(Onion AV Club) Daryl Hall: "I never enjoyed music. More so now even than then. I'm a professional musician. I have been my whole life. When people are born into the arts, they don't tend to see art as pleasure, they see it as work"
How sad for him. Most artists enjoy it. Yeah it can be work. Some of the places you have to play are dives. Long late hours surrounded by drunken assholes. Playing the same old stuff for decade after decade.
Had they came up with new stuff,stayed contemporary and continued being successful he would probably be singing a different tune.
This. I used to write software for fun. Sometimes it was stuff that was useful to me, and sometimes just to learn a new language or technique, and sometimes just because making a computer do exactly what you want it to do is *COOL*.
Once I became a programmer/analyst, I gradually stopped writing software for myself, because it wasn't really fun anymore, it was too much like work.
El Chode:I will bet you $1,000,000 that artists who make good music see it as their passion, not work, and love what they do.
Furthermore, with bands that have survived long enough to put out more than half a dozen albums, you can usually plainly see the threshold between their vital, creative work, and the products of rote professionalism.
AcheronX:El Chode: I will bet you $1,000,000 that artists who make good music see it as their passion, not work, and love what they do.
Furthermore, with bands that have survived long enough to put out more than half a dozen albums, you can usually plainly see the threshold between their vital, creative work, and the products of rote professionalism.
Well, the first giveaway of Hall & Oates is the mullet-to-mustache ratio (2:1), giving you a strong indication of it being the kind of crap you hear when stuck at a Doctor's office or in the Dentist Chair, or the secretary at the office will play because "everyone likes this" except you don't know anyone who actually likes it aside from that fat secretary.
Hobodeluxe:How sad for him. Most SUCCESSFUL artists enjoy it. Yeah it can be work. Some of the places you have to play are dives. Long late hours surrounded by drunken assholes. Playing the same old stuff for decade after decade.....
Sorry dude - had to FTF everyone. Most artists I know hate suffering for their passion - you covered some of the aspects of suffering (paying your dues as a musician), but there are other sacrifices that artists make in order to pour their being into their art: failed relationships, alienation from family and friends because "they don't understand you", money problems, coping mechanisms that lead to addiction... art for art's sake might be good enough on the surface, but when an artist fails to meet personal expectations then there's absolutely no enjoyment in that.
dittybopper:Once I became a programmer/analyst, I gradually stopped writing software for myself, because it wasn't really fun anymore, it was too much like work.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Been a programmer analyst for more than a decade, and I almost never write code that's not for my job anymore. The rare times I do, it's a chore, one that I want to complete as quickly as possible.
Kyosuke:I'll bet you $10 you don't know what you are talking about.
1) I'll take that bet since you're not willing to put any money behind it 2) You probably have an inferior taste in music 3) You're that asshole that drives the speed limit in the left lane,
Kiribub
2009-11-05 06:21:37 AM
JerseyTim
2009-11-05 06:22:59 AM
DarthBrooks
2009-11-05 07:23:31 AM
The Fourth Karamazov
2009-11-05 07:25:29 AM
St_Francis_P
2009-11-05 08:02:57 AM
AcheronX
2009-11-05 08:19:36 AM
What an ass.
Hobodeluxe
2009-11-05 08:20:14 AM
Had they came up with new stuff,stayed contemporary and continued being successful he would probably be singing a different tune.
Kyosuke
2009-11-05 08:28:52 AM
El Chode
2009-11-05 08:42:15 AM
I will bet you $1,000,000 that artists who make good music see it as their passion, not work, and love what they do.
dittybopper
2009-11-05 08:45:30 AM
This. I used to write software for fun. Sometimes it was stuff that was useful to me, and sometimes just to learn a new language or technique, and sometimes just because making a computer do exactly what you want it to do is *COOL*.
Once I became a programmer/analyst, I gradually stopped writing software for myself, because it wasn't really fun anymore, it was too much like work.
AcheronX
2009-11-05 08:50:42 AM
Furthermore, with bands that have survived long enough to put out more than half a dozen albums, you can usually plainly see the threshold between their vital, creative work, and the products of rote professionalism.
The English Major
2009-11-05 08:57:07 AM
Furthermore, with bands that have survived long enough to put out more than half a dozen albums, you can usually plainly see the threshold between their vital, creative work, and the products of rote professionalism.
I can't tell what this video is. (new window)
El Chode
2009-11-05 09:13:34 AM
Well, the first giveaway of Hall & Oates is the mullet-to-mustache ratio (2:1), giving you a strong indication of it being the kind of crap you hear when stuck at a Doctor's office or in the Dentist Chair, or the secretary at the office will play because "everyone likes this" except you don't know anyone who actually likes it aside from that fat secretary.
DarthBrooks
2009-11-05 09:26:30 AM
Control_this
2009-11-05 09:45:12 AM
Kyosuke
2009-11-05 09:52:22 AM
I will bet you $1,000,000 that artists who make good music see it as their passion, not work, and love what they do.
I'll bet you $10 you don't know what you are talking about.
jaylectricity
2009-11-05 09:54:52 AM
Mugato
2009-11-05 10:08:30 AM
Hillbilly Jim
2009-11-05 10:19:43 AM
/oblig
dominick
2009-11-05 10:24:47 AM
Sorry dude - had to FTF everyone. Most artists I know hate suffering for their passion - you covered some of the aspects of suffering (paying your dues as a musician), but there are other sacrifices that artists make in order to pour their being into their art: failed relationships, alienation from family and friends because "they don't understand you", money problems, coping mechanisms that lead to addiction... art for art's sake might be good enough on the surface, but when an artist fails to meet personal expectations then there's absolutely no enjoyment in that.
boxster
2009-11-05 10:26:37 AM
I will bet you $1,000,000 that artists who make good music see it as their passion, not work, and love what they do.
Yeah, right. The motivations are fame, fortune, and women, not necessarily in that order.
The Crepes of Wrath
2009-11-05 10:28:02 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself. Been a programmer analyst for more than a decade, and I almost never write code that's not for my job anymore. The rare times I do, it's a chore, one that I want to complete as quickly as possible.
hachijuhachi
2009-11-05 10:31:31 AM
Also, judging by that, I'd say that some of his music is pretty good.
El Chode
2009-11-05 10:37:50 AM
1) I'll take that bet since you're not willing to put any money behind it
2) You probably have an inferior taste in music
3) You're that asshole that drives the speed limit in the left lane,
Whatthefark
2009-11-05 10:48:07 AM
Rock on KB Cat...rock on! (new window)