Yeah, because two heterosexual males could never work together in any situation. They're all gay, right?
Holmes & Watson
Batman & Robin
Clinton & Gore
Ren & Stimpy
Beavis & Butthead
Abbott & Costello
Laurel & Hardy
Godzilla & Rodan
Caine & Able
Laverne & Shirley
Huntley & Brinkley
Kirk & Spock
Wallace & Gromit
Wallace & Ladmo

All gay, right?

Okay... fine... whatever. Guess what then... Frank N. Furter is STRAIGHT!!! HA HA!! Howdyalike Them Apples? Neener Farking Neener!

Poop all over my childhood, will ya?

Boritom:
Poop all over my childhood, will ya?


If two men are are perceived as affectionate it retroactively ruins your childhood?

/Cain & Able?
//would that count as bromance?

Keep digging Watson.

WTF is this shiat? Holmes + Watson + explosions + ass kicking + more explosions + slow-motion ass-kicking explosions?fark you, hollywood, and all your shiatty "blockbusters".

Why does it look like an action movie? why why why why why why why why?

/Nero Wolfe FTW

FTFA: "if you haven't already seen "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang", do yourself a favor and go rent that movie tonight"

I'm going to have to second that. It may be the most underrated and underappreciated comedy crime caper of the last decade.

Grat, the Ghye agenda out to ruin yet another movie or in this case what looks like a poor movie even worse.


/Holmes Purist.

So, "juuuust the right amount" = none. Glad you pointed this out, subby.

/ this should not be an action movie
// but should have Robert Downey

How many different takes and ripoffs of Sherlock have there been? Seriously guys I wouldn't get worked up about this. I mean are you gonna get upset about the 3D cartoon version of Scrooge?

He never intended animation!!!

Boritom: Yeah, because two heterosexual males could never work together in any situation. They're all gay, right?

At least three of your pairings involve animals, and one's a pair of women. That undercuts your point a little.

I consider myself a Holmes purist as well, and this movie doesn't appeal to me at all.
Dig up Jeremy Brett.

Oh yeah, you got to have the homo-eroticism if you want to solve the mystery.

Sherlock Holmes goes Wild Wild West, from the look of it. In tone, and a bit in style, if not a direct western.

/Since when was Holmes in Fight Club?

Next up: Jet Li as Charlie Chan!

Boritom: Yeah, because two heterosexual males could never work together in any situation. They're all gay, right?
Holmes & Watson
Batman & Robin
Clinton & Gore
Ren & Stimpy
Beavis & Butthead
Abbott & Costello
Laurel & Hardy
Godzilla & Rodan
Caine & Able
Laverne & Shirley
Huntley & Brinkley
Kirk & Spock
Wallace & Gromit
Wallace & Ladmo

All gay, right?

Okay... fine... whatever. Guess what then... Frank N. Furter is STRAIGHT!!! HA HA!! Howdyalike Them Apples? Neener Farking Neener!

Poop all over my childhood, will ya?

You forgot House and Wilson.

Which considering the previous ones implying that he loves his women especially with him as a topping, would probably indicate he's bi

Boritom: Yeah, because two heterosexual males could never work together in any situation. They're all gay, right?
Holmes & Watson
Batman & Robin
Clinton & Gore
Ren & Stimpy
Beavis & Butthead
Abbott & Costello
Laurel & Hardy
Godzilla & Rodan
Caine & Able
Laverne & Shirley
Huntley & Brinkley
Kirk & Spock
Wallace & Gromit
Wallace & Ladmo

All gay, right?

Okay... fine... whatever. Guess what then... Frank N. Furter is STRAIGHT!!! HA HA!! Howdyalike Them Apples? Neener Farking Neener!

Poop all over my childhood, will ya?


Actually, in films, most of the time, despite the homoesque scenario, the screenplay will usually have some mention of a normal heterosexual component to one or both of the male leads.

Look out for it next time. It happens time and time again. Usually, one is divorced. Or we see some split second interaction, like some girl leaving the room, or signs that a female was in the bed the night before. It's a Hollywood standard.

I don't care what any of you say. I'm gonna go watch it opening night. Although the comparison to Wild Wild West is somewhat disheartening.

cgraves67: I don't care what any of you say. I'm gonna go watch it opening night. Although the comparison to Wild Wild West is somewhat disheartening.

I'm hoping the producers are afraid no one will go see a mystery movie, and so are putting out a slightly deceptive "ACTION ACTION ACTION COMEDY!" trailer to get butts in the seats.

I like the actors, but this movie looks too goddamn stupid to even bother with. I cringed the first time I saw the preview in theaters.

Hector Remarkable: Oh yeah, you got to have the homo-eroticism if you want to solve the mystery.

Boritom: Poop all over my childhood, will ya?

You're childhood is "pooped" on because an anonymous person on a message board made a joke in their headline?

I haven't read a whole lot of Holmes stories, but I don't recall any occasion when Holmes beat up anyone.

Was he a brutish, uncivilized brawler in the stories that I missed? Or did they just completely change the character for the sake of being more like House?

strangeguitar: I consider myself a Holmes purist as well, and this movie doesn't appeal to me at all.
Dig up Jeremy Brett.

Basil Rathbone.

Never mind that Doyle wrote the novels at a time when professors were buggering the shiat out of their students - nope, no homoeroticism there...

Boritom:

Gotta be honest. I'm pretty sure Batman molested Robin as a young boy.

Special ED209: strangeguitar: I consider myself a Holmes purist as well, and this movie doesn't appeal to me at all.
Dig up Jeremy Brett.

Basil Rathbone.

Jeremy Brett A&E/Granada TV series did a fine job.

"Holmes is the hardest part I have ever played - harder than Hamlet or Macbeth. Holmes has become the dark side of the moon for me. He is moody and solitary and underneath I am really sociable and gregarious. It has all got too dangerous".

Sir Vanderhoot: I haven't read a whole lot of Holmes stories, but I don't recall any occasion when Holmes beat up anyone.

Was he a brutish, uncivilized brawler in the stories that I missed? Or did they just completely change the character for the sake of being more like House?

He did get into physical fights and was good at it but I can't remember in which stories though. I think he did some boxing in college or something.

That movie looks awful.

I say that as a huge RDJ fan, and a lifelong Holmes fan.

An action movie, with one-line "witticisms." Just wow.

Fraggler: WTF is this shiat? Holmes + Watson + explosions + ass kicking + more explosions + slow-motion ass-kicking explosions?fark you, hollywood, and all your shiatty "blockbusters".

No. Fark you. This movie looks farking awesome. You haters can go back to watching two gay cowboys eating pudding and exploring their forbidden love. The rest of us are going to enjoy the shiat out of these two gay brits blowing up London, and each other, while exploring their forbidden love.

Boritom: Yeah, because two heterosexual males could never work together in any situation. They're all gay, right?
Holmes & Watson
Batman & Robin
Clinton & Gore
Ren & Stimpy
Beavis & Butthead
Abbott & Costello
Laurel & Hardy
Godzilla & Rodan
Caine & Able
Laverne & Shirley
Huntley & Brinkley
Kirk & Spock
Wallace & Gromit
Wallace & Ladmo

All gay, right?

Okay... fine... whatever. Guess what then... Frank N. Furter is STRAIGHT!!! HA HA!! Howdyalike Them Apples? Neener Farking Neener!

Poop all over my childhood, will ya?

Thank you for including Wallace and Ladmo. I watched it through the bars on my crib

IMDWalrus: Boritom: Yeah, because two heterosexual males could never work together in any situation. They're all gay, right?

At least three of your pairings involve animals, and one's a pair of women. That undercuts your point a little.

Let him go. He's on a roll. 'Sides, there's nothing wrong with two gay women working together.

Headline conveys juuuust the right amount of homophobia.

/Not comfortable with your sexuality Subby?

This movie looks like crap. I could live with the gay angle (Even though Watson was married and Holmes is consistently written as bordering on asexual) but this looks like it will have NONE of the elements that made Doyle's Holmes' stories so Sherlockian.

This looks farking awesome. I say that as a Basil Rathbone purist.

Anyway,
"Get that out of my face." "It's not in your face, it's in my hand." Hah.

icanhazstapler: Fraggler: WTF is this shiat? Holmes + Watson + explosions + ass kicking + more explosions + slow-motion ass-kicking explosions?fark you, hollywood, and all your shiatty "blockbusters".

No. Fark you. This movie looks farking awesome. You haters can go back to watching two gay cowboys eating pudding and exploring their forbidden love. The rest of us are going to enjoy the shiat out of these two gay brits blowing up London, and each other, while exploring their forbidden love.

I think it's not actually THAT gay. It's just tongue-in-cheek acknowledging how awesomely gay Holmes and Watson seem today, as two bachelors who live together, bicker like an old married couple, and solve crimes together (while one of the pair does recreational drugs, plays the violin and hates women.) Come on. I like that they're playing with this angle, because like Lord of the Rings, everyone's going to be finding gay moments anyway.

As for the quality of the movie, I am a big film snob. I am working my way through the entire Criterion Collection, for example. But there is an art to a truly awesome action movie that has a great plot, dynamic leads, badass villain, tons of explosions and visually exciting action sequences, and this trailer looks promising. I hope it lives up to that promise. I'll be really disappointed if Guy Ritchie f*cks this up, because I love Sherlock Holmes.

However, I am not yet ready for a sexy, muscular Hercule Poirot suggestively bantering with a smouldering, dashing Captain Hastings while sh*t blows up and guys in bowler hats try to kill them. I just want to put that out there.

I'd like to remind everyone that Ren and Stimpy were gay. "Stimpy, how many times do I have to remind you, I'm the pitcher, you're the catcher".

I don't see how anyone can be a "Holmes purist" and enjoy watching Basil Rathbone fight Nazis.

The Seven Percent Solution blew the lid off the battered silicon dispatch box^ and there's no turning back now.

I rather enjoy the various permutations that Holmes has enjoyed over the years. There's just something really cool about watching him in unconventional (to Holmes) situations.

Like fighting Cthulhu. (new window)

/movie looks cool

Seth'n'Spectrum: FTFA: "if you haven't already seen "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang", do yourself a favor and go rent that movie tonight"

I'm going to have to second that. It may be the most underrated and underappreciated comedy crime caper of the last decade.

I'll second that. The Russian Roulette scene had me laughing for about 20 minutes.

Did Robert Downey Jr. make a deal with the devil? Because why in the hell would anybody cast him as Sherlock Holmes fer chrissakes?!?!? He's supposed to be a tall skinny older British gent.

WTF people, W. T. F.

Boritom: Yeah, because two heterosexual males could never work together in any situation. They're all gay, right?
Holmes & Watson
Batman & Robin
Clinton & Gore
Ren & Stimpy
Beavis & Butthead
Abbott & Costello
Laurel & Hardy
Godzilla & Rodan
Caine & Able
Laverne & Shirley
Huntley & Brinkley
Kirk & Spock
Wallace & Gromit
Wallace & Ladmo

All gay, right?

Okay... fine... whatever. Guess what then... Frank N. Furter is STRAIGHT!!! HA HA!! Howdyalike Them Apples? Neener Farking Neener!

Poop all over my childhood, will ya?

Godzilla and Rodan?

I found the following quote HERE

It is obvious from reading the canon as a whole that Holmes, physically, would no doubt have been more than a match for any
of his adversaries. He was tall, over six feet, and he had the sort of wiry, ligamentous strength associated with Thomas Topham,
Charles Vansittart and Adrian Schmidt. We learned in Adventure of the Empty House, for instance, that Holmes was also an expert
in "Baritsu", a Japanese form of self defense. And in Dr. Watson's Study in Scarlet we are told that Watson considered his friend to be a truly superior pugilist.

talkertopc: Sir Vanderhoot: I haven't read a whole lot of Holmes stories, but I don't recall any occasion when Holmes beat up anyone.

Was he a brutish, uncivilized brawler in the stories that I missed? Or did they just completely change the character for the sake of being more like House?

He did get into physical fights and was good at it but I can't remember in which stories though. I think he did some boxing in college or something.

In "The Adventure of the Naval Treaty", he kicks the crap out of a dude with a knife. In "The Adventure of the Speckled Band". he bends a fireplace poker with his bare hands. Wikipedia claims that he is an excellent fighter and in quite good shape. Adding some action to it does not change Holmes much. I also would guess that the trailer is chock full of action because Holmesian deduction doesn't look exciting in a 30 second clip.

/Excited.
//a bit of a purist.

fusillade762: I'll second that. The Russian Roulette scene had me laughing for about 20 minutes.

"Yeah, there was an 8% chance."
"8%? Who taught you math? Stop multiplying!"

There is so much quotability in that film, my favourite line probably being, "But what do I know, I'm a bear. I bite the heads off fish".

/true gem, but in the rough.

I haven't read a whole lot of Holmes stories, but the movie looks pretty cool.

People have mentioned his fighting skills. Don't forget he was also mighty strong. I think it was in the Speckled Band that he was threatened by a guy bending a fireplace poker and Holmes straightened it out with his hands.

As for the the gay angle. Wasn't it more normal for men to show more affection openly back then? I've seen pictures that show men strolling up the street arm in arm.

Also, Jeremy Brett was Holmes. None better. Even including Basil. As Adam West is to the Dark Knight, so Jeremy is to Basil.

Holmes knew boxing. This was established in the stories. Holmes was a great detective that sometimes needed to use a little physical violence, this was established as well. It was also established that Watson was a bit of a womanizer, and that Holmes loathed women. Just look at the story 'Greek Translator'. Holmes' older brother outside asks Holmes if he still harbors such a strong hatred for the female gender.

They never explain why, but it's very clearly there. There's no way Holmes would have the reaction to the female characters that he does in the trailers. It just goes against the already established character.

And Jeremy Brett is a thousand times better as Holmes that Robert Downing Jr, no matter how amazing the script for the movie could have been. Kevin Conroy is the voice of Batman, Mark Hammill is the Joker, and Jeremy Brett is Sherlock Holmes, end story.

/seriously, Sherlock Holmes is not an action adventure story
//will probably catch this on Hulu, not even worth renting the DVD

Hollywood would make a nice Glass Parking Lot

Katie Holmes and Emma Watson?

fusillade762: Seth'n'Spectrum: FTFA: "if you haven't already seen "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang", do yourself a favor and go rent that movie tonight"

I'm going to have to second that. It may be the most underrated and underappreciated comedy crime caper of the last decade.

I'll second that. The Russian Roulette scene had me laughing for about 20 minutes.

I came here to emphasize the "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" recommendation, but I see you two have it covered.