fta Back in the early days of the Internet, when 2400 baud dial-up modems roamed the earth, it would take more than an hour and a half to transmit that much information, assuming you could keep the connection going that long.
Cool article from 1996. I wonder when the new Pentium processors will be coming in? And I'm really looking forward to Windows Millennium. I bet it's a stable OS.
"Of Merlin wise I learned a song,-- Sing it low, or sing it loud, It is mightier than the strong, And punishes the proud. I sing it to the surging crowd,-- Good men it will calm and cheer, Bad men it will chain and cage. In the heart of the music peals a strain Which only angels hear; Whether it waken joy or rage, Hushed myriads hark in vain, Yet they who hear it shed their age, And take their youth again."
"Back in the early days of the Internet, when 2400 baud dial-up modems roamed the earth, it would take more than an hour and a half to transmit that much information"
2400 baud... that's 300 bytes a second (2400 bits a second), right? So that's roughly 1 megabyte an hour. It would take 28 hours... Am I wrong?
Look, I buy that at least a quarter of you can tell the difference between 192k and 128k. And maybe a few of you find an improvement with 256k. But lossless from an already-lossy CD? Really?
This would be more like an Obvious thing than a Spiffy thing. Almost Ric Romero obvious. Subby: "*gasp* oh my god, there are other "formats" beside "mp3" for stealing music from CDs and internets to store on your computor."
macadamiaman: 2400 baud... that's 300 bytes a second (2400 bits a second), right? So that's roughly 1 megabyte an hour. It would take 28 hours... Am I wrong?
I came here to say that. I remember the 2400bps days, and it was a 1 meg per hour at best. And when I say at best, I mean downloading at 2400bps usually involved a transfer protocol like Xmodem, which did not have error correction. Line noise, someone picking up the phone, etc. would nuke the download. It wasn't until speeds kicked up to around 9600 that Ymodem, Zmodem, and other protocols offered software based error correction. Then the mighty 14.4k modem came along, and the even mightier US Robotics modems boasting hardware based error correction and compression.
So yeah, it was 1mb per hour then, but games frequently didn't exceed 1 mb compressed either. Good ole Jones in the Fast Lane . . .
Riffington:Look, I buy that at least a quarter of you can tell the difference between 192k and 128k. And maybe a few of you find an improvement with 256k. But lossless from an already-lossy CD? Really?
FLAC (or other lossless format) makes a great archival format: you can always reconstitute it in the original quality and re-encode it to whatever lossy algorithm (MP3, AAC, Vorbis, etc.) that you wish.
/has a bunch of old MP2s that he lost the originals for
where can i download the occasional song my daughter wants in mp3 format for free? the wife and i still buy cds but i aint buying jonas brothers or hannah montana for one song she likes cuz of disney channel.
texquire:macadamiaman: 2400 baud... that's 300 bytes a second (2400 bits a second), right? So that's roughly 1 megabyte an hour. It would take 28 hours... Am I wrong?
I came here to say that. I remember the 2400bps days, and it was a 1 meg per hour at best. And when I say at best, I mean downloading at 2400bps usually involved a transfer protocol like Xmodem, which did not have error correction. Line noise, someone picking up the phone, etc. would nuke the download. It wasn't until speeds kicked up to around 9600 that Ymodem, Zmodem, and other protocols offered software based error correction. Then the mighty 14.4k modem came along, and the even mightier US Robotics modems boasting hardware based error correction and compression.
So yeah, it was 1mb per hour then, but games frequently didn't exceed 1 mb compressed either. Good ole Jones in the Fast Lane . . .
But who actually connected to the internet via a 2400 baud modem? I'm sure some people did, but I would imagine that most people's first internet experience was on at least a 14.4 modem.
zfarkingman:where can i download the occasional song my daughter wants in mp3 format for free? the wife and i still buy cds but i aint buying jonas brothers or hannah montana for one song she likes cuz of disney channel.
Internet locales that are hosts to music piracy file sharing--which goes by the euphemism of "file sharing piracy"
Uhhh, no, it was way right before. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE pirating music 'cause I ain't got no money, but let's not beat around the bush about what we're doing here.
ZAZ
2009-11-07 09:27:30 AM
Byline says Gomes, but I'm thinking this trend is old enough for Romero.
Notabunny
2009-11-07 09:29:09 AM
Ecobuckeye
2009-11-07 09:29:45 AM
rubertidom
2009-11-07 09:30:19 AM
Everyone Has Taken The Good Names
2009-11-07 09:31:52 AM
Internet locales that are hosts to music
piracyfile sharing--which goes by the euphemism of "file sharingpiracy"indarwinsshadow
2009-11-07 09:34:57 AM
Cool article from 1996. I wonder when the new Pentium processors will be coming in? And I'm really looking forward to Windows Millennium. I bet it's a stable OS.
#2
2009-11-07 09:35:18 AM
Sing it low, or sing it loud,
It is mightier than the strong,
And punishes the proud.
I sing it to the surging crowd,--
Good men it will calm and cheer,
Bad men it will chain and cage.
In the heart of the music peals a strain
Which only angels hear;
Whether it waken joy or rage,
Hushed myriads hark in vain,
Yet they who hear it shed their age,
And take their youth again."
- 'Merlin's Song' by Ralph Waldo Emerson (1846)
skinink
2009-11-07 09:38:21 AM
reillan
2009-11-07 09:41:07 AM
No, but "November Rain" certianly does...
mudesi
2009-11-07 09:45:22 AM
Really.
mark12A
2009-11-07 09:46:51 AM
macadamiaman
2009-11-07 09:46:53 AM
2400 baud... that's 300 bytes a second (2400 bits a second), right? So that's roughly 1 megabyte an hour. It would take 28 hours... Am I wrong?
Mein Fuhrer I Can Walk
2009-11-07 09:49:01 AM
/Hot like molasses on a cold day..
Riffington
2009-11-07 09:50:45 AM
Dire
2009-11-07 09:52:54 AM
Subby: "*gasp* oh my god, there are other "formats" beside "mp3" for stealing music from CDs and internets to store on your computor."
FAIL
texquire
2009-11-07 09:53:19 AM
2400 baud... that's 300 bytes a second (2400 bits a second), right? So that's roughly 1 megabyte an hour. It would take 28 hours... Am I wrong?
I came here to say that. I remember the 2400bps days, and it was a 1 meg per hour at best. And when I say at best, I mean downloading at 2400bps usually involved a transfer protocol like Xmodem, which did not have error correction. Line noise, someone picking up the phone, etc. would nuke the download. It wasn't until speeds kicked up to around 9600 that Ymodem, Zmodem, and other protocols offered software based error correction. Then the mighty 14.4k modem came along, and the even mightier US Robotics modems boasting hardware based error correction and compression.
So yeah, it was 1mb per hour then, but games frequently didn't exceed 1 mb compressed either. Good ole Jones in the Fast Lane . . .
LeroyB
2009-11-07 09:58:29 AM
farkingatwork
2009-11-07 10:03:35 AM
heypete
2009-11-07 10:04:53 AM
FLAC (or other lossless format) makes a great archival format: you can always reconstitute it in the original quality and re-encode it to whatever lossy algorithm (MP3, AAC, Vorbis, etc.) that you wish.
/has a bunch of old MP2s that he lost the originals for
rustylite
2009-11-07 10:05:00 AM
Puddinhed
2009-11-07 10:20:27 AM
zfarkingman
2009-11-07 10:24:54 AM
yea i know.. i sound old. off lawn
Chuck Wagon
2009-11-07 10:32:14 AM
2400 baud... that's 300 bytes a second (2400 bits a second), right? So that's roughly 1 megabyte an hour. It would take 28 hours... Am I wrong?
I came here to say that. I remember the 2400bps days, and it was a 1 meg per hour at best. And when I say at best, I mean downloading at 2400bps usually involved a transfer protocol like Xmodem, which did not have error correction. Line noise, someone picking up the phone, etc. would nuke the download. It wasn't until speeds kicked up to around 9600 that Ymodem, Zmodem, and other protocols offered software based error correction. Then the mighty 14.4k modem came along, and the even mightier US Robotics modems boasting hardware based error correction and compression.
So yeah, it was 1mb per hour then, but games frequently didn't exceed 1 mb compressed either. Good ole Jones in the Fast Lane . . .
But who actually connected to the internet via a 2400 baud modem? I'm sure some people did, but I would imagine that most people's first internet experience was on at least a 14.4 modem.
Mein Fuhrer I Can Walk
2009-11-07 10:32:14 AM
yea i know.. i sound old. off lawn
Torrents, my friend, torrents.
dlewis6
2009-11-07 10:40:49 AM
Internet locales that are hosts to music piracy file sharing--which goes by the euphemism of "file sharing piracy"
Uhhh, no, it was way right before. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE pirating music 'cause I ain't got no money, but let's not beat around the bush about what we're doing here.