Baucus was the lone Democrat voting against the bill; the committee's Republican members skipped the vote in protest over what they said was an incomplete analysis of the proposal's price tag.

No, Baucus (R-eally) was there and voted.

Out of curiosity, is this the bill that republicans were out in the grass stirring up teaparty folks while it was passing?

Tetrasodium: Out of curiosity, is this the bill that republicans were out in the grass stirring up teaparty folks while it was passing?

heh... I think someone secretly replaced Congress' Republicans with tantrum-throwing toddlers and are trying to see if we notice.


/it is quite evident

That's such a shame, since all attempts to work with the Republicans have been so very fruitful so far.

"No debate" - All who were present agreed.
"no amendments" - Am I the only person who thinks this is a good thing?
"no support" - 90% support from those who showed up
"no Republicans" - They weren't locked out, they chose not to attend.

No interpretation, there was a quorum and a vote. Ditching work means you don't get to be involved in the decisions.

A key Senate committee's Democrats on Thursday approved a plan to impose the nation's first-ever caps on greenhouse gas emissions blamed for global warming.

And there goes the economy...

Weaver95: And there goes the economy...

For the sake "of the environment", so it's a good thing.

Dancin_In_Anson: Weaver95: And there goes the economy...

For the sake "of the environment", so it's a good thing.

17% unemployment and the plan is to make it MORE expensive for the manufacturing sector to operate. yeah - great idea.

idiots.

Weaver95: 17% unemployment and the plan is to make it MORE expensive for the manufacturing sector to operate. yeah - great idea.

Hey now. It's for your own good so that the oceans don't rise 20' and whatever other calamities will happen if we don't do something NOW because WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!

RTFA subby. First the rules permit the action and this wasn't a special interpretation against the meaning of the rule.

Second, the farking Republicans boycotted the vote, thereby waiving their right to participate--their usual temper tantrum tactic lately. So too f*cking bad for them.

Is this the committee Republicans refused to attend?

Republicans: "We refuse to participate!!! WAAAAAHHHH, you're doing stuff without our participation!!!"

Dancin_In_Anson: Weaver95: 17% unemployment and the plan is to make it MORE expensive for the manufacturing sector to operate. yeah - great idea.

Hey now. It's for your own good so that the oceans don't rise 20' and whatever other calamities will happen if we don't do something NOW because WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!

I bought a boat last week(canoe really). I plan on building one big enough to put two of every animal in. The people of the future will call it Muck4doo's Ark. I'm hoping to land on Mount Hamilton California.

Good. We're supposed to work with this bunch of whiny 2-year-olds that calls themselves a party? I'm glad Boxer pushed the bill through. Fark you Republicans. Act like adults for a change.

I'm pretty sure that the Republicans were free to come to this committee meeting. It's not Boxer's job to force them to come. If they wanted to vote, they had nothing in their way.

Once we get this health care thing fixed up, all the jobs that have been "on hold" will turn up.

I'm sure the reason nobody's hiring is because they're all just waiting to find out how get onboard this new health care system.

Imagine all those people who have been turning down job offers because the health care package was inadequate. They'll *have to* go back to work now, because they've run out of excuses for taking those jobs.

DarthBrooks: Once we get this health care thing fixed up, all the jobs that have been "on hold" will turn up.

I'm sure the reason nobody's hiring is because they're all just waiting to find out how get onboard this new health care system.

Imagine all those people who have been turning down job offers because the health care package was inadequate. They'll *have to* go back to work now, because they've run out of excuses for taking those jobs.

Here's a guy who doesn't know unemployment is a lagging economic indicator! Let's all point and laugh at him.

cameroncrazy1984: Here's a guy who doesn't know unemployment is a lagging economic indicator! Let's all point and laugh at him.

Why did I read that like John Madden was saying it?

GAT_00: Why did I read that like John Madden was saying it?

It's better when you use Meg Griffin's boyfriend's voice from Family Guy.

Fark the Republicans, they caused this to begin with.

I give the Dems at least 4 years to fix what the Republicans broke in 8.

GAT_00: cameroncrazy1984: Here's a guy who doesn't know unemployment is a lagging economic indicator! Let's all point and laugh at him.

Why did I read that like John Madden was saying it?

Because that's how I meant it! Well, it's more like Frank Caliendo as John Madden, but still.

/here's a guy, when he puts his contacts in, he can see better!

How can any conservative who supported the actions of the last 8 years possibly have any problems with these tactics?

After all, they worked so well for your side.

Or is it unfair when the other guys get to do it?

Kilthan: No interpretation, there was a quorum and a vote. Ditching work means you don't get to be involved in the decisions.

This. In the senate if half plus one of the committee are present, then they have a quorum. And with most committees (all but three if I recall correctly) half plus two of each of the Senate committee chairs are held by Democrats. As a result the Republicans do not need to show up for the committee to have a quorum and vote.

Their childish attempts to slow down the progress of these bills are not only stupid, but impotent.

cameroncrazy1984: I'm pretty sure that the Republicans were free to come to this committee meeting. It's not Boxer's job to force them to come. If they wanted to vote, they had nothing in their way.

If she forced them, they would be crying that she forced them.

They have all their temper tantrums pre-planned, ready for any and all responses.

dave2198: How can any conservativeliberals who supportedwere pissed off with the actions of the last 8 years possibly have any problems with these tactics?

After all, they worked so well for your side.

Or is it unfair when the other guys get to do it?it's okay when we do it

Action Replay Nick: [baby crying image]

Pretty much this! Republicans in congress had 12 unbroken years of being able to ram whatever cock they wanted to down the Democrats' throats, and the Dems had to just sit there and take it.

Now, after only a few years of Democrat cock they're crying like little babies and "boycotting" their jobs. Totally pathetic!.

Dancin_In_Anson: Weaver95: 17% unemployment and the plan is to make it MORE expensive for the manufacturing sector to operate. yeah - great idea.

Hey now. It's for your own good so that the oceans don't rise 20' and whatever other calamities will happen if we don't do something NOW because WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!

Which one of you had to eat the cracker?

I would have enjoyed this more if the Republicans didn't act like little 5 year olds who didn't get their way.

WaltzingMathilda: Dancin_In_Anson: Weaver95: 17% unemployment and the plan is to make it MORE expensive for the manufacturing sector to operate. yeah - great idea.

Hey now. It's for your own good so that the oceans don't rise 20' and whatever other calamities will happen if we don't do something NOW because WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!

Which one of you had to eat the cracker?

I've heard something about that Lib tradition. Explain it further please.

muck4doo: dave2198: How can any conservativeliberals who supportedwere pissed off with the actions of the last 8 years possibly have any problems with these tactics?

After all, they worked so well for your side.

Or is it unfair when the other guys get to do it?it's okay when we do it

You guys set the rules for the game. If Democrats play fair, they lose. You taught us that.

Man up, and learn to live with the consequences.

An 83% reduction by 2050?

Oh please pass that. Watching the Democrats become extinct from ballots nationwide should be amusing.

VictoryCabal: Is this the committee Republicans refused to attend?

Republicans: "We refuse to participate!!! WAAAAAHHHH, you're doing stuff without our participation!!!"

Didn't they learn anything from the Soviet Union and the Korean War

dave2198: muck4doo: dave2198: How can any conservativeliberals who supportedwere pissed off with the actions of the last 8 years possibly have any problems with these tactics?

After all, they worked so well for your side.

Or is it unfair when the other guys get to do it?it's okay when we do it

You guys set the rules for the game. If Democrats play fair, they lose. You taught us that.

Man up, and learn to live with the consequences.

I learned it from you dad! I learned it from you!

The democrats are nuts doing this while the economy is in the dumps. If people start seeing their heating oil, gas, and gasoline prices rise this winter they will catch hell in 2010. I'm not pretending to be concerned, I'm just amazed at the timing.

muck4doo: I've heard something about that Lib tradition. Explain it further please.

The last one to spill their seed on the Triscuit has to eat it.

Who cares what subby meant by submitting that. This is a good thing :)

randomjsa: An 83% reduction by 2050?

Oh please pass that. Watching the Democrats become extinct from ballots nationwide should be amusing.


That isn't that hard to do.

Company's can reduce their emissions by a huge amount now just by switching to current technology, however they've had no reason to invest in it. So these company's keep using the older, more polluting, but cheaper way.

They can reduce it by a significant amount now, but they have until 2050 and the technology updates that will bring to get it in line.

Action Replay Nick: muck4doo: I've heard something about that Lib tradition. Explain it further please.

The last one to spill their seed on the Triscuit has to eat it.

I hope your talking sunflower seeds willis

muck4doo: dave2198: muck4doo: dave2198: How can any conservativeliberals who supportedwere pissed off with the actions of the last 8 years possibly have any problems with these tactics?

After all, they worked so well for your side.

Or is it unfair when the other guys get to do it?it's okay when we do it

You guys set the rules for the game. If Democrats play fair, they lose. You taught us that.

Man up, and learn to live with the consequences.

I learned it from you dad! I learned it from you!

Well? Didn't they?

You can't use honesty and fairness to deal with conservatives, because they don't understand the concepts.

For being Christians, they seem to have learned nothing from their savior.

Oh god! A majority of comittee voted for a bill and it passed!

This is an outrage!

Dear Republicans: Please feel free to not bother showing up for votes more often. I don't mind at all.

dave2198: You can't use honesty and fairness to deal with conservatives

Glad you made the Dem position clear.

relcec: The democrats are nuts doing this while the economy is in the dumps. If people start seeing their heating oil, gas, and gasoline prices rise this winter they will catch hell in 2010. I'm not pretending to be concerned, I'm just amazed at the timing.

More likely, Americans will experience a lower electric bill and fewer outages thanks to the jolt from the stimulus last week targeting just those concerns.

Don't believe the panic.

It has become a common phrase, "If you didn't vote you have no right to complain." The republicans on this committee had a chance for their voices to be heard, and they elected not to be heard. That all says to me they didn't really care about the bill and the people they represent should be aware of that.

muck4doo: dave2198: You can't use honesty and fairness to deal with conservatives

Glad you made the Dem position clear.

Glad you think I speak for all Democrats. I didn't know I had that much power. Do I get a pay raise?

muck4doo:
Those bad rugged individualist people need to DIAF.

quote cutting = fun

Bunnyhat: randomjsa: An 83% reduction by 2050?

Oh please pass that. Watching the Democrats become extinct from ballots nationwide should be amusing.


That isn't that hard to do.

Company's can reduce their emissions by a huge amount now just by switching to current technology, however they've had no reason to invest in it. So these company's keep using the older, more polluting, but cheaper way.

They can reduce it by a significant amount now, but they have until 2050 and the technology updates that will bring to get it in line.

Because its not an investment to make huge outlays to just end up paying more for less in the future you dumb fark. Wind mills will never be able to beat gas turbines required for production by manufacturers. I relish the opportunity to watch you help pound your party into the dustbin of history.
If anything with teeth is passed Obama is done in 2012. But I can't imagine them stating anything until 1013 so he can get his second term.

dave2198: Glad you think I speak for all Democrats. I didn't know I had that much power. Do I get a pay raise?

And a title, don't forget to ask for a title. That will be important in the coming liberal monarchy.

Weaver95: 17% unemployment and the plan is to make it MORE expensive for the manufacturing sector to operate. yeah - great idea.

idiots.

Like I keep thinking lately, "Just hurry up and collapse, you farker."

Cozret: dave2198: Glad you think I speak for all Democrats. I didn't know I had that much power. Do I get a pay raise?

And a title, don't forget to ask for a title. That will be important in the coming liberal monarchy.

I want to ride one of the 4 ponies of the apocolypse... you know, the liberal army who will fight Jesus when he returns to vanquish Obama.