Ok, there are more statistically more hits at Coors Field. However there are more home runs hit per at bat in Texas. Though while the air is thinner in Denver, the hot air in Texas does make hitters look better. Case and point. Milton Bradley.
The Ballpark in Arlington (or whatever the hell they call it) is a notorious hitters park. This is part of the reason the Rangers have had historically bad pitching.
TheJoe03:The Ballpark in Arlington (or whatever the hell they call it) is a notorious hitters park. This is part of the reason the Rangers have had historically bad pitching.
I believe it is now Rangers Ballpark in Arlington, but everyone just calls it the Ballpark or the Temple.
TheJoe03:The Ballpark in Arlington (or whatever the hell they call it) is a notorious hitters park. This is part of the reason the Rangers have had historically bad pitching.
Part of it is also the fact that the Rangers have had some of the best power hitters in baseball on their teams over the years.
That historically bad pitching thing is supposedly about to change with guys like Feliz, Holland, and Kiker coming into their own. Then again, Rangers heard the same thing about the DVD trio and that didn't exactly pan out as planned for them.
You can say what you want about hitting at Coors Field, but to be fair players get punished for playing in Denver when it comes to MVP voting. Other than 1997 when Larry Walker won putting up some downright stupid numbers (.366, 49 HR, 130 RBI, .720 Slg) no Colorado player has ever really been a serious MVP candidate when the votes were counted.
I mean in 2001 Larry Walker hit .350 with 38 HR and 123 RBI and finished 24th in MVP voting. Todd Helton has never finished higher than 5th and in that season he hit .372 with 42 HR and 147 RBI. That was the year Jeff Kent won.
Actually, checking Baseball Reference Dante Bichette finished 2nd in 1995. Barry Larkin won the MVP even though Dante Bichette was a triple crown threat that year (1st in HR and RBI and 3rd in BA).
Hitting coach to manager, to manager in the World Series, to hitting coach?
Sounds like bad ownership or something, he probably didn't suddenly forget how to manage. Or maybe he got lucky for a few years there. I don't follow baseball closely enough.
bhcompy:Outshined_One: Part of it is also the fact that the Rangers have had some of the best power hitters in baseball on their teams over the years.
Is it the field or the player? Milton Bradley, Gary Matthews Jr, and Sammy Sosa The Later Years never looked so good
Why can't it be both? Guys like Alfonso Soriano, Mark Teixeira, Pudge Rodriguez, Juan Gonzalez, Alex Rodriguez, Raffy Palmeiro, etc. moved on from Texas and had productive years elsewhere. The Ballpark helped them, but a lot of those guys were pretty good power hitters regardless of the field.
Outshined_One:bhcompy: Outshined_One: Part of it is also the fact that the Rangers have had some of the best power hitters in baseball on their teams over the years.
Is it the field or the player? Milton Bradley, Gary Matthews Jr, and Sammy Sosa The Later Years never looked so good
Why can't it be both? Guys like Alfonso Soriano, Mark Teixeira, Pudge Rodriguez, Juan Gonzalez, Alex Rodriguez, Raffy Palmeiro, etc. moved on from Texas and had productive years elsewhere. The Ballpark helped them, but a lot of those guys were pretty good power hitters regardless of the field.
erratick:Hitting coach to manager, to manager in the World Series, to hitting coach?
Sounds like bad ownership or something, he probably didn't suddenly forget how to manage. Or maybe he got lucky for a few years there. I don't follow baseball closely enough.
Hurdle probably found out through the grapevine he's not manager material right now.
He did a pretty good job in getting a hitting instructor job, and probably thinking in the back of his mind that the manager job will be his if the Rangers and Washington ever part ways.
TheJoe03:The Ballpark in Arlington (or whatever the hell they call it) is a notorious hitters park. This is part of the reason the Rangers have had historically bad pitching.
It's now called the Little Baseball Field next to Jerry's World.
WTF Indeed
2009-11-05 11:04:25 PM
uofacats2004
2009-11-05 11:13:26 PM
citation? rofl.
WTF Indeed
2009-11-05 11:18:53 PM
Link (new window)
Ok, there are more statistically more hits at Coors Field. However there are more home runs hit per at bat in Texas. Though while the air is thinner in Denver, the hot air in Texas does make hitters look better. Case and point. Milton Bradley.
TheJoe03
2009-11-05 11:27:44 PM
Di Atribe
2009-11-06 12:09:41 AM
I believe it is now Rangers Ballpark in Arlington, but everyone just calls it the Ballpark or the Temple.
Also, go Rangers. woot
paj
2009-11-06 12:16:15 AM
/too soon?
//probably.
Outshined_One
2009-11-06 12:17:32 AM
Part of it is also the fact that the Rangers have had some of the best power hitters in baseball on their teams over the years.
That historically bad pitching thing is supposedly about to change with guys like Feliz, Holland, and Kiker coming into their own. Then again, Rangers heard the same thing about the DVD trio and that didn't exactly pan out as planned for them.
devioustrevor
2009-11-06 12:25:56 AM
I mean in 2001 Larry Walker hit .350 with 38 HR and 123 RBI and finished 24th in MVP voting. Todd Helton has never finished higher than 5th and in that season he hit .372 with 42 HR and 147 RBI. That was the year Jeff Kent won.
Actually, checking Baseball Reference Dante Bichette finished 2nd in 1995. Barry Larkin won the MVP even though Dante Bichette was a triple crown threat that year (1st in HR and RBI and 3rd in BA).
Wadded Beef
2009-11-06 01:10:26 AM
bhcompy
2009-11-06 01:25:10 AM
Is it the field or the player? Milton Bradley, Gary Matthews Jr, and Sammy Sosa The Later Years never looked so good
erratick
2009-11-06 01:54:31 AM
Sounds like bad ownership or something, he probably didn't suddenly forget how to manage. Or maybe he got lucky for a few years there. I don't follow baseball closely enough.
Outshined_One
2009-11-06 03:39:35 AM
Is it the field or the player? Milton Bradley, Gary Matthews Jr, and Sammy Sosa The Later Years never looked so good
Why can't it be both? Guys like Alfonso Soriano, Mark Teixeira, Pudge Rodriguez, Juan Gonzalez, Alex Rodriguez, Raffy Palmeiro, etc. moved on from Texas and had productive years elsewhere. The Ballpark helped them, but a lot of those guys were pretty good power hitters regardless of the field.
bhcompy
2009-11-06 03:41:40 AM
Is it the field or the player? Milton Bradley, Gary Matthews Jr, and Sammy Sosa The Later Years never looked so good
Why can't it be both? Guys like Alfonso Soriano, Mark Teixeira, Pudge Rodriguez, Juan Gonzalez, Alex Rodriguez, Raffy Palmeiro, etc. moved on from Texas and had productive years elsewhere. The Ballpark helped them, but a lot of those guys were pretty good power hitters regardless of the field.
For sure, but most of those were roiders anyways
kub0
2009-11-06 07:12:05 AM
Orgasmatron138
2009-11-06 08:24:02 AM
If you need proof, look at the contract Milton Bradley got last offseason.
Lt. Cheese Weasel
2009-11-06 08:29:06 AM
a moose
2009-11-06 09:13:21 AM
LessO2
2009-11-06 11:11:05 AM
Sounds like bad ownership or something, he probably didn't suddenly forget how to manage. Or maybe he got lucky for a few years there. I don't follow baseball closely enough.
Hurdle probably found out through the grapevine he's not manager material right now.
He did a pretty good job in getting a hitting instructor job, and probably thinking in the back of his mind that the manager job will be his if the Rangers and Washington ever part ways.
MiamiBlues
2009-11-06 12:11:31 PM
Treygreen13
2009-11-06 01:06:25 PM
They offered him a 1 year extension but he turned it down for the Cubs.
uofacats2004: WTF Indeed: Actually in the summer they do Subby
citation? rofl.
Always a good chance to catch some home runs in this place.
pacified
2009-11-06 03:23:10 PM
Hempmonkey
2009-11-06 07:51:40 PM
It's now called the Little Baseball Field next to Jerry's World.