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Michael Steele to Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh: "Your opinion really doesn't matter much." Grovelling apology expected by 12:00pm EST



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marcpen
2009-11-05 04:11:15 AM


As if Palin hasn't damaged the GOP enough, now she's using the old 'Divide and conquer' tactic. It works really well.
Trouble is, Sarah, you're supposed to use it against the other team.

 
Sabyen91
2009-11-05 05:32:42 AM


If Steele grows a pair the right could do well.

 
Sabyen91
2009-11-05 05:36:00 AM


"Are you worried Mr. Chairman that Sarah Palin for example, or Rush Limbaugh or others in the conservative movement are going to go into some of these contests and go after the more moderate Republicans who might actually have a better chance at winning in the general election."

That is not their nature? What? That is exactly their nature.

 
Befuddled
2009-11-05 05:39:00 AM


It seems that Michael Steele thinks his job as GOP chairman is to be an attention whore. He doesn't seem to do much but get himself on TV. Not that I'm complaining that the GOP seems feckless of late.

 
csxtrainwreck
2009-11-05 05:45:57 AM


So true.

 
Random Reality Check
2009-11-05 05:47:25 AM


As quoted from the article,

Of course, right-wing leaders are actually emboldened by their successful purging of Scozzafava, even despite the results of the election yesterday. Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) is actively backing Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, a friend of the anti-Obama tea party movement, against more moderate Carly Fiorina in the California Senate race. DeMint explained that DeVore will "stand against his own party leaders" and that conservatives need to continue to "shake up the Republican Party."


Considering how much I detest Carly Fiorina, I can't see how America could lose with this strategy.

Of course, my greatest fear is that these assholes could be right and that if they move far enough to the right they might just win the majority.

/After all, this same strategy worked in the 1930s.

 
rhodges26
2009-11-05 05:50:45 AM


Sabyen91: If Steele grows a pair the right could do well.

I agree with you on this. I would give him one of mine but The doctor already took one away lol but my other can make up for what he doesn't have. lol

 
Alphax
2009-11-05 06:10:58 AM


Looks like most of the article has been quoted in the thread already.

Anyway, Steele is either being naive, or disengenuous, about Palin and Limbaugh.

 
Alphax
2009-11-05 06:14:39 AM


Oh, and I'll expect Palin to ask for Steele's head on a platter, via Facebook. Literally, his physical head.

 
enry
2009-11-05 06:16:29 AM


marcpen: Trouble is, Sarah, you're supposed to use it against the other team.

To Palin and the teabaggers, moderates are the other team. See NY-23.

 
randomjsa
2009-11-05 06:33:50 AM


I've got news for you.

You think that if the Republican party splits and becomes a Conservative party and a Republican party it will be bad?

You're right, it would be, for the Republicans and the Democrats.

 
Dr. Mojo PhD
2009-11-05 06:44:56 AM


randomjsa: I've got news for you.

You think that if the Republican party splits and becomes a Conservative party and a Republican party it will be bad?

You're right, it would be, for the Republicans and the Democrats.


Would it be bad news for Obama, though?

 
Bad_Seed
2009-11-05 06:46:48 AM


Sabyen91: If Steele grows a pair the right could do well.

He couldn't. He doesn't actually have any influence within the party, nor could he get any if he tried. He's a token black put there because Republican strategists in all their insight and wisdom looked at the election results and thought that's the kind of thing voters wanted.

He's in absolutely no position to lead the party in any way.

 
Hobodeluxe
2009-11-05 06:54:23 AM


randomjsa: I've got news for you.

You think that if the Republican party splits and becomes a Conservative party and a Republican party it will be bad?

You're right, it would be, for the Republicans and the Democrats.


no. it would just be bad for the republicans.

 
thumpnugget
2009-11-05 06:56:51 AM


randomjsa: You think that if the Republican party splits and becomes a Conservative party and a Republican party it will be bad?

You're right, it would be, for the Republicans and the Democrats.


I would love for the Republican party to split and become two parties. Let's call them the Reagressive Party (sic) and the Responsibility Party.

The first party will pretend that nothing after 19511981 ever happened. Wait, no, no nothing after 19812001 ever happened. Wait, or maybe Nov. 2008 is definitely where time ended. Nothing could have possibly happened after that. Our Lord would not have allowed it. We must all be through the looking glass, as it were. Or something.

On the other hand, if the second party has an attention span longer than 6 months and can find a message relevant to more than 15% of the population, maybe we'll get somewhere. Don't count on it.

 
Mr. Tweedy
2009-11-05 06:57:33 AM


Random Reality Check:

Of course, my greatest fear is that these assholes could be right and that if they move far enough to the right they might just win the majority.

/After all, this same strategy worked in the 1930s.


Godwin?

 
Gunther
2009-11-05 06:58:20 AM


randomjsa: You're right, it would be, for the Republicans and the Democrats.

Hey, remember in '92 when a conservative ran alongside the republican and democrat condenders? how'd that work out for everyone?

 
Krack
2009-11-05 06:59:05 AM


Non-issue. In the same quote, he said his own opinion didn't matter either because, once the candidates had been selected, only the voters of the district had any power to select their representative.

DNRTFA - saw him say the quote on TV.

 
logic523
2009-11-05 06:59:38 AM


When there aren't enough fresh souls to feed the demons, they start eating each other...

 
Tor_Eckman
2009-11-05 07:05:03 AM


randomjsa: I've got news for you.

You think that if the Republican party splits and becomes a Conservative party and a Republican party it will be bad?

You're right, it would be, for the Republicans and the Democrats.


Look, I know you are a goofball troll and all, but even you can't be this stupid. This so called Republican/Conservative split is only the latest death knell for the right as a political power. It is exactly what many of us had hoped for when Palin quit her jerb.

There could be nothing finer for Democrats than Sarah and her pals leading the former Republican base away into obscurity where they belong.

 
Random Reality Check
2009-11-05 07:05:24 AM


randomjsa: I've got news for you.

You think that if the Republican party splits and becomes a Conservative party and a Republican party it will be bad?

You're right, it would be, for the Republicans and the Democrats.


You know, in all the years I have been reading your delusional ramblings, I don't believe there has ever been a time when I even vaguely agreed with you.

But, in all fairness, when you're right, you're right and in this case you hit the nail right on the head, squarely.

Now, do us all a favor and make this the glorious beginning of a new trend.

 
ldsr
2009-11-05 07:05:32 AM


Dear Democrats,

Since you apparently need to be reminded.

We won you lost stfu.

 
Guntram Shatterhand
2009-11-05 07:07:31 AM


Bad_Seed: Sabyen91: If Steele grows a pair the right could do well.

He couldn't. He doesn't actually have any influence within the party, nor could he get any if he tried. He's a token black put there because Republican strategists in all their insight and wisdom looked at the election results and thought that's the kind of thing voters wanted.

He's in absolutely no position to lead the party in any way.


The beautiful thing about all of this? The Republicans, despite their losses and their insistence on being the 'true' party of their little fictional America, are still aping the Democrats to a horrifying degree. NY-23 is their attempt to 'take back' their party like Obama usurped Hilary last year. Steele himself is their version of Obama that is now warring against Palin, who is their Clinton surrogate. They won't admit it, but the party is dying because they don't have any ideas, they're mimicking the other party out of some twisted idea that matching the events of the 2006-2008 elections will gain them the exact same success, and that by moving in the same manner but opposite direction will bring them back to power.

Hence, in Steele's mind, he has to take down Palin to regain the party, and hence the majority that all Republicans surely know is on 'their' side. It's not naivety, it's a lack of any kind of soul-searching on their side. They're aping the motions because deep down they know they're doing something wrong, but have no idea why it's wrong or why it doesn't fit. They will deny that they have no way, but their actions say otherwise. The party isn't just adrift, it's completely pointless after the majority of America ditched them in Bush for the events of the past eight years and the Republicans are such ideologues that they cannot face that they were pushed out of power because of their views, which to them simply cannot be...but is.

The Republicans have a schism to overcome, but it's not just the Palinites and the Fiscal Conservatives. It's the fact that they cannot get over their hundred-year Reich being five years of action followed by a complete refusal of their base, their party, and their leaders.

 
No Such Agency
2009-11-05 07:08:12 AM


marcpen:
As if Palin hasn't damaged the GOP enough, now she's using the old 'Divide and conquer' tactic. It works really well.
Trouble is, Sarah, you're supposed to use it against the other team.


See... there's Team Sarah, and if you're not on Team Sarah, you ARE the"other team".

But this guy is ultimately correct. In a representative democracy, it should be constituents who matter to a politician.

 
dsriggs
2009-11-05 07:11:32 AM


ldsr: Dear Democrats,

Since you apparently need to be reminded.

We won you lost stfu.


Your troll-fu is weak.

 
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