You're right. It's all Obama's fault. Keep the spin up, fellas. You sure as hell not gonna ever get a support the Republican party again if you aren't willing to farking man up to your farkups, instead of blaming other people.

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Wow. there's some pretzel logic for ya.

The spending decisions that Bush pushed for are not his fault because a) a guy that wasn't even a US senator at the time wants to continue a part of them 8 years later b) medicare costs weren't fixed 40 years ago and c) a guy that wasn't even a US senator at the time didn't propose a cost check that Bush didn't implement either.

Well, that f*cking makes sense.

Anything else?

A Bush economist disagrees with an Obama economist??!?

OMFG!!1!

UNC_Samurai: Cue the pic

Here's one of them:



I think there's a more broken down and up to date one too.

UNC_Samurai: Cue the pic



gladly

See how republicans control the deficit?

And FARK delivers.

what?

lol, blame Medicare and SS, that will win hearts and minds

FireBreathingLiberal: See how republicans control the deficit?

I wouldn't call the gasoline-meet-match method of republican fiscal strategy a means of 'control'.

GAT_00: I think there's a more broken down and up to date one too.

Here you go. This factor's in Obama's budget plans.

You know how Hot Air was founded by Michelle Malkin? So subby, perhaps you would like to explain why anything they say on the subject of the current administration (or anything else, for that matter) should be taken seriously.

dudemanbro: You know how Hot Air was founded by Michelle Malkin? So subby, perhaps you would like to explain why anything they say on the subject of the current administration (or anything else, for that matter) should be taken seriously.

Poisoning the Well Fallacy. Try again.

Thank god the Iraq war was a freebie.
Paid for itself already, didn't it?

Yes, every President inherits spending from the President before him that he has to pay for.

Unfortunately for Hot Air, that still doesn't make Obama responsible for Bush's spending. All that it means is that it was predictable.

But really, spin, spin away!

53% of the deficit is due to Bush's policies (10% Obama's, including future spending increases). You want them repealed, particularly the tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Medicare part D? No? Well, then do you want to raise taxes? No? well you want to do a spending freeze? Ok then I guess, have fun when you don't have clean water or safe roads, highways and bridges. Oh and millions of people would have pay cuts or get layed off, I wonder how that will go down in our economy.

mrEdude: Thank god the Iraq war was a freebie.
Paid for itself already, didn't it?

Turns out that when you mix the oil profits with the flowers our troops were greeted with, you get pure gold, already conveniently fashioned into uniform bars!

Jaakobi: 53% of the deficit is due to Bush's policies (10% Obama's, including future spending increases). You want them repealed, particularly the tax cuts and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Medicare part D? No? Well, then do you want to raise taxes? No? well you want to do a spending freeze? Ok then I guess, have fun when you don't have clean water or safe roads, highways and bridges. Oh and millions of people would have pay cuts or get layed off, I wonder how that will go down in our economy.

Actually, that sounds like rugged individualism!

On the other hand, since that is nothing more than a talking point that republicans bring out only when it's convenient, I can see how they might not really go for it.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Poisoning the Well Fallacy. Try again.

I'm simply pointing out that they have a strong bias against the administration and are full of wharrgarbl. Therefore nothing they say should be taken seriously. Kind of like yourself.

I hate Chevy: MALKIN FAIL. NO CLICKY!

mrEdude: Thank god the Iraq war was a freebie.
Paid for itself already, didn't it?

Its a good thing gasoline is only $1.50 a gallon, or else it would cost a lot to have to ship home all the flowers the Iraqis gave our welcomed soldiers!

dudemanbro: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Poisoning the Well Fallacy. Try again.

I'm simply pointing out that they have a strong bias against the administration and are full of wharrgarbl. Therefore nothing they say should be taken seriously. Kind of like yourself.

And what you are "simply pointing out" is known as Poisoning the Well. It's a logical fallacy and means that you are intellectually unable to process opposing viewpoints and instead choose to dismiss them out of hand.

I would expect nothing less from a mental midget like yourself.

Man, all of the libtards on Fark need to STFU. Bush made some absolutely horrible decisions......it doesn't provide the current President a freebie to go out and spend like a drunken sailor.

You can't really blame Bush.


He and the Republicans are responsible for our current and projected deficits. Those are facts so no blaming is needed.

smokescreen: Man, all of the libtards on Fark need to STFU. Bush made some absolutely horrible decisions......it doesn't provide the current President a freebie to go out and spend like a drunken sailor.

Water to put out the fires the last guy lit costs money.

The defense department budget for 1 year: $651.2 billion

Giving healthcare to all Americans proposed budget over 10 years: $900 billion.

Which one are people protesting as Socialist, un American, and too costly?

smokescreen: Man, all of the libtards on Fark need to STFU. Bush made some absolutely horrible decisions......it doesn't provide the current President a freebie to go out and spend like a drunken sailor.

You are being unfair to drunken sailors. At least they aren't spending my money.

Ed Finnerty: I hate Chevy: MALKIN FAIL. NO CLICKY!

I am going to have nightmares about that.

smokescreen: Man, all of the libtards on Fark need to STFU. Bush made some absolutely horrible decisions......it doesn't provide the current President a freebie to go out and spend like a drunken sailor.

Perhaps not. But it does reveal that anyone who supported Bush's agenda and is now complaining loudly about the deficit is partisan, not principled.

vernonFL: The defense department budget for 1 year: $651.2 billion

Giving healthcare to all Americans proposed budget over 10 years: $900 billion.

Which one are people protesting as Socialist, un American, and too costly?


Military spending = Good

Any other government spending = Bad

smokescreen: it doesn't provide the current President a freebie to go out and spend like a drunken sailor.

No, it doesn't. BUT, where were the tea parties over the last 8 years? Was FOX news organizing them? I missed that.

Teabaggers have ZERO crediblity. Zero.

One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

Hot Air?

I can't think of a better name for that blog

vernonFL Quote 2009-11-05 07:23:50 PM

Teabaggers have ZERO crediblity. Zero.

Well aren't you the homophobe?

And what you are "simply pointing out" is known as Poisoning the Well. It's a logical fallacy and means that you are intellectually unable to process opposing viewpoints and instead choose to dismiss them out of hand.

I would expect nothing less from a mental midget like yourself.

I dismiss them out of hand because they have shown themselves to be biased and illogical, as demonstrated in this thread. Why don't you explain to me why their flawed logic should be taken seriously? And my reasons for not being willing to listen to them are not "poisoning the well" because I have not presented any false or disparaging information about Hot Air, the author or Malkin, just pointed out who was presenting the information and that they are full of wharrgarbl.
Calling me a mental midget accomplishes nothing but to make yourself look like even more of a dickhead than you already do on a regular basis.

WOW, the verbal butthurt doesn't end with these guys, does it?

vernonFL: mrEdude: Thank god the Iraq war was a freebie.
Paid for itself already, didn't it?

Its a good thing gasoline is only $1.50 a gallon, or else it would cost a lot to have to ship home all the flowers the Iraqis gave our welcomed soldiers!

come on. Didn't you read that previous thread were I debated this. The military is run by government so it can't be socialism!

That's the response I was given.

happydude45: One
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Mistake
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That's pretty clever for a Texan.

Whining about Obama spending money is like breaking a vase and then complaining because your wife wants to replace it.

Fark off and DIAF.

The_Six_Fingered_Man: dudemanbro: The_Six_Fingered_Man: Poisoning the Well Fallacy. Try again.

I'm simply pointing out that they have a strong bias against the administration and are full of wharrgarbl. Therefore nothing they say should be taken seriously. Kind of like yourself.

And what you are "simply pointing out" is known as Poisoning the Well. It's a logical fallacy and means that you are intellectually unable to process opposing viewpoints and instead choose to dismiss them out of hand.

I would expect nothing less from a mental midget like yourself.

LOL, you need attention sweety?

dudemanbro: And what you are "simply pointing out" is known as Poisoning the Well. It's a logical fallacy and means that you are intellectually unable to process opposing viewpoints and instead choose to dismiss them out of hand.

I would expect nothing less from a mental midget like yourself.

I dismiss them out of hand because they have shown themselves to be biased and illogical, as demonstrated in this thread. Why don't you explain to me why their flawed logic should be taken seriously? And my reasons for not being willing to listen to them are not "poisoning the well" because I have not presented any false or disparaging information about Hot Air, the author or Malkin, just pointed out who was presenting the information and that they are full of wharrgarbl.
Calling me a mental midget accomplishes nothing but to make yourself look like even more of a dickhead than you already do on a regular basis.

Wow. So saying that they are full of "whargarrbl" isn't disparaging? It's just your pet name for them, right?

Your entire argument is that they are so biased (adverse information) and "full of whargarrbl" (adverse information) that nothing they say should be taken seriously. (Intent to discredit)

It's the very definition of Poisoning the Well.

As for the mental midget remark, I'm just fighting fire with fire here. Was it not you that alluded that I also have nothing to say, because you believe that I am also biased against the current administration and "full of whargarrbl?" So you not only engaged in Poisoning the Well, but also a nice little ad hominem.

Congrats. You have shown that you have nothing to add to the conversation.

Corvus: vernonFL: mrEdude: Thank god the Iraq war was a freebie.
Paid for itself already, didn't it?

Its a good thing gasoline is only $1.50 a gallon, or else it would cost a lot to have to ship home all the flowers the Iraqis gave our welcomed soldiers!

come on. Didn't you read that previous thread were I debated this. The military is run by government so it can't be socialism!

That's the response I was given.



WAT

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Congrats. You have shown that you have nothing to add to the conversation.

It's not my fault that nothing they, or you, say can be taken seriously because of their overwhelming bias against the administration. Now why don't you defend their logic instead of attacking me for pointing out the obvious? Shouldn't be too hard for a conservative mental giant like yourself. Or don't you have anything to add to the conversation?

At least republicans are responsible individuals and pay for the spending increases instead of saddling the kids with the debt.

In other news, I just got invited out for a drink so have fun flaming me for pointing out the obvious while I'm not here. :)

How are we supposed to factually assess Obama's presidency if he blames everything on Bush?

The Democratic party is a party of cry babies. It's always someone else's fault. I'm sick of your excuses.

For eight years you whined about Bush. Now, that your savior has taken over, you're STILL blaming Bush.

The American people isn't going to be fooled again dems. 2012 is getting closer for every day that passes.

Ed Finnerty: [Terrifying Photoshop]

Ahhh! What the hell, man?