window).

Highlights from the video:
[14 year old teabagger kid:] "I'm out here because of taxes, I mean... He's raising taxes like crazy! We need freedom. We didn't vote for this healthcare that he plans."

Teabagger: "We're tired of the spending, tired of the lies that are going on and we want to take our country back."
Interviewer: "And what are some the lies and spending that you have a particular problem with?"
Teabagger: "The bailout, um, (to the side:) what other? Um, uh... (shakes head inarticulately)"

Teabagger (holding sign: "Thank you *GLENN BECK*"): "There won't be enough doctors to take care of the people he wants to bring on. I mean we're going to be 200,000 doctors short."
Interviewer: "And what should happen to these people without health care?"
Teabagger: "(mouth open, silence) ... A different plan?"
Interviewer: "Could a different plan produce more doctors?"
Teabagger: "Uh, no..."


Interviewer: "[Reading Teabagger sign:] 'Fire those whacky Czars.' Tell me about this concern over Czars."
--
Teabagger1: (Reading his own sign) "We don't need no stinkin' Czars"
--
Teabagger2: "Czars in the whitehouse!"
--
Teabagger3: "I'm opposed to Czars"
Teabagger4 (holding sign: "What's a Czar? R We in Russia?", other side: "Jesus is our king"): "I don't even know, what is a Czar? You know, what are they? ... They're a Russian king! Here [chuckles] [reading the other side] 'Jesus is our king'. "
Interviewer: "Do, do you guys share some of the concerns about Czars?"
Teabagger5 (wearing tag: "Abortion IS NOT healthcare"): "Yes, well I don't even know why Obama appointed a Czar, what are they for? What are they doing? Czar come from Cesar in Roman times and then Russian Czar... This is America we don't have Czars, in America. "
Interviewer: "Do you have any thoughts?"
Teabagger6 (also wearing tag: "Abortion IS NOT healthcare"): "Ahn... Well, the Czars, we don't know who they answer to, we don't know how much they're being paid, and what their jobs are."
Teabagger7 (shirt: "I am a Natural Born Citizen. The Citizenry has a 'Duty' to perform a Citizens' Arrest" ): "Take a picture of my shirt!"
Interviewer: "Well, actually, the first 'Czar' in the United States was appointed by Ronald Reagan. Ah, does any find a concern with that?
Teabaggers: "I'd never heard of that", "Only due to ignorance. I'd never heard of that"
Interviewer: "Yeah, he appointed a Drug Czar. Czars were expanded under George W Bush."
--
Interviewer: "So, Czars aren't relatively new, but you're opposed to them?"
Teabagger2: "Yeah. I wasn't really aware of that until now."
--
Teabagger6: "I just don't know who they answer to."
Interviewer: "What's the concern if they 'have no one to answer to'?"
Teabagger5: "We don't know what their power is. We don't know what they're going to start doing. Are they going to be given land or power over the government?"
Interviewer: "All of the Czars whether under Ronald Reagan, whether under George Bush, or whether under Barack Obama actually have no executive powers no administration powers, they only act as advisory committees"
Teabagger5: "... [shrugs inarticulately] I just don't...[trails off]"
Teabagger6: "You know this how?"
--
Interviewer: "Now the, uh, Czars in the Obama administration are only advisory roles they actually have no executive power."
Teabagger1: "That I don't know."
--
Teabagger5: "Did we appoint them to start advising anyone? Who are they advising? The President? Our government officials?"
Interviewer: "Well, we've had advisors for our Presidents for a long time, I think the concern is, in large part, due to the terminology which began under Ronald Reagan"
Teabagger4: "Yeah, yeah. Well, I, I'm learning a lot more about the Republicans also. I've always been a Republican. I think that's changing."

"All that stands in the way of universal health care in America are the greed of the medical-industrial complex, the lies of the right-wing propaganda machine, and the gullibility of voters who believe those lies.
Let's not let volume beat reason."

BergZ:
"All that stands in the way of universal health care in America are the greed of the medical-industrial complex, the lies of the right-wing propaganda machine, and the gullibility of voters who believe those lies.

Well, that and the government's inability to find its ass with two hands.

BergZ: Highlights from the video:

That was fantastic.

Lionel Mandrake: KingPsyz: SEIU can suck a dick

How much would something like that pay?

$Free.99

Goddamn teabaggers are stupid. They are sort of like my little sister when she was 12.

It's SEIU not SIEU dumbasses

RockIsDead: Gee, I wonder if they'll focus on the oddest ones and ignore any possible 'normal' portrayal?

/You guys are so damn gullible it's sad.

If it's any consolation, they all seem more 'normal' than you.

Tsunami Ditka 2009-11-07 02:43:23 PM
BergZ: Highlights from the video:

"That was fantastic."

Always glad to share.

On the topic of poking fun at the teabaggers: Billionaires for 'Wealthcare' (new window) is always good for a couple of chuckles.

Funny - reading the actual article, the one who would seem to be the crazy one is the author. He'd say silly or rude things, then wait for people to react. Most of them seem to have figured him out pretty quick, and allowed for his biases.

On the other hand, he spent a couple of hours at a demonstration where a bunch of "crazy people" were supposed to be, and came up with some stories that he actively tried not to understand, and admitted "But, by and large, the conversation was genial."

To sum up: a HuffPo writer with no actual sense of humor went to a Tea Party protest, was treated well by the people he was planning on being snarky about, and didn't realize that HE was the one who was being rude.

BergZ:

the_falling_duck: RockIsDead: Gee, I wonder if they'll focus on the oddest ones and ignore any possible 'normal' portrayal?

/You guys are so damn gullible it's sad.

Do you know of interviews with 'normal' tea party protesters? If so please share, I'm curious.

FTFA:

Are you a journalist?" she asked.
"Yes."
"Who do you work for?"
"The Huffington Post."
"No way."
"Yes way."
She demanded a business card, which I produced.
"Oh. You're a Jew," she declared after reading my name.

Hobodeluxe: It's SEIU not SIEU dumbasses

Hmm, you're either crazy or replying to someone I have on ignore.