(New York Daily News) Jimmy Rollins still insists the Phillies are the better team. By the way Jimmy, you can take the A, C, E,1, 2, or 3 subway trains from NYC's Penn Station to the World Series parade in lower Manhattan tomorrow
kidddynamite:Mentat: Sorry Jimmy, but the better team tends to be the one that covers third base.
Pitching was the difference, pay attention fool.
I'm sorry, you must have missed Johnny Damon's incredibly intelligent play to help the Yankees win the 4th game. Not only did he put himself in scoring position by stealing two bases on a single play, but the move forced Brad Lidge to abandon the slider against A-Rod who promptly drove in the winning run.
Wendy's Chili:kidddynamite: The Phillies offense is better than the Yankees offense. It's the pitching that was the difference.
But the Phils pitching isn't nearly as bad as their performance during the World Series would lead you to believe.
First of all, their bullpen (minus Lidge) was one of the best in the league this year.
Pedro was excellent during the regular season, NLDS, and NLCS.
Hamels, the reigning WS MVP, had an off-year.
And farkin Charlie Manuel decided to throw his best starting pitcher (on paper) into the bullpen for the post season.
If the rotation went Lee -> Happ -> Pedro -> Blanton, we would have seen a different series.
Happ is by no means their best SP. That would be Cliff Lee, far and away. Manuel probably should have put Happ in instead of Blanton, but there's no reason to take Hamels out. You would have to hope that he would be at least half as good as he was in last year's postseason. You don't take an ace out of your rotation in the world series. Pedro was brought to the team pretty much specifically for the postseason. The only person Happ could have been switched for is Blanton.
Even given that rotation, you still have to deal with what the Yankees brought. CC was very good. Burnett was never off. Petitte was very good. Their bullpen was good (except for game 1). Everyone who was supposed to suck ended up coming through at some point (ARod, Swisher, Matsui).
If you want to walk away with something positive, Phillies fans: Cliff Lee is the best pitcher on the planet today. This was proven in this postseason.
The Yankees were the better team and deserved the win. The Phils pitching couldn't get it done (who thought it would be a good idea to put in Pedro against the Yanks in NY?) and the hitters couldn't perform with men on base.
/Jimmy needs to STFU and learn to talk smack AFTER you WIN //Go Flyers/Eagles!
urger
2009-11-05 08:37:57 AM
ragekage
2009-11-05 08:44:44 AM
Bufu
2009-11-05 08:57:23 AM
Tastes Like Chicken
2009-11-05 09:02:58 AM
/I see what he's saying, but he's wrong
//Phillies fan
King Something
2009-11-05 09:14:43 AM
All 6 of those trains stop at Penn - A, C and E on 8th Ave, 1, 2 and 3 on 7th Ave. All will get you to lower Manhattan where the parade will be -
A or C to Chambers Street or B'way/Nassau (exit toward the rear if you choose the latter)
E to World Trade Center
1 to Chambers Street
2 or 3 to Chambers Street, Park Place (closest) or Fulton Street.
That's how to get there without transfers. Note that the A, 2 and 3 run express (you'll get there quicker).
/or you can spend $80 on a cab
mcsestretch
2009-11-05 09:16:24 AM
Quit putting baseball in the news. I don't want to hear about it anymore since pitchers and catchers report next week or some such.
ThatGuyGreg
2009-11-05 09:27:19 AM
Quit putting baseball in the news. I don't want to hear about it anymore since pitchers and catchers report next week or some such.
17 weeks. :)
damageddude
2009-11-05 09:30:27 AM
UnionPenn StationFTFY
/Worked in Newark for 8 miserable years
kidddynamite
2009-11-05 09:34:45 AM
moogrum
2009-11-05 09:35:02 AM
Mentat
2009-11-05 09:35:26 AM
kidddynamite
2009-11-05 09:36:23 AM
Pitching was the difference, pay attention fool.
Wendy's Chili
2009-11-05 09:39:58 AM
But the Phils pitching isn't nearly as bad as their performance during the World Series would lead you to believe.
First of all, their bullpen (minus Lidge) was one of the best in the league this year.
Pedro was excellent during the regular season, NLDS, and NLCS.
Hamels, the reigning WS MVP, had an off-year.
And farkin Charlie Manuel decided to throw his best starting pitcher (on paper) into the bullpen for the post season.
If the rotation went Lee -> Happ -> Pedro -> Blanton, we would have seen a different series.
carnifex2005
2009-11-05 09:43:07 AM
H31N0US
2009-11-05 09:49:29 AM
Same time next year? Book it. Done. See you in October!
Mentat
2009-11-05 09:53:12 AM
Pitching was the difference, pay attention fool.
I'm sorry, you must have missed Johnny Damon's incredibly intelligent play to help the Yankees win the 4th game. Not only did he put himself in scoring position by stealing two bases on a single play, but the move forced Brad Lidge to abandon the slider against A-Rod who promptly drove in the winning run.
The better team makes plays like that. Fool.
kidddynamite
2009-11-05 09:54:10 AM
lacydog
2009-11-05 09:56:08 AM
But the Phils pitching isn't nearly as bad as their performance during the World Series would lead you to believe.
First of all, their bullpen (minus Lidge) was one of the best in the league this year.
Pedro was excellent during the regular season, NLDS, and NLCS.
Hamels, the reigning WS MVP, had an off-year.
And farkin Charlie Manuel decided to throw his best starting pitcher (on paper) into the bullpen for the post season.
If the rotation went Lee -> Happ -> Pedro -> Blanton, we would have seen a different series.
Happ is by no means their best SP. That would be Cliff Lee, far and away. Manuel probably should have put Happ in instead of Blanton, but there's no reason to take Hamels out. You would have to hope that he would be at least half as good as he was in last year's postseason. You don't take an ace out of your rotation in the world series. Pedro was brought to the team pretty much specifically for the postseason. The only person Happ could have been switched for is Blanton.
Even given that rotation, you still have to deal with what the Yankees brought. CC was very good. Burnett was never off. Petitte was very good. Their bullpen was good (except for game 1). Everyone who was supposed to suck ended up coming through at some point (ARod, Swisher, Matsui).
If you want to walk away with something positive, Phillies fans: Cliff Lee is the best pitcher on the planet today. This was proven in this postseason.
haplo53
2009-11-05 09:58:03 AM
Vito Andolini
2009-11-05 09:59:45 AM
They did this year, though.
howdyyall9999
2009-11-05 10:10:06 AM
but baseball is an individual sporthe may be crazy, but it just might be a lunatic he's looking for...Dunno why I read your post to that song...
/pipe down Rollins. Philly might have been a better team if you didn't stink up the joint.
The Bestest
2009-11-05 10:11:39 AM
youngandstupid
2009-11-05 10:17:44 AM
/Jimmy needs to STFU and learn to talk smack AFTER you WIN
//Go Flyers/Eagles!
apacheco
2009-11-05 10:20:01 AM
The Crepes of Wrath
2009-11-05 10:23:54 AM
You apparently missed game 5, when Burnett gave up 6 runs in 2+ innings, and was pulled in the 3rd after recording no outs.