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(MSNBC) Followup House Democrats can't track down enough votes to pass health care Saturday, even after using K9s to sniff out hiding members, so the vote may not come until early next week   (msnbc.msn.com) divider line 118
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Gosling [TotalFark] 2009-11-06 12:28:03 PM  
The bill will ultimately pass the House. Pelosi will not allow a vote to take place until she has her votes, and the instant she does, the vote will take place.

It's pretty much a matter of who's a yes and who's a no. But Pelosi will not allow the bill to die on her side of the chamber.

 
Lando Lincoln [TotalFark] 2009-11-06 12:30:40 PM  
Well, this just royally messes up my weekend. Or something.

 
Sybarite [TotalFark] 2009-11-06 12:37:51 PM  
Try this dude. He can find anyone.

www.allanvogue.com

 
FishyFred [TotalFark] 2009-11-06 02:45:16 PM  
No. The vote won't happen until next week because they have to vote on all of these farking amendments.

Choke on it, wishfulthinkingmitter.

 
sendtodave 2009-11-06 04:19:06 PM  
Or not at all.

 
Racht [TotalFark] 2009-11-06 04:22:34 PM  
However, if Republicans use procedural tactics to push the vote back, or to try and poison the bill, Hoyer wants them to be on notice that they could get called back for a vote on Sunday afternoon, Monday, or even Tuesday--the day before Veterans Day.

"Clearly, things happen, and delaying tactics can be employed...all I've done is make sure everybody understands that we're going to complete this effort," Hoyer said.


It's amusing that Subby's reduced to trying to concern troll the inevitable passage because it might happen in 3 or 4 days instead of tomorrow.

http://www.rules.house.gov/amendment_details.aspx?NewsID=4497

And I'm sure those don't have anything to do with a delay. Bachmann's are, of course, particularly amusing.

 
Brown Sauce 2009-11-06 04:22:45 PM  
Get it together, my sweet libtards.

 
Jakevol2 2009-11-06 04:24:37 PM  
I can't believe farking Michele Bachman is going to get her farking way.

 
pootsie 2009-11-06 04:25:41 PM  

 
Racht [TotalFark] 2009-11-06 04:26:33 PM  
Also, I'll offer the same bet someone challenged me to in the last HCR thread (and then backed down when I actually wanted to):

One month of TF on HR 3962 not passing in the next seven days.

You want to talk shiat about the bill failing? Back it up. I will.

 
wet_dream 2009-11-06 04:27:03 PM  
That Putrid Puddle of Puss Pelosi Pails!!!

www.moonbattery.com

Offering BJs for Votes

 
pootsie 2009-11-06 04:29:06 PM  
Racht: http://www.rules.house.gov/amendment_details.aspx?NewsID=4497

I think we can all--regardless of political affiliation--get behind proposed amendment #138.

 
Sefton 2009-11-06 04:29:12 PM  
FishyFred: No. The vote won't happen until next week because they have to vote on all of these farking amendments.

Choke on it, wishfulthinkingmitter.


Wrong. The sticking points are only two. Abortion funding, in or out. Illegal immigrants, in or out. You leave either in, you lose a certain amount of votes. You leave either out, you lose a certain amount of votes. The trick is how to get to 218 votes.

/ya can't get there from here.

 
meat0918 2009-11-06 04:29:44 PM  
Racht: However, if Republicans use procedural tactics to push the vote back, or to try and poison the bill, Hoyer wants them to be on notice that they could get called back for a vote on Sunday afternoon, Monday, or even Tuesday--the day before Veterans Day.

"Clearly, things happen, and delaying tactics can be employed...all I've done is make sure everybody understands that we're going to complete this effort," Hoyer said.

It's amusing that Subby's reduced to trying to concern troll the inevitable passage because it might happen in 3 or 4 days instead of tomorrow.

http://www.rules.house.gov/amendment_details.aspx?NewsID=4497

And I'm sure those don't have anything to do with a delay. Bachmann's are, of course, particularly amusing.


Wow, what a bunch of procedural BS.

 
pootsie 2009-11-06 04:30:39 PM  
wet_dream: That Putrid Puddle of Puss Pelosi Pails!!!
Offering BJs for Votes


img442.imageshack.us

 
steeltormentor 2009-11-06 04:30:44 PM  
FAIL tag was busy? Ok, so we need to improve our health care. Can't democrats admit that this isn't gonna happen?

 
sprkythdvl 2009-11-06 04:31:03 PM  
jebus farking christo on a tap dancing pogo stick. why the fark can't the dems ever get thier shiat together? the only thing i envy the republicans is their ability to force their policies down our collective throats. why the fark can't our side get it done?

 
The_Six_Fingered_Man 2009-11-06 04:31:49 PM  
pootsie: Racht: http://www.rules.house.gov/amendment_details.aspx?NewsID=4497

I think we can all--regardless of political affiliation--get behind proposed amendment #138.


Should not have had to been an amendment. That should have been in the first draft of every bill that included the Public Option. If it's not good enough for Congress, it's not good enough for the people.

 
meat0918 2009-11-06 04:31:51 PM  
pootsie: Racht: http://www.rules.house.gov/amendment_details.aspx?NewsID=4497

I think we can all--regardless of political affiliation--get behind proposed amendment #138.


I could.

 
Racht [TotalFark] 2009-11-06 04:32:11 PM  
pootsie:
I think we can all--regardless of political affiliation--get behind proposed amendment #138.


Why? The bill doesn't mandate that anybody be forced onto the public option, only that they have the choice. That same choice is given to members of Congress as it is to anyone else.

 
Sefton 2009-11-06 04:32:38 PM  
sprkythdvl: jebus farking christo on a tap dancing pogo stick. why the fark can't the dems ever get thier shiat together? the only thing i envy the republicans is their ability to force their policies down our collective throats. why the fark can't our side get it done?

Because they are more concerned about getting reelected than anything else?

 
adp1215 2009-11-06 04:32:39 PM  
Gosling

It's pretty much a matter of who's a yes and who's a no. But Pelosi will not allow the bill to die on her side of the chamber

I wish she would just die, filthy farking C

 
Racht [TotalFark] 2009-11-06 04:33:15 PM  
adp1215:
I wish she would just die, filthy farking C


Well, that's certainly a complete rational opinion.

 
adp1215 2009-11-06 04:34:17 PM  
wet_dream

Offering BJs for Votes

Seriously, would you ever even put your d*ck anywhere near that?? WTF? Yuck, gag, puke

 
steeltormentor 2009-11-06 04:34:25 PM  
FTA The apparent problem: Democrats have yet to resolve intraparty disputes over abortion funding and illegal immigrants' access to health care.

So the whole 'You lie' drama was TRUE! Ohhhh....and everyone talked about how rude he was....just like Oliver Twist asking for another bowl of mush.

 
pootsie 2009-11-06 04:35:00 PM  
Racht: adp1215:
I wish she would just die, filthy farking C

Well, that's certainly a complete rational opinion.


Indeed, I am now convinced that my support for a public option was ill-conceived, and I retract all my previous comments on the subject. Thank you, adp1215

 
Sefton 2009-11-06 04:35:03 PM  
wet_dream: That Putrid Puddle of Puss Pelosi Pails!!!



Offering BJs for Votes


Oh jeez, didja have to?

 
Huzaltemai 2009-11-06 04:35:44 PM  
Sybarite: Try this dude. He can find anyone.

www.mamapop.com

 
wet_dream 2009-11-06 04:36:03 PM  
adp1215: wet_dream

Offering BJs for Votes

Seriously, would you ever even put your d*ck anywhere near that?? WTF? Yuck, gag, puke


OH HELL NO!!! But remember, we're talking about members of congress, they have no farking standards.

 
FishyFred [TotalFark] 2009-11-06 04:38:15 PM  
Sefton: FishyFred: No. The vote won't happen until next week because they have to vote on all of these farking amendments.

Choke on it, wishfulthinkingmitter.

Wrong. The sticking points are only two. Abortion funding, in or out. Illegal immigrants, in or out. You leave either in, you lose a certain amount of votes. You leave either out, you lose a certain amount of votes. The trick is how to get to 218 votes.

/ya can't get there from here.


What the hell does that even mean?

 
vernonFL [TotalFark] 2009-11-06 04:38:17 PM  
Breaking News:

Nancy Pelosi went on a shooting rampage in Ft. Hood, Texas, killing 13 American soldiers.

 
Sefton 2009-11-06 04:38:20 PM  
steeltormentor: FTA The apparent problem: Democrats have yet to resolve intraparty disputes over abortion funding and illegal immigrants' access to health care.

So the whole 'You lie' drama was TRUE! Ohhhh....and everyone talked about how rude he was....just like Oliver Twist asking for another bowl of mush.


i252.photobucket.com
SIT DOWN. AND SHUT UP!

 
wet_dream 2009-11-06 04:39:23 PM  
www.papamiket.com

She kind of looks like she has a mouth full right here and Obama looks like he just realized what he did...

\yep, no standards at all

 
Rockdrummer 2009-11-06 04:39:37 PM  
Maybe members are hiding because they are being asked to increase the national debt by over a trillion in the face of this:

www.gop.gov

 
Sefton 2009-11-06 04:39:46 PM  
FishyFred: Sefton: FishyFred: No. The vote won't happen until next week because they have to vote on all of these farking amendments.

Choke on it, wishfulthinkingmitter.

Wrong. The sticking points are only two. Abortion funding, in or out. Illegal immigrants, in or out. You leave either in, you lose a certain amount of votes. You leave either out, you lose a certain amount of votes. The trick is how to get to 218 votes.

/ya can't get there from here.

What the hell does that even mean?


Will they be covered, and in what way, under this bill or not.

/try to keep up.

 
adp1215 2009-11-06 04:40:15 PM  
wet_dream
adp1215: wet_dream

Offering BJs for Votes

Seriously, would you ever even put your d*ck anywhere near that?? WTF? Yuck, gag, puke

OH HELL NO!!! But remember, we're talking about members of congress, they have no farking standards.


Whew, thanks for clearing that up..and you are right they have no standards...Another example is Bill Clinton banging that farking pig...

 
IdBeCrazyIf 2009-11-06 04:41:20 PM  
Racht: Also, I'll offer the same bet someone challenged me to in the last HCR thread (and then backed down when I actually wanted to):

One month of TF on HR 3962 not passing in the next seven days.

You want to talk shiat about the bill failing? Back it up. I will.


Pass, likely not.

But had you said floor vote and debate, I'd taken your bet.

Here are the list (new window) of amendment submitted so far.

In any event, they don't want to go TO fast on this. The house needs to stay more in line with the Senate at this point and give the Senate some time to breathe and reign in lonesome Joe.

 
FishyFred [TotalFark] 2009-11-06 04:41:36 PM  
Sefton: FishyFred: Sefton: FishyFred: No. The vote won't happen until next week because they have to vote on all of these farking amendments.

Choke on it, wishfulthinkingmitter.

Wrong. The sticking points are only two. Abortion funding, in or out. Illegal immigrants, in or out. You leave either in, you lose a certain amount of votes. You leave either out, you lose a certain amount of votes. The trick is how to get to 218 votes.

/ya can't get there from here.

What the hell does that even mean?

Will they be covered, and in what way, under this bill or not.

/try to keep up.


Well obviously, but I haven't heard of anybody seriously entertaining the idea that illegal immigrants would be explicitly granted benefits in this bill. Maybe adjustments to how we handle billing them, but anyone can get care in an ER, ya know.

 
wet_dream 2009-11-06 04:41:51 PM  
FishyFred: Sefton: FishyFred: No. The vote won't happen until next week because they have to vote on all of these farking amendments.

Choke on it, wishfulthinkingmitter.

Wrong. The sticking points are only two. Abortion funding, in or out. Illegal immigrants, in or out. You leave either in, you lose a certain amount of votes. You leave either out, you lose a certain amount of votes. The trick is how to NOT get to 218 votes.

/ya can't get there from here.

What the hell does that even mean?


FTFY

 
Hiro Nakamura [TotalFark] 2009-11-06 04:44:24 PM  
wet_dream: She kind of looks like she has a mouth full right here and Obama looks like he just realized what he did...

\yep, no standards at all


Wow, that doesn't look shooped in the least.

 
Sefton 2009-11-06 04:47:51 PM  
FishyFred: Sefton: FishyFred: Sefton: FishyFred: No. The vote won't happen until next week because they have to vote on all of these farking amendments.

Choke on it, wishfulthinkingmitter.

Wrong. The sticking points are only two. Abortion funding, in or out. Illegal immigrants, in or out. You leave either in, you lose a certain amount of votes. You leave either out, you lose a certain amount of votes. The trick is how to get to 218 votes.

/ya can't get there from here.

What the hell does that even mean?

Will they be covered, and in what way, under this bill or not.

/try to keep up.

Well obviously, but I haven't heard of anybody seriously entertaining the idea that illegal immigrants would be explicitly granted benefits in this bill. Maybe adjustments to how we handle billing them, but anyone can get care in an ER, ya know.


Indeed. But will they get a subsidy to help pay for the public option if they are below a certain income level like everyone else or not?
In other words, will my tax dollars explicitly pay for their health coverage or will we continue to do it the round about way we do now. It sounds like an easy choice. Unless your up for reelection in a conservative district in a border state.

 
Blathering Idjut 2009-11-06 04:48:02 PM  
Sefton: sprkythdvl: jebus farking christo on a tap dancing pogo stick. why the fark can't the dems ever get thier shiat together? the only thing i envy the republicans is their ability to force their policies down our collective throats. why the fark can't our side get it done?

Because they are more concerned about getting reelected than anything else?


Nope.

They'd have better chance at reelection if they did something to get the base of the party to vote for them in 2012. Holding bravely onto the status quo is a sure recipe for disaster for these conservadems.

OTOH it will keep the corporate donations coming.

 
Kazan 2009-11-06 04:48:39 PM  
some of those amendments are perfectly reasonable

Burgess (TX)


#29


Would allow insurance carriers to "rate" or charge more for an insurance policy to those who engage in tobacco use. However, insurance carriers could only vary premiums for such use by a ratio of 1.5 to 1.

 
Kazan 2009-11-06 04:50:06 PM  
Rockdrummer: Maybe members are hiding because they are being asked to increase the national debt by over a trillion in the face of this:

your statement is misleading

that trillion in defect was spent before obama took office.
in otherwords: NOT HIS SPENDING.


he underestimated the severity of the recession, so excuse the fark out of him. Every respectable economist has said that his stimulus package helped mitigate the severity of the down turn.

so fark YOU ASSHOLE

 
The_Six_Fingered_Man 2009-11-06 04:50:54 PM  
Kazan: Rockdrummer: Maybe members are hiding because they are being asked to increase the national debt by over a trillion in the face of this:

your statement is misleading

that trillion in defect was spent before obama took office.
in otherwords: NOT HIS SPENDING.


he underestimated the severity of the recession, so excuse the fark out of him. Every respectable economist has said that his stimulus package helped mitigate the severity of the down turn.

so fark YOU ASSHOLE


Need a valium? Maybe some kind?

 
Sefton 2009-11-06 04:51:47 PM  
Kazan: Rockdrummer: Maybe members are hiding because they are being asked to increase the national debt by over a trillion in the face of this:

your statement is misleading

that trillion in defect was spent before obama took office.
in otherwords: NOT HIS SPENDING.


he underestimated the severity of the recession, so excuse the fark out of him. Every respectable economist has said that his stimulus package helped mitigate the severity of the down turn.

so fark YOU ASSHOLE


i252.photobucket.com

 
sprkythdvl 2009-11-06 04:52:46 PM  
Blathering Idjut: Sefton: sprkythdvl: jebus farking christo on a tap dancing pogo stick. why the fark can't the dems ever get thier shiat together? the only thing i envy the republicans is their ability to force their policies down our collective throats. why the fark can't our side get it done?

Because they are more concerned about getting reelected than anything else?

Nope.

They'd have better chance at reelection if they did something to get the base of the party to vote for them in 2012. Holding bravely onto the status quo is a sure recipe for disaster for these conservadems.

OTOH it will keep the corporate donations coming.


term limits with death sentences for those that oppose them

 
wet_dream 2009-11-06 04:54:29 PM  
Kazan: Rockdrummer: Maybe members are hiding because they are being asked to increase the national debt by over a trillion in the face of this:

your statement is misleading

that trillion in defect was spent before obama took office.
in otherwords: NOT HIS SPENDING.


he underestimated the severity of the recession, so excuse the fark out of him. Every respectable economist has said that his stimulus package helped mitigate the severity of the down turn.

so fark YOU ASSHOLE


Dude, I can see why you're for this, you seem in need of all the meds you can get and a bit of Anger Management Couseling... and just to save you the typing, I'll go now and DIAF.

 
ValisIV 2009-11-06 04:55:11 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: Kazan: Rockdrummer: Maybe members are hiding because they are being asked to increase the national debt by over a trillion in the face of this:

your statement is misleading

that trillion in defect was spent before obama took office.
in otherwords: NOT HIS SPENDING.


he underestimated the severity of the recession, so excuse the fark out of him. Every respectable economist has said that his stimulus package helped mitigate the severity of the down turn.

so fark YOU ASSHOLE

Need a valium? Maybe some kind?


Repubs: "Farking dems are ruining this country with their debt, they're they enemy of America"

Dems: "Here's the truth behind your accusations, please stop making them"

Repubs: "Farking dems are ruining this country with their debt, they're they enemy of America"

Dems: "Here's the truth behind your accusations, please stop making them"

Repubs: "Farking dems are ruining this country with their debt, they're they enemy of America"

Dems: "Here's the truth behind your accusations, please stop making them"

Repubs: "Farking dems are ruining this country with their debt, they're they enemy of America"

Dems: "Fark you"

Repubs: "Need a valium? why so serious?"

 
wet_dream 2009-11-06 04:56:10 PM  
sprkythdvl: term limits with death sentences for those that oppose them

YES!!!

 
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