Heisman candidates have been doing it for years.

The ACC grabbed FSU and Miami because they had big fan bases.

Boise State needs a PR firm to improve their own whiny & puny fan base.

Boise State isn't even close to deserving it this year. There are seven undefeated teams still, and all of the rest of them have had harder schedules than Boise. TCU is also a mid-major, and they deserve the title more than BSU.

GAT_00: Boise State isn't even close to deserving it this year. There are seven undefeated teams still, and all of the rest of them have had harder schedules than Boise. TCU is also a mid-major, and they deserve the title more than BSU.

The end. YAY

/if only

/hot

The BCS should be replaced with a bunch of figure skating judges. It'd save time and money.

oh boy, it's november and now we get to hear for the next three months all the superdy dooper intellectuals who have playoff systems that will be sooooooooooooooooooooo much better.

maybe they should schedule someone that is decent beyond Oregon. They played TCU last year in the bowl game and got beat. Although it was by 1 pt, TCU nearly doubled them in yards and such. The BCS is crap but this is just ridiculous.

*Mack Brown seen taking notes*

Seriously, it has become all about gaming the system. Actual football play comes in a distant second. In light of the scheduling shenanigans, need for subjective popularity polls, and the perceived need for this kind of lobbying crap, this system really needs to be completely rethought.

Bash on Boise all you want, but no rational human being can put Oregon in a BCS bowl if Boise isn't in one as well.

/Whether or not it is in the "NC" bowl is irrelevant
//Since there is no such thing as a national champion in DI-FBS

GAT_00: Boise State isn't even close to deserving it this year. There are seven undefeated teams still, and all of the rest of them have had harder schedules than Boise. TCU is also a mid-major, and they deserve the title more than BSU.

See but this is the point: You don't know that for sure. I don't care how many common opponents/strength of schedules/whatever you point to, until Boise State has the opportunity to actually upset or get crushed by Florida or Texas, you don't know for sure.

Play a schedule with the big boys and then we can talk! 1 win over an Oregon team that would destroy you now is not enough in my books to become BCS eligible. I am not a Duck fan.

Go Cougs! Yes, I am aware WSU sucks right now.

tortilla burger: GAT_00: Boise State isn't even close to deserving it this year. There are seven undefeated teams still, and all of the rest of them have had harder schedules than Boise. TCU is also a mid-major, and they deserve the title more than BSU.

The end. YAY

/if only

It could get interesting if

- LSU beats Alabama (somewhat unlikely)
- Florida loses in the SEC championship game (somewhat unlikely)
- OSU beats Iowa (likely)
- Cincy loses somewhere along the way (likely)

Does that mean we get a Texas-TCU championship? What if Texas loses (also unlikely) leaving Boise St and TCU as the only undefeated teams?

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I fully expect Iowa and Cincy to lose before the season's end (new window) but Boise State, TCU, Texas, and either Florida or Alabama will finish undefeated. All it takes is a 1-loss SEC champion and/or Texas to choke for the system to really go nuts.
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What, the system is corrupt? The system where coaches get paid millions of dollars and billions are thrown at television contracts but any mention of paying the players is met with "ITLL BRAEK THA SYSTAM"? Really?

jayhawk88: See but this is the point: You don't know that for sure. I don't care how many common opponents/strength of schedules/whatever you point to, until Boise State has the opportunity to actually upset or get crushed by Florida or Texas, you don't know for sure.

Exactly. If the NFL used a BCS-type system, the Cardinals would have never gotten a whiff of the Super Bowl last season. These matters should be settled on the field, not on paper.

Actually, I hope some of the BCS teams take Boise State up on their offer.

Then we'll quit hearing from Boise State. They're like the little snot-nosed kid on the playground that keeps picking on the bigger quiet kid, then the bigger quiet kid just snaps and beats the living piss out of the little shiat.

Look, guys, I think we have to look at the facts and what Boise State has done over the course of the last six years. They certainly have established themselves as a credible, legitimate, bona fide top 10 team. TCU's win against the 16th ranked BYU, which is now unranked, is not as strong as Boise State's signature win against No. 16 Oregon, which is now ranked eighth.

NCAA Division I FBS: The only organized sport on the planet where you can not only finish the season undefeated and not be the champion, but know before the season even begins (on the basis of the preseason poll) that you can finish the season undefeated and not be the champion.

If Boise State had been ranked in the top five by the "meaningless" preseason poll, they'd be in the driver's seat now.

mentallo69: Play a schedule with the big boys and then we can talk! 1 win over an Oregon team that would destroy you now is not enough in my books to become BCS eligible. I am not a Duck fan.


cdjones85: maybe they should schedule someone that is decent beyond Oregon. They played TCU last year in the bowl game and got beat. Although it was by 1 pt, TCU nearly doubled them in yards and such. The BCS is crap but this is just ridiculous.

Maybe you should familarize yourselves with the fact that this may not be as easy as you think. (new window)

ihatedumbpeople: Actually, I hope some of the BCS teams take Boise State up on their offer.

Then we'll quit hearing from Boise State. They're like the little snot-nosed kid on the playground that keeps picking on the bigger quiet kid, then the bigger quiet kid just snaps and beats the living piss out of the little shiat.

Like Oregon?

HeadLever: ihatedumbpeople: Actually, I hope some of the BCS teams take Boise State up on their offer.

Then we'll quit hearing from Boise State. They're like the little snot-nosed kid on the playground that keeps picking on the bigger quiet kid, then the bigger quiet kid just snaps and beats the living piss out of the little shiat.

Like Oregon?

To be fair, Oregon did knock BSU on their ass.

cdjones85: maybe they should schedule someone that is decent beyond Oregon. They played TCU last year in the bowl game and got beat. Although it was by 1 pt, TCU nearly doubled them in yards and such. The BCS is crap but this is just ridiculous.

This is a stupid argument, and was thoroughly debunked in the LAST thread about the BCS. Big schools have no incentive to schedule teams like Boise St. Why would a team like Florida schedule someone HARD outside of conference when an undefeated record, even if their OOC schedule is 2 FCS teams, a sun belt team and a MAC team, GUARANTEES them a spot in the title game? That's why top tier teams hardly ever schedule top-tier opponents, and the scheduling is trending even further towards cupcakes.

I mean, look at the teams that made it hard on themselves this year: Oregon, USC, OSU, and Oklahoma. They're all behind the pack in the national title hunt because they DIDN'T schedule a bunch of cupcakes like Florida, Texas and Alabama did.

But Boise is a symptom of a much larger problem. There is no objective way to narrow down a championship game to only 2 teams out of a field of 118 when they've each only played 11-13 games. You're going to leave teams out no matter what. Non-BCS teams are prohibited from getting in the national championship, and that's a fact. Even if TCU wins out, with their more than decent strength of schedule, do you really think they'll be put in ahead of a 1-loss SEC team that scheduled nothing but FCS and Sun Belt teams out of conference?

They won't. The system is broken. A playoff system is needed.

ffish: To be fair, Oregon did knock BSU on their ass.

Yeah, and Hout deserved every knuckle. And the humiliation that went along with it. I just wish Peterson would have suspended him for a game.

Oh, well. We hit Oregon where it really counted.

Boise and TCU both need to play more than one team a year thats any good. They both should be ranked in the 20's until they beef up there schedule.

Bring back the bowl games.
No BCS
No playoffs

Its the best way