I'm all for any kind of tax cut really, but this is kind of stupid. The economy does suck, if there's any income tax cuts, they should apply to everyone, not just pet owners.

/would totally claim like $1,200 for 2009 between the cat and the dog

I move that your cat stinks and is ugly.

The sponsor is a Republican? Really?

Okay, this Republican waste of skin wants to give his mutt more rights than a committed gay couple.

So I guess the NW Detroit burbs get their water straight from the jackass tap.

Can I haz cat thread?

Isn't that a waste of federal money and Congressional time?

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Representative
Thaddeus McCotter
R-MI
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Oh.

GAT_00: Isn't that a waste of federal money and Congressional time?

I hate Republicans as much as the next guy, but if this thing will put money back in my pocket, I have to admit that, unfortunately, I can not muster any hate for this bill. Getting my cat caught up on her shots was f*cking expensive.

Action Replay Nick: I hate Republicans as much as the next guy, but if this thing will put money back in my pocket, I have to admit that, unfortunately, I can not muster any hate for this bill. Getting my cat caught up on her shots was f*cking expensive.

Pets are a choice. You don't deserve a tax break for that.

GAT_00: Pets are a choice. You don't deserve a tax break for that.

So is owning a home, going to college, having and raising children, buying a car, doing energy-efficiency home improvements, making charitable contributions, and...yeah, basically every single tax deduction or credit on the books is a choice.

Abstruse: GAT_00: Pets are a choice. You don't deserve a tax break for that.

So is owning a home, going to college, having and raising children, buying a car, doing energy-efficiency home improvements, making charitable contributions, and...yeah, basically every single tax deduction or credit on the books is a choice.

The difference being, the things they reward with tax credits are considered to be beneficial to the society at large. I fail to see how Mister Fuzzbutt Ignatious von Mergatroid over there benefits anyone other than his owner.

Maybe Fluffikins should take some personal responsibility and stop sleeping with the tomcats in the back alley. Us taxpayers have to foot the bill for her litters, not to mention have to wait in the pet ER for hours while vets treat them for the sniffles. FIX OLD NO NEW.

/and don't get me started on those illegal immigrant cats from Persia.

tallguywithglasseson: I move that your cat stinks and is ugly.

If you can't afford to keep your cat healthy the government should issue one of these





And one should be issued to whatever douche that wasted the congress time and our tax dollars by putting this bill into action.

GAT_00: Pets are a choice. You don't deserve a tax break for that.

If I really felt like being a dick I'd go into some Clunkers thread and pick a choice quote from you praising a program that gave people GIANT FISTFULS OF CASH to buy a new version of something they already owned.

But I'm tired.

And like I mentioned, I like anything that gives me back tax money, so I'd hate to do something like that and have people think I was against the Clunker program.

Tax dodge for the rich.

Old News is is Old (new window)

This story shows why the Republicans fail at leadership. If they were fiscal conservatives they would look to the overall financial responsibility. Cutting taxes on anything and everything because someone has a whim is stupid idea.

If one ran a business that way, lowering prices at random below the point that one could pay the bills, they would go out of business and be deemed a failure. Republicans do it and consider themselves heroes.

Not that Democrats have been better at it, but at least Clinton could balance a budget.

themindiswatching: FIX OLD NO NEW.



I thought she looked familiar.

ZOMG GOVRENMNET SUBSIDIES

EL_FABREZ: If you can't afford to keep your cat healthy the government should issue one of these

And one should be issued to whatever douche that wasted the congress time and our tax dollars by putting this bill into action.

Oh ya and get the police on you for animal cruelty and unlawful discharge.

Trust me I checked into this after my wife's cat pissed me off.

I think I might support this.

EL_FABREZ: If you can't afford to keep your cat healthy the government should issue one of these

And one should be issued to whatever douche that wasted the congress time and our tax dollars by putting this bill into action.

A suppository?

I thought the 'pubs were banging the boot straps drum.

Saiga410: Tax dodge for the rich.

Oh yeah and this.

Saiga410: Tax dodge for the rich.

Precisely. Why should taxpayers subsidize rich people's discretionary vet bills?

detfrost1: EL_FABREZ: If you can't afford to keep your cat healthy the government should issue one of these

And one should be issued to whatever douche that wasted the congress time and our tax dollars by putting this bill into action.

A suppository?

I suppose it could be used as a suppository...

/now that is a mental image

Britney Spear's Speculum: I thought the 'pubs were banging the puss in boot straps drum.

FTFY

Does this tax credit cover the random damage that my cat does to my house and electronics?

Britney Spear's Speculum: I thought the 'pubs were banging the boot straps drum.


OK, now I get it. They want more people to start buying pet insurance to swell up the industry. And since it's a Democratic majority it'll be under their watch. Eventually it'll pass, and in the next chapter of this story, some tard GOPer will try and say that the government wants to insure people pets too. And not your pets, you'd be paying for other peoples pets insurance too! Socialist! And next time kitty gets sick they put him to death, like yer grammas! Fascist!

themindiswatching: Maybe Fluffikins should take some personal responsibility and stop sleeping with the tomcats in the back alley. Us taxpayers have to foot the bill for her litters, not to mention have to wait in the pet ER for hours while vets treat them for the sniffles. FIX OLD NO NEW.

/and don't get me started on those illegal immigrant cats from Persia.

There will be a buck out of your health care bill every month for Fluffinkin's abortions.

Is Thaddues McCotter willing to pay for this pet subsidy out of his own pocket? No? Well, then I guess we'll have to raise taxes to pay for it.

Also, should have said this, but I love cats. I really do. I will probably have at least one once my life settles down. But this tax credit is completely ridiculous. Pets are expensive, yes, but there's no reason to encourage ownership of pets. Next we'll deduct the money you spend on TV purchases and maintenance, too. Same principle.

The sheer hypocrisy of it coming from a moron like McCotter just makes it ten times worse. At least coming from, I don't know, Robert Wexler, it would be ideologically consistent.

soze: Okay, this Republican waste of skin wants to give his mutt more rights than a committed gay couple.

What? Are they allowing dogs to marry? Oh no, it has already begun!


I think gays will benefit from the deduction as well. After all, they have those little dogs that they carry around with them. It is a silly bill though. It just adds the the complicated mess that is our tax code.

Next we'll deduct the money you spend on TV purchases and maintenance, too. Same principle.

We already do.

https://www.dtv2009.gov/

Can I get a clarification. Is this a tax credit or a deduction?

It's my understanding that the two differ in meaning. The first being a direct amount reduced from your tax bill (ie owe 10k but have the tax credit of 3.5k for Fluffy, end result 6.5k tax bill.) A deduction results in reducing the level of amount of taxable income (income of 85k, less 3.5 for fluffy for a final taxable income of 82.5k) One would be akin to a direct subsidy of 3.5k the other a slight reduction in tax rate. Is this distinction correct? The bill suggests a deduction, but I've heard people claim its a credit elsewhere. I figured I could get a clarification from a Fark Expert (tm.)

You know, even though it is Republicans...I can't get outraged. KTHXBAI.

Xetal: https://www.dtv2009.gov/

The transition was government-mandated, so that misses the point. If we forced everyone to kill their current pets and buy new ones, a tax credit on the new purchase would also be in order.

chapman: Can I get a clarification. Is this a tax credit or a deduction?

It's my understanding that the two differ in meaning. The first being a direct amount reduced from your tax bill (ie owe 10k but have the tax credit of 3.5k for Fluffy, end result 6.5k tax bill.) A deduction results in reducing the level of amount of taxable income (income of 85k, less 3.5 for fluffy for a final taxable income of 82.5k) One would be akin to a direct subsidy of 3.5k the other a slight reduction in tax rate. Is this distinction correct? The bill suggests a deduction, but I've heard people claim its a credit elsewhere. I figured I could get a clarification from a Fark Expert (tm.)

It is a deduction. Subby is an idiot.

WTF...a 3500 tax credit. I hope the veterinarian who's giving amazing BJ's to the sponsors of this bill is really farking good.


Thank GOD this proposal is just for a deduction and not a tax credit like subby wrote, or it would really be insane.

But still...who can justify the loss of billions in revenue every year for what is essentially a luxury. Yeah, you heard me you GOP f*ckers...if health care for poor people is a privilege, then owning a dog, cat, or marmoset sure as f*ck counts as a luxury too!

Can I get some money for my pet gerbil? He's uhhh, really expensive to take care of.

I'm gonna go kick RepubliToonces' ass for serving me this farking shiat sandwich on my gods damn farking birthday.

Farking tax credits for the farking vet bills for some farking baggy old coont's farking smarmy ass miscgenated purebred farking Persian who can't even farking eat correctly because its face is
as farking flat as a gods damn farking waffle iron, when there are farking humans going without farking medical care?

The Dog Ate The Constitution: Can I get some money for my pet gerbil? He's uhhh, really expensive to take care of.

Richard Gere??

Kittypie070: I'm gonna go kick RepubliToonces' ass for serving me this farking shiat sandwich on my gods damn farking birthday.

Farking tax credits for the farking vet bills for some farking baggy old coont's farking smarmy ass miscgenated purebred farking Persian who can't even farking eat correctly because its face is
as farking flat as a gods damn farking waffle iron, when there are farking humans going without farking medical care?

Not a credit...and who cares. Sure it is kinda hypocritical for Repubs to do this but really, who cares?

Yeah teabaggers. Protest away. I remember not so long ago when millions around the world protested a war you clowns were demanding. Those protests did a lot, huh?

Onix: Yeah teabaggers. Protest away. I remember not so long ago when millions around the world protested a war you clowns were demanding. Those protests did a lot, huh?

And I posted this is the wrong window. I fail.

Sabyen91 2009-11-06 02:29:19 AM
Kittypie070: fark farkitty fark gods dammit fark!

Not a credit...and who cares. Sure it is kinda hypocritical for Repubs to do this but really, who cares?

Yeah yeah. Valid point.

It's just so farking typical for Republifarks to "care" about not-humans, dude.

Or is that dudess?

Sabyen91: Not a credit...and who cares. Sure it is kinda hypocritical for Repubs to do this but really, who cares?

Where is the hypocrisy? IIRC the tax code allows for tax deductions for human medical expenses. So it can't be that the GOP is allowing for one thing for humans and another for animals. John McCain's platform on Health Care reform was largely based upon allowing individuals to take a tax deduction on the cost of obtaining medical insurance in the same way employers do, thus reducing the focus on employer based insurance.

What the GOP is doing is consistent with some of their earlier stances. It's also consistent with them being unserious in times when the grownups should be talking about more important things.

On the bright side, it would result in me having some tax savings for my puppy who almost died. Then again, I didn't spend that money because of a potential tax deduction, and it was worth every penny.

chapman: Sabyen91: Not a credit...and who cares. Sure it is kinda hypocritical for Repubs to do this but really, who cares?

Where is the hypocrisy? IIRC the tax code allows for tax deductions for human medical expenses. So it can't be that the GOP is allowing for one thing for humans and another for animals. John McCain's platform on Health Care reform was largely based upon allowing individuals to take a tax deduction on the cost of obtaining medical insurance in the same way employers do, thus reducing the focus on employer based insurance.

What the GOP is doing is consistent with some of their earlier stances. It's also consistent with them being unserious in times when the grownups should be talking about more important things.

On the bright side, it would result in me having some tax savings for my puppy who almost died. Then again, I didn't spend that money because of a potential tax deduction, and it was worth every penny.

The hypocrisy comes in when they are introducing tax credits for pet health care and dead set against human health care.

Kittypie070: Sabyen91 2009-11-06 02:29:19 AM
Kittypie070: fark farkitty fark gods dammit fark!

Not a credit...and who cares. Sure it is kinda hypocritical for Repubs to do this but really, who cares?

Yeah yeah. Valid point.

It's just so farking typical for Republifarks to "care" about not-humans, dude.

Or is that dudess?

It is dude and it is kinda odd that they care about anything. Maybe they are just trying to save the snakes.