What happened to "We're Mainers! Don't tell us what to do!"?

Not even a WWII vet could convince you crusty old f*cks to leave people alone and let them live in peace. (new window)

Screw you, Maine! You used to be cool!

Elections like these and Prop 8 in California will be looked upon by society with shame in the not-too-distant future.

I am still sickened by what happened in my state. My condolences to the non-bigoted Farkers in Maine.

TV commercials produced by Schubert Flint Public Affairs, a Sacramento consulting firm, feature parents lamenting that their young children are being taught in school that marriage between two women or two men is normal. Nearly identical ads were highly effective in California.

"I refer to it as sustainable advertising, where you have the same themes," said Scott Fish, communications director for Stand for Marriage Maine. "It's the same issue, and many of the concerns were the same."

Farking despicable.

That's it Maine. You're on notice.

how close was the vote, does anyone know?

Cagey B: TV commercials produced by Schubert Flint Public Affairs, a Sacramento consulting firm, feature parents lamenting that their young children are being taught in school that marriage between two women or two men is normal. Nearly identical ads were highly effective in California.

"I refer to it as sustainable advertising, where you have the same themes," said Scott Fish, communications director for Stand for Marriage Maine. "It's the same issue, and many of the concerns were the same."

Farking despicable.

I hope they did the one about "a gay storm is coming." That's my favorite.

Great work, bigots.
You had to make this state suck a little more.

Cagey B: Elections like these and Prop 8 in California will be looked upon by society with shame in the not-too-distant future.

I am still sickened by what happened in my state. My condolences to the non-bigoted Farkers in Maine.

this.

I feel so bad for Phillip. I wanted to see equality in Maine anyway, but I really wanted that heroic old man to get a chance to see it in his lifetime and I am really disappointed that this didn't go the right way.

Bigots need to realize this is inevitable- you can fight it, but we're right and we'll outlast you.

The tyranny of the majority wins again. Fred Phelps is smiling tonight. Time to start the boycotts and protests.

lajimi: Fred Phelps is smiling tonight.

Fred Phelps doesn't care about gay marriage. He cares about being inflammatory and provoking people into attacking his group so he can sue.

the funding for the initiative's campaign:

Below is a chart that outlines major cash contributions to the Stand For Marriage Maine Campaign, as of October 2009:

Contributor Amount
National Organization for Marriage $1.1 million
Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland $550,000
Focus on the Family of Colorado $50,000
Knights of Columbus $50,000
Catholic Charities, Diocese of Evansville $1,000
Archdiocese of Santa Fe $1,000

Below is a chart that outlines major cash and in-kind contributions to the Protect Maine Equality Campaign, as of October 2009:
Contributor Amount
Human Rights Campaign $155,000
Equality Maine $90,000
Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders $87,000
National Gay and Lesbian Task Force $75,000
American Civil Liberties Union $10,000

from Wiki (new window)

Maine, you're an embarrassment to the northeast. GTFO.

Also is pisses me off all these organizations are called "Stand for Marriage" "Protect Marriage" "Something about gays stealing our Marriage" You don't give a damn about actual marriage or you'd be spending your time trying to get divorce outlawed or some sort of mandatory counseling before a marriage license could be issues.

Gwendolyn: could be issues issued.

They like marriage so much, they think fewer people should be allowed to do it.

Cagey B: Elections like these and Prop 8 in California will be looked upon by society with shame in the not-too-distant future.

They're already looked upon with shame by some, including myself.

Cyberluddite: They're already looked upon with shame by some, including myself.

Well at least you were able to make yourself appear above it all. Good for you!

Ender's: Well at least you were able to make yourself appear above it all. Good for you!

I'm not sure WTF that is supposed to mean, but I'm not trying to "appear" to be anything. My own state passed Prop 8 last year, and though I sure as hell didn't vote for it, I'm nevertheless deeply ashamed by that--as a Californian and as an American. I thought we as a people were better than that.

Cyberluddite: Ender's: Well at least you were able to make yourself appear above it all. Good for you!

I'm not sure WTF that is supposed to mean, but I'm not trying to "appear" to be anything. My own state passed Prop 8 last year, and though I sure as hell didn't vote for it, I'm nevertheless deeply ashamed by that--as a Californian and as an American. I thought we as a people were better than that.

I was reading a manga, written in 2005, and they referenced gays being able to marry in San Francisco. I found it ironic that California is thought of as gay friendly in other countries and shiat like Prop 8 gets passed.

Gwendolyn: I was reading a manga, written in 2005, and they referenced gays being able to marry in San Francisco. I found it ironic that California is thought of as gay friendly in other countries and shiat like Prop 8 gets passed.

Prop 8 didn't get passed because of San Francisco or Los Angeles.

The big cities there ARE pretty gay friendly and have been for a really long time. It's the other areas that passed it.

Cyberluddite: I'm not sure WTF that is supposed to mean, but I'm not trying to "appear" to be anything. My own state passed Prop 8 last year, and though I sure as hell didn't vote for it, I'm nevertheless deeply ashamed by that--as a Californian and as an American. I thought we as a people were better than that.

I 100% agree with you.


/Californian
//Voted against

Weaver95: how close was the vote, does anyone know?

Another article said 52.5 to 47 and some change.

This sort of thing should not be up for a damn popularity contest. This is no different than miscegenation laws. Either remove the legal status of marriage altogether and make it strictly a jesus-thing, or allow any two consenting single adults to appoint each other as their legal companion.

Marriage isn't about jesus laws, or remarriage would be illegal unless the wife cheated on teh husband (and she would be stoned to death as a result). It isn't about the ability to procreate, or sterile heterosexual people wouldn't be allowed to marry. It's about uptight religious people who think that whatever they don't want, no one else should be allowed to have.

Bigotry, alive and well in 2009. So - racial civil rights marches in the late 60s, and 40 years later we have a miscegenated President. That means about 2060 we'll have a LBGTQWTFBBQ President.

I really, really hate NOM.

Democracy is like two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for lunch


-Benjamin Franklin

Dear Maine,
You used to be cool. Now you've turned into Cartman. What gives?

Pathetic. Maine, fall into the Pacific after tectonic forces cause such a massive upheaval of the state to hurl this across the United States, preferably with debris from the cracked crust colliding with every single person in California who voted for the similar measure. As well, I hope the Pacific is nothing but sulfuric acid.

Seeing as my ex-fiance is from Maine and I just found out she's sleeping with my best friend, I can say that I'm not surprised that the rest of that state got together to ruin other people's chances at happiness.

/not getting a kick out of these replies... or life.

Sym_pathetic: Seeing as my ex-fiance is from Maine and I just found out she's sleeping with my best friend, I can say that I'm not surprised that the rest of that state got together to ruin other people's chances at happiness.

/not getting a kick out of these replies... or life.


I know you don't want to hear this and you're going to want to cockpunch me for saying it but you're better off without her and your best friend really wasn't. It will get better.

/from experience

Maybe gay people need to decide that you wont ever get your seat on the bus by asking the other passengers for permission.

Rise up, hold your own marriages loudly and in public, be an utter pain about it, write married on every form, claim every entitlement and tax break you ARE entitled to whatever the coonts say. If married people get to do something then do it, and let only physical force prevent you.. see how they like their oh so farking christian bigotry being played out on the worlds televisions in the form of tasers and handcuffs.

Let them try to arrest you.. do not ever ever be meek. the meek inherit shiat.

The vote was lost because the "YES On 1" crowd turned the question from, Do you want to repeal the gay marriage law?" to "OMG!! If we allow this they will teach homo-studies to my kids!!"

That was pretty much their whole argument. Stupid sheeple.

/..oh yeah, -1 for USA Today link. Could have at least took it from BDN.

The American people have spoken: NO same sex marriage. In all 31 states in which it was up for a popular vote, same sex marriage was voted down, only the liberal and activist judges are the ones who reverse the popular vote in some states. We need a constitutional admendment stating that marriage is only between and man and a women and put this thing to rest. It's not bias to reject something that isn't normal or natural, it's just good morals. And homosexuality is NOT normal OR natural. They need help and deliverance. But the American people have spoken. Are we not a Democracy? Are we not a Republic? Do we not vote on issues and accept those issues when the majority rules? Well, the majority rules on this issue--NO gay marriage.

So who are you going to blame this time? The Mormon's again?

Or are you going to just rush off to court again and say 'will of the people be damned if we don't like it'?

Keep working at it. You keep losing these measures by small margins but eventually you will get there.

tony41454: The American people have spoken: NO same sex marriage. In all 31 states in which it was up for a popular vote, same sex marriage was voted down, only the liberal and activist judges are the ones who reverse the popular vote in some states. We need a constitutional admendment stating that marriage is only between and man and a women and put this thing to rest. It's not bias to reject something that isn't normal or natural, it's just good morals. And homosexuality is NOT normal OR natural. They need help and deliverance. But the American people have spoken. Are we not a Democracy? Are we not a Republic? Do we not vote on issues and accept those issues when the majority rules? Well, the majority rules on this issue--NO gay marriage.

10/10, despite the incoming 1/10 ratings you should be able to single-handedly double the number of posts in this topic

tony41454: And homosexuality is NOT normal OR natural. They need help and deliverance.

I believe you should lose a couple points because this is too obvious or too stupid to be distinguishable from trolling. Frankly, the notion of an amendment while trumpeting majority rules should be inflammatory enough to garner enough responses.

Gurlugon: tony41454: The American people have spoken: NO same sex marriage. In all 31 states in which it was up for a popular vote, same sex marriage was voted down, only the liberal and activist judges are the ones who reverse the popular vote in some states. We need a constitutional admendment stating that marriage is only between and man and a women and put this thing to rest. It's not bias to reject something that isn't normal or natural, it's just good morals. And homosexuality is NOT normal OR natural. They need help and deliverance. But the American people have spoken. Are we not a Democracy? Are we not a Republic? Do we not vote on issues and accept those issues when the majority rules? Well, the majority rules on this issue--NO gay marriage.

10/10, despite the incoming 1/10 ratings you should be able to single-handedly double the number of posts in this topic

The Maryland judge gives it a 9.0

tony41454: The American people have spoken: NO same sex marriage. In all 31 states in which it was up for a popular vote, same sex marriage was voted down, only the liberal and activist judges are the ones who reverse the popular vote in some states. We need a constitutional admendment stating that marriage is only between and man and a women and put this thing to rest. It's not bias to reject something that isn't normal or natural, it's just good morals. And homosexuality is NOT normal OR natural. They need help and deliverance. But the American people have spoken. Are we not a Democracy? Are we not a Republic? Do we not vote on issues and accept those issues when the majority rules? Well, the majority rules on this issue--NO gay marriage.

10/10, outstanding troll. Avoided going completely over the top, and sadly very believable given the campaigning those "marriage" proponents have done.

/unless you mean it, then I hope you get full-blown AIDS.

syrynxx: This sort of thing should not be up for a damn popularity contest.

Democracy is grand when the idiots voting decide to vote your way!

This is no different than miscegenation laws.

Actually it's completely different. Equal protection of the law can't be based on race. Fourteenth Amendment, Civil Rights Acts. Those do not mention, and do not apply to whom a person chooses to fark. Congress needs only to amend/pass a new Civil Rights Act, and these would be challengeable in Federal court.

BigotryCowardice, alive and well in 2009. So - racial civil rights marches in the late 60s, and 40 years later we have a miscegenated President. That means about 2060 we'll have a LBGTQWTFBBQ President.

FTFY. The Cowardice is in Washington, DC. In Congress for not formally amending the Civil Rights Acts. In the While House for just ignoring the law, and doing WTF ever makes their sycophants happy.

Personally, I'm not sure what the big deal is, or why, even there's a reason for Government to be involved in marriage anymore. The initial impetus for government sanction was based on anti-miscegenation desires. Before, it'd always been handled as a religious matter. All the "benefits" of marriage could be conveyed in a legal, personal contract executed like a will. Draft it with a lawyer, get it notarized, and go from there. Make that apply to straight unions, too, and leave the weddings to the Church.

/JMO, as someone who really doesn't have strong feelings about the issue, and understands both sides of the argument
//But being upset about popular democracy, the ballot measure, etc. makes "progressives" look like some of the biggest hypocrites in the world right now.

hurdboy: Actually it's completely different. Equal protection of the law can't be based on race. Fourteenth Amendment, Civil Rights Acts.

With this, you have made it clear you don't have the foggiest idea what you are talking about.

Cagey B: Elections like these and Prop 8 in California will be looked upon by society with shame in the not-too-distant future.


Your society maybe, not mine. You can't fault the public for wanting to maintain some semblance of morality. You still have the Bravo channel to ease your pain.

Gurlugon
Vangor
Gwendolyn
libertylad

unless you mean it, then I hope you get full-blown AIDS.

My, my. There's no hate like liberal hate, is there? It doesn't matter what any of you say, I stand by my statement. This issue was up for a vote, it was voted down. Accept that. The American people do not want gay people marrying, simple as that. Get used to the idea. Besides, it's wrong.

tony41454: My, my. There's no hate like liberal hate, is there? It doesn't matter what any of you say, I stand by my statement. This issue was up for a vote, it was voted down. Accept that. The American people do not want gay people marrying, simple as that. Get used to the idea. Besides, it's wrong.

Nice followup.

Oh, and hate breeds hate, dipshiat.

tony41454: The American people have spoken: NO same sex marriage. In all 31 states in which it was up for a popular vote, same sex marriage was voted down, only the liberal and activist judges are the ones who reverse the popular vote in some states. We need a constitutional admendment stating that marriage is only between and man and a women and put this thing to rest. It's not bias to reject something that isn't normal or natural, it's just good morals. And homosexuality is NOT normal OR natural. They need help and deliverance. But the American people have spoken. Are we not a Democracy? Are we not a Republic? Do we not vote on issues and accept those issues when the majority rules? Well, the majority rules on this issue--NO gay marriage.

This is why direct democracy is a bad idea. There are still too many idiots.

tony41454: There's no hate like liberal hate, is there?

Hate? Those other three applauded your efforts to remain in character of an imbecile so perfectly. Certainly you possess an uncanny acting talent or a contract with the devil to do so so fluidly and continue without blood plummeting from your nose?

tony41454: The American people do not want gay people marrying, simple as that. Get used to the idea.

You've got a handful of years left before this inane gay marriage ban is over. Enjoy it while it lasts.

tony41454: Get used to the idea.

Attaboy. Don't ever give up your idiotic beliefs.

Vangor: Hate? Those other three applauded your efforts to remain in character of an imbecile so perfectly. Certainly you possess an uncanny acting talent or a contract with the devil to do so so fluidly and continue without blood plummeting from your nose?

Yeah I was giving him a thumbs up for a good job. It's going to be a slight deduction for trying to hard with the last one.


Why yes that is hotlinked.

At least it looks like WA will allow us our separate water fountains. syrynxx: Another article said 52.5 to 47 and some change

Much of Portland hasn't come in yet, which means "No" will probably gain a percentage point, making it a 52/48 split, just like California. Fark you, bigots. You're still losing. It's just taking longer than we thought.

A setback.

The general trend is towards acceptance, even it it takes another decade or two. We just need to wait for the old fogey stagnant-brained conservatives to die off.

Gwendolyn: Vangor: Hate? Those other three applauded your efforts to remain in character of an imbecile so perfectly. Certainly you possess an uncanny acting talent or a contract with the devil to do so so fluidly and continue without blood plummeting from your nose?

Yeah I was giving him a thumbs up for a good job. It's going to be a slight deduction for trying to hard with the last one.


Why yes that is hotlinked.

I believe he's sincere. And a horrible human being.