I have a bad feeling that the Citycenter project, even if it gets finished and opened, is going to sink that company, especially in this economy. I wouldn't be surprised to see MGM sell off a few properties just to get some case (as they did with TI).

tnpir: I have a bad feeling that the Citycenter project, even if it gets finished and opened, is going to sink that company, especially in this economy. I wouldn't be surprised to see MGM sell off a few properties just to get some case (as they did with TI).

Is that thing done yet? They've been building it for over 2 years already.

make me some tea: tnpir: I have a bad feeling that the Citycenter project, even if it gets finished and opened, is going to sink that company, especially in this economy. I wouldn't be surprised to see MGM sell off a few properties just to get some case (as they did with TI).

Is that thing done yet? They've been building it for over 2 years already.

Try four years. According to the article, the Vdara condo tower and the Mandarin Oriental hotel are due to open in a just a few weeks, with the entertainment sector of the property opening right after that. The big centerpiece - the Aria Hotel & Casino - opens in mid-December, adding another 4000+ really expensive rooms to the strip during a time where gambling revenue is way off.

I have a bad feeling about MGM, but if it translates into selling off some of the strip properties to independent owners, thereby breaking up some of the corporate stranglehold that has run a lot of the charm out of Vegas, I'm all for it. MGM should sell off Luxor, Monte Carlo and Circus Circus to start.

tnpir: MGM should sell off Luxor, Monte Carlo and Circus Circus to start.

But if somebody buys Circus Circus, they might improve the buffet then where will we go for the bad buffet challenge, the boardwalk is long gone. The Sahara is pretty bad, but not as absolutely inedible as Circus Circus.

tnpir: Try four years. According to the article, the Vdara condo tower and the Mandarin Oriental hotel are due to open in a just a few weeks, with the entertainment sector of the property opening right after that. The big centerpiece - the Aria Hotel & Casino - opens in mid-December, adding another 4000+ really expensive rooms to the strip during a time where gambling revenue is way off.

I have a bad feeling about MGM, but if it translates into selling off some of the strip properties to independent owners, thereby breaking up some of the corporate stranglehold that has run a lot of the charm out of Vegas, I'm all for it. MGM should sell off Luxor, Monte Carlo and Circus Circus to start.

Wow... has it been that long? Jeez, time flies. That makes sense, I attended the pre-sales Realtor party for City Center (woo free booze) with my ex-wife, and I separated from her in April '08.

Agreed, it certainly wouldn't hurt to shake things apart a bit on the Strip.

Tom_Slick: tnpir: MGM should sell off Luxor, Monte Carlo and Circus Circus to start.

But if somebody buys Circus Circus, they might improve the buffet then where will we go for the bad buffet challenge, the boardwalk is long gone. The Sahara is pretty bad, but not as absolutely inedible as Circus Circus.

Circus Circus buffet is bad, yes. Sahara buffet is bad, yes. And the Boardwalk buffet was borderline criminal in its badness.

But have you tried Excalibur's buffet? Dear God, I wouldn't feed that crap to my dog.

Next time try the GOOD buffet challenge - Mandalay Bay, Paris, Bellagio.

If Harrah's manages to turn a profit this quarter... you're welcome

tnpir: Tom_Slick: tnpir: MGM should sell off Luxor, Monte Carlo and Circus Circus to start.

But if somebody buys Circus Circus, they might improve the buffet then where will we go for the bad buffet challenge, the boardwalk is long gone. The Sahara is pretty bad, but not as absolutely inedible as Circus Circus.

Circus Circus buffet is bad, yes. Sahara buffet is bad, yes. And the Boardwalk buffet was borderline criminal in its badness.

But have you tried Excalibur's buffet? Dear God, I wouldn't feed that crap to my dog.

Next time try the GOOD buffet challenge - Mandalay Bay, Paris, Bellagio.

Paris' buffet is overrated. It's good, but not great.
Haven't tried Bellagio or Mandalay Bay so I can't say.

Honestly the best buffets are the mom and pop places offstrip. Like Thai food? Lotus of Siam around noonish. Best. Buffet. Evar.

Don't worry, subby, I made up the difference for you.

tnpir: Circus Circus buffet is bad, yes. Sahara buffet is bad, yes. And the Boardwalk buffet was borderline criminal in its badness.

But have you tried Excalibur's buffet? Dear God, I wouldn't feed that crap to my dog.

Next time try the GOOD buffet challenge - Mandalay Bay, Paris, Bellagio.

I forgot about Excalibur but, the point of the challenge is to see who will make the fewest trips back to buffet. Whoever loses has to pay for dinner at Tony Roma's on E. Sahara. Which is where we were led to believe that Lefty's car blew up.

Tom_Slick: I forgot about Excalibur but, the point of the challenge is to see who will make the fewest trips back to buffet. Whoever loses has to pay for dinner at Tony Roma's on E. Sahara. Which is where we were led to believe that Lefty's car blew up.

If you like good German, try Cafe Heidelberg in the same shopping center. Much better food.

That explains why my friends and I will have to shell out $55 per person to watch the Pac-Man Cotto fight on CCTV at The Mirage.. Yeesh.


tnpir: I have a bad feeling that the Citycenter project, even if it gets finished and opened, is going to sink that company, especially in this economy.


I'm doing another Vegas trip in January, and that's where we're all staying.

/Friend's b-day party.

tnpir: Next time try the GOOD buffet challenge - Mandalay Bay, Paris, Bellagio.

Add in Planet Hollywood. They had some cool stuff I hadn't seen in others, like a middle-eastern station with kabobs, lamb, and hummus. And they had creme brulee at the dessert table.

make me some tea: Honestly the best buffets are the mom and pop places offstrip. Like Thai food? Lotus of Siam around noonish. Best. Buffet. Evar.shiat, go to Lotus of Siam for dinner, it's farking amazing.

aegisalpha: make me some tea: Honestly the best buffets are the mom and pop places offstrip. Like Thai food? Lotus of Siam around noonish. Best. Buffet. Evar.shiat, go to Lotus of Siam for dinner, it's farking amazing.

That too. Though even the buffet is amazing. Best buffet I think I've ever been to before or since.

and the stock goes up because you know .. its better than losing 751 million.

I'm staying at the MGM Signature for all of next week! Hopefully they will REALLY want to make a good impression.

Wow. Their bonds are rated as junk right now and so have a fantastic yield. You might not see your principal back though, even though you're a secured creditor.

Plastic town full of plastic people living in plastic castles.

Adios.

Waaaah!!! for years we've pocketed shiattons of cash...and now it's going away...waaaah!

fark off casinos...ya'll suck anyway. Casinos pray on the stupid and mathematically challenged.

/not implying casinos force anyone to play

I knew they were in trouble last spring when they offered me 3 free weekday nights at the Mirage or 2 free weekend nights, no blackout dates. I would barely register on the comp chart and they were practically begging me to go out there.

hahahahaha

Meanwhile, very close relatives are going to Vegas for a week later this month, and won't have to pay for a single night's stay. Smell the desperation.

Unfortunately for the casinos, they happen to be very controlled, fairly skillful gamblers, so they won't be making much off them.

/Knows where the money is.

ihatedumbpeople: Waaaah!!! for years we've pocketed shiattons of cash...and now it's going away...waaaah!

fark off casinos...ya'll suck anyway. Casinos pray on the stupid and mathematically challenged.

/not implying casinos force anyone to play

5 years ago, i was tempted to invest in a "sin" mutual fund that pours money into places like Vegas, Atlantic City, and Reno. I'm actually surprised that people have cut back on gambling. Shows how severe the recession truly is...

/ Money went into a CD instead.
// Wanted my assets to be more liquid due to layoffs at my company...