(Daily Kos) Stimulus plan helps create 2000 green jobs building wind farms. That's good. But the jobs were created in China. That's bad. But there were some permanent American jobs created. That's good. But only thirty. That's bad
The jobs created are short lived for wind farms. Several hundred are employed for a few months, but it only takes a few to monitor and service them after they are built.
Wait a minute. Obama is trying to create green jobs. Green. Green jobs. And there's a revolution in Iran called the green revolution. Green jobs, and green revolution. What the hell? Has anyone seen this connection? And China had Mao, and Mao had a red book, and red and green...my God, red and green. That's Christmas. Christmas...winter...November is in winter...the November Revolution? My God, what's going on here. Green...Mao...communism...Christmas. There's something here bigger than all of us. I can't see it all, it's too big. Stalin? The siege? Leningrad. Lenin. They burned Ukraine...Ukraine. K. There's a K in Ukraine. K. Kenya. Kenya! Christmas in Kenya...Mao...red...green...Lizards are green. Lizards...V. Aliens! Aliens! Holy hell, I'm not sure what's going on here, but this is bad. This is really bad.
BGates:The jobs created are short lived for wind farms. Several hundred are employed for a few months, but it only takes a few to monitor and service them after they are built.
So are construction jobs. When you finish one, you move on to the next. I'm not sure I understand the point.
That said, we are really screwing the pooch with job creation in this country and I'm not sure there's anything Obama can do about it at this point. Our "loyal" corporations have sold us down the river in the name of profit and we let them, and now that China has gained their expertise, they're selling the corporations down the river. Circle of life.
Pocket Ninja:Wait a minute. Obama is trying to create green jobs. Green. Green jobs. And there's a revolution in Iran called the green revolution. Green jobs, and green revolution. What the hell? Has anyone seen this connection? And China had Mao, and Mao had a red book, and red and green...my God, red and green. That's Christmas. Christmas...winter...November is in winter...the November Revolution? My God, what's going on here. Green...Mao...communism...Christmas. There's something here bigger than all of us. I can't see it all, it's too big. Stalin? The siege? Leningrad. Lenin. They burned Ukraine...Ukraine. K. There's a K in Ukraine. K. Kenya. Kenya! Christmas in Kenya...Mao...red...green...Lizards are green. Lizards...V. Aliens! Aliens! Holy hell, I'm not sure what's going on here, but this is bad. This is really bad.
If Krugman is right, and he usually is, we're going to need to create more jobs than we EVER have in 10 years just to get back to where we were in 2007.
I honestly don't know why anyone would want to be President or Treasury Secretary right now. What a shiat job.
It's going to take a LONG time to recover to anywhere near where we were and our patience is less than a 5 year old's. Even if you cut corporate tax rates to zero, what incentive is there for a company to hire in America right now when they can focus on Asia where they'll get a better ROI? Their median wages are rising while ours are stagnant or falling.
The Stimulus was a good band-aid as a short-term solution, but it's not meant to replace private sector spending permanently. We've got serious economic problems on our hands and we're all busy flinging poo at each other. Good times.
Here's one reason why China might have an edge in the actual turbine manufacturing.
Tighter limits on production and exports - part of a plan by the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology - would ensure China had the supply for its own technological and economic needs and force more manufacturers to make their wares in China in order to have access to the minerals.
In each of the past three years, China has reduced the amount of rare earths that can be exported. This year quotas are on track to be the smallest yet. But what is starting to alarm Western governments and multinationals is the possibility they will be further restricted. ... China produces over 99 per cent of dysprosium and terbium and 95 per cent of neodymium. These are vital to many green energy technologies, including high-strength, lightweight magnets used in wind turbines, as well as military applications.
BGates:The jobs created are short lived for wind farms. Several hundred are employed for a few months, but it only takes a few to monitor and service them after they are built.
only 30 for a 600 megawatt plant? It's not near as wasteful as I suspected. I'm not nearly as annoyed by these projects as I was 5 minutes ago. If so few people are needed to run them why the hell are the kilowatt hours so expensive then? Simply because all the down time when the wind is not blowing? Or are they just that more expensive to build than nuclear?
ragekage
2009-11-04 08:25:42 PM
BGates
2009-11-04 08:27:24 PM
Pocket Ninja
2009-11-04 09:21:31 PM
johnsoninca
2009-11-04 09:24:51 PM
Can I go now?
PapermonkeyExpress
2009-11-04 09:26:43 PM
Mentat
2009-11-04 09:45:34 PM
So are construction jobs. When you finish one, you move on to the next. I'm not sure I understand the point.
That said, we are really screwing the pooch with job creation in this country and I'm not sure there's anything Obama can do about it at this point. Our "loyal" corporations have sold us down the river in the name of profit and we let them, and now that China has gained their expertise, they're selling the corporations down the river. Circle of life.
Barakku
2009-11-04 09:55:30 PM
Relatively Obscure
2009-11-04 10:28:06 PM
Glenn, is that you?!
Etchy333
2009-11-04 10:38:24 PM
The toppings are from China, so potassium benzoate should be the least of your worries.
Sybilll
2009-11-04 10:46:59 PM
NewportBarGuy
2009-11-04 10:55:04 PM
I honestly don't know why anyone would want to be President or Treasury Secretary right now. What a shiat job.
It's going to take a LONG time to recover to anywhere near where we were and our patience is less than a 5 year old's. Even if you cut corporate tax rates to zero, what incentive is there for a company to hire in America right now when they can focus on Asia where they'll get a better ROI? Their median wages are rising while ours are stagnant or falling.
The Stimulus was a good band-aid as a short-term solution, but it's not meant to replace private sector spending permanently. We've got serious economic problems on our hands and we're all busy flinging poo at each other. Good times.
/Nice headline.
Marcus Aurelius
2009-11-04 10:55:24 PM
Outshined_One
2009-11-04 10:57:18 PM
Marcus Aurelius
2009-11-04 11:00:04 PM
Their median wages are rising while ours are stagnant or falling
How many public schools in China teach Creationism, do you suppose?
Education correlates to wealth higher than any other indicator, and unfortunately our country no longer values that commodity. It's "Socialist".
soy_bomb
2009-11-04 11:11:21 PM
hershy799
2009-11-04 11:13:02 PM
iceberg theory
2009-11-04 11:13:46 PM
Korovyov
2009-11-04 11:15:02 PM
Tighter limits on production and exports - part of a plan by the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology - would ensure China had the supply for its own technological and economic needs and force more manufacturers to make their wares in China in order to have access to the minerals.
In each of the past three years, China has reduced the amount of rare earths that can be exported. This year quotas are on track to be the smallest yet. But what is starting to alarm Western governments and multinationals is the possibility they will be further restricted.
...
China produces over 99 per cent of dysprosium and terbium and 95 per cent of neodymium. These are vital to many green energy technologies, including high-strength, lightweight magnets used in wind turbines, as well as military applications.
http://www.theage.com.au/business/concerns-raised-over-chinas-rare-earth-domin an ce-20090901-f6xw.html
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener
2009-11-04 11:15:21 PM
/thank you, Steve
MrCab
2009-11-04 11:16:07 PM
The toppings are from China, so potassium benzoate should be the least of your worries.
The positions require handling Potasium Benzoate
/ done in one
Hick
2009-11-04 11:18:48 PM
GoodyearPimp
2009-11-04 11:21:40 PM
/different episode, I know
Hector Remarkable
2009-11-04 11:22:59 PM
Hick
2009-11-04 11:23:10 PM
Good for them
relcec
2009-11-04 11:24:06 PM
only 30 for a 600 megawatt plant? It's not near as wasteful as I suspected. I'm not nearly as annoyed by these projects as I was 5 minutes ago. If so few people are needed to run them why the hell are the kilowatt hours so expensive then? Simply because all the down time when the wind is not blowing? Or are they just that more expensive to build than nuclear?