mcsestretch:RodneyToady: Impossible. It would make it older than the world itself by a few thousand years.
Don't worry, God, I won't fall for this trickery!
You know that only a small minority of Christians think the world is only 6,000 years old, right?
You probably didn't know and were just trolling.
According to this 44% of Americans agree with the statement "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so". While this may not directly translate into pure young earth creationism, it should be close enough to give any rational person night sweats.
Sybarite:mcsestretch: RodneyToady: Impossible. It would make it older than the world itself by a few thousand years.
Don't worry, God, I won't fall for this trickery!
You know that only a small minority of Christians think the world is only 6,000 years old, right?
You probably didn't know and were just trolling.
According to this 44% of Americans agree with the statement "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so". While this may not directly translate into pure young earth creationism, it should be close enough to give any rational person night sweats.
Those polls are all over the place. One has 53% believing that "God created human beings in their present form exactly the way the Bible describes it", yet another has 39% believing that "the scientific theory of evolution is [not] well-supported by evidence and widely accepted within the scientific community".
Those two things are essentially the same question phrased differently, yet there is a 14 percentage point spread, 20 points if you stretch the margin of error, and still 8 points separation the other way.
dittybopper:Those polls are all over the place. One has 53% believing that "God created human beings in their present form exactly the way the Bible describes it", yet another has 39% believing that "the scientific theory of evolution is [not] well-supported by evidence and widely accepted within the scientific community".
I'm not going to get too far into this discussion, but I've seen people argue that A)Humans were created as is by God and B)animals have evolved over time.
Either way, all it takes to be a Christian is shoehorning Jesus somewhere into your crazy personal beliefs.
Barbigazi:dittybopper: Those polls are all over the place. One has 53% believing that "God created human beings in their present form exactly the way the Bible describes it", yet another has 39% believing that "the scientific theory of evolution is [not] well-supported by evidence and widely accepted within the scientific community".
I'm not going to get too far into this discussion, but I've seen people argue that A)Humans were created as is by God and B)animals have evolved over time.
Either way, all it takes to be a Christian is shoehorning Jesus somewhere into your crazy personal beliefs.
Can't argue with that.
Back closer to the topic, I thought they might have found an atlatl. Turns out it was a crappy scraper.
LOL'd... 2nd that... Urs truly wanted to be an archeologist (paleontology), but parents said..."Art school and archeology are hobbies for rich people, go to nursing school, get a real job..."
14,000 years old? All our artifacts are so young on this continent. When I was in Oldupai Gorge in Tanzania I got to hold a 1.5 million year old hand axe. Real stuff that old is awe-inspiring.
Thisbymaster:Interesting, if I remember we have been in our current form for about 100,000 years so how did we survive for that long before using tools.
~2,6M BC(E) - first known stone tools ~0,2M BC(E) - humans acquire current form ~0,15M BC(E) - humans reach Americas
RodneyToady
2009-11-05 01:02:24 PM
Don't worry, God, I won't fall for this trickery!
jehovahs witness protection
2009-11-05 01:10:57 PM
Slaxl
2009-11-05 01:18:28 PM
mcsestretch
2009-11-05 01:36:52 PM
Don't worry, God, I won't fall for this trickery!
You know that only a small minority of Christians think the world is only 6,000 years old, right?
You probably didn't know and were just trolling.
Sybarite
2009-11-05 01:59:03 PM
Don't worry, God, I won't fall for this trickery!
You know that only a small minority of Christians think the world is only 6,000 years old, right?
You probably didn't know and were just trolling.
According to this 44% of Americans agree with the statement "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so". While this may not directly translate into pure young earth creationism, it should be close enough to give any rational person night sweats.
hillbillypharmacist
2009-11-05 02:15:12 PM
dittybopper
2009-11-05 02:21:24 PM
Don't worry, God, I won't fall for this trickery!
You know that only a small minority of Christians think the world is only 6,000 years old, right?
You probably didn't know and were just trolling.
According to this 44% of Americans agree with the statement "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so". While this may not directly translate into pure young earth creationism, it should be close enough to give any rational person night sweats.
Those polls are all over the place. One has 53% believing that "God created human beings in their present form exactly the way the Bible describes it", yet another has 39% believing that "the scientific theory of evolution is [not] well-supported by evidence and widely accepted within the scientific community".
Those two things are essentially the same question phrased differently, yet there is a 14 percentage point spread, 20 points if you stretch the margin of error, and still 8 points separation the other way.
The stereotype of the religious white male believing in Creationism is actually wrong, by the way. Almost twice as many men as women believe that man evolved with no help from God (11.5% v. 6.6%), and more than twice as many caucasians believed that than blacks (9% v. 4%). Black women are much less likely to believe in evolution than white men.
FlyingLizardOfDoom
2009-11-05 02:26:11 PM
Perhaps because black men are less evolved then white women?
/yes, I went there.
Barbigazi
2009-11-05 02:31:51 PM
I'm not going to get too far into this discussion, but I've seen people argue that A)Humans were created as is by God and B)animals have evolved over time.
Either way, all it takes to be a Christian is shoehorning Jesus somewhere into your crazy personal beliefs.
dittybopper
2009-11-05 02:45:51 PM
I'm not going to get too far into this discussion, but I've seen people argue that A)Humans were created as is by God and B)animals have evolved over time.
Either way, all it takes to be a Christian is shoehorning Jesus somewhere into your crazy personal beliefs.
Can't argue with that.
Back closer to the topic, I thought they might have found an atlatl. Turns out it was a crappy scraper.
Here's an atlatl I made a while back:
Sybarite
2009-11-05 02:50:19 PM
The stereotype of the religious white male believing in Creationism is actually wrong, by the way.
That may be the oddest injection of a racial/gender persecution complex I've ever seen inserted into an unrelated discussion.
Loucifer
2009-11-05 04:46:26 PM
nicoffeine
2009-11-05 04:47:28 PM
LewDux
2009-11-05 04:50:44 PM
AmericanFrench-made object ever discovered was manufactured in Oregon, 14,230 years before Wal-Mart outsourced it to Asia/maybe
dryknife
2009-11-05 04:55:46 PM
meat0918
2009-11-05 05:09:17 PM
Does not approve of tools found in Paisley.
OldManDownDRoad
2009-11-05 05:15:12 PM
You and me both, brother.
/we now return you to Yet Another pointless debate about Christianists
chechcal
2009-11-05 05:58:59 PM
Fark In A Wind Storm
2009-11-05 06:03:39 PM
LOL'd...
2nd that...
Urs truly wanted to be an archeologist (paleontology), but parents said..."Art school and archeology are hobbies for rich people, go to nursing school, get a real job..."
SuperCatBarf
2009-11-05 06:17:15 PM
tarvuz
2009-11-05 06:17:18 PM
And it isn't a rich person's pursuit at all. How the hell would your parents know that?
Diogenes Teufelsdrockh
2009-11-05 06:24:09 PM
Here's an atlatl I made a while back:
Cool. Any good with it? The one time I tried to use an atlatl, I almost speared my foot.
Thisbymaster
2009-11-05 06:36:01 PM
Fraggler
2009-11-05 06:58:12 PM
LewDux
2009-11-05 07:14:15 PM
~2,6M BC(E) - first known stone tools
~0,2M BC(E) - humans acquire current form
~0,15M BC(E) - humans reach Americas