With all due respect for the stress of shooting situations, 475 shots fired by the police resulting in two ventilated bystanders and a suspect with a nicked ankle says the answer is 'No.'

I remember a time when very few of the cops I knew had ever used their guns in the line of duty. They seemed to have methods to deal with people before it got to that point. All of a sudden, they get the Taser and the stigma of shooting a person is gone. Take away the Tasers and we'll be seeing cops shooting people left and right just out of habit.

And as soon as dolphins learn how to use those, we are DOOMED.

I have seen the future, and it's people constantly zapping each other with Stunbrellas™ and some such for no apparent reason.

Cagey B: I have seen the future, and it's people constantly zapping each other with Stunbrellas™ and some such for no apparent reason.

It's when they start combining Tasers and Snuggies that we'll all be in deep, deep trouble...

What the hell is a metre?

Cagey B: I have seen the future, and it's people constantly zapping each other with Stunbrellas™ and some such for no apparent reason.

Oswald Cobblepot, is that you?!

holy shiat, how the hell can that work. i would assume it would have to somehow lodge in a person. am i wrong?

Im TASER certified. I volunteered to get TASERed just to see what it was like. I took the shot in the back and the full 5 second ride. Dont get farking TASED. Mother of God was that freaking terrible. I work in a jail and I love listening to inmates brag to their cellmates about how they got TASED and either it didn't hurt at all or they got up right afterwards. Duh, thats the point. It's not supposed to cause long lasting effects. I got up too, after they pulled the darts from my back.

youtube the term "xrep". Its TASERs new shotgun taser. 100 feet range and 20 second ride. It's got four prongs that are basically straightened fish hooks that embed into your skin and the other half of the body drops down like 12 inches or so with makes contact with the skin completing the circuit.

During training, we were watching a video of the senior master instructor. He's been TASERED thousands of times and its the same every time, hasn't built up an immunity to it yet. If you watch the video, he's the one getting shot with it.

Dairy King: Im TASER certified. I volunteered to get TASERed just to see what it was like. I took the shot in the back and the full 5 second ride. Dont get farking TASED. Mother of God was that freaking terrible. I work in a jail and I love listening to inmates brag to their cellmates about how they got TASED and either it didn't hurt at all or they got up right afterwards. Duh, thats the point. It's not supposed to cause long lasting effects. I got up too, after they pulled the darts from my back.

Once, when I was younger and clearly much dumber (also inebriated....won't get into that now), I was trying to unplug something from a wall socket. It was being extremely stubborn and was only coming out milimeters at a time. Once the leading edge of the plug was past the outlet, but the prongs still stuck, I curled my fingers around the edge to get a good grip and give it a final yank because it was ridiculous how long it was taking to yank this thing out of the wall.

Well needless to say I got a solid shock for a few seconds before I managed to unclench my fist and yank myself away. I felt that for a long time afterwards.

So, the lesson is when drinking with friends and something needs to be unplugged to make way for a kegerator, do not volunteer to be the one to yank the excalibur equivalent of plugs out of a wall socket.

Anyway, where was I going with this. Oh yea, does a Taser hurt more than grabbing onto bare prongs plugged into a wall outlet for a few seconds?

Tazer grenades? Those would be hella-fun at parties.

Dairy King: youtube the term "xrep". Its TASERs new shotgun taser. 100 feet range and 20 second ride. It's got four prongs that are basically straightened fish hooks that embed into your skin and the other half of the body drops down like 12 inches or so with makes contact with the skin completing the circuit.

During training, we were watching a video of the senior master instructor. He's been TASERED thousands of times and its the same every time, hasn't built up an immunity to it yet. If you watch the video, he's the one getting shot with it.

Hahahaha, that is just overflowing with wharrrgarbl jargon. My favorite was "very high tech integrated weapons platform that delivers taser intramuscular incapacitation".

It's prongs, a short length of wire and a battery shoved into a slug with soda can fins. They reiterate spin stabilization as if it's some revolutionary concept that hasn't been around for decades.

It's a neat taser slug for long range non-lethal, but good christ are they overselling that. They spout more buzzwords than a Japanese soft-drink ad.

When did we get to a point in society where we consider it socially acceptable to long-range electrocute people in the junk all the time?

I'm trademarking ElectroCute, by the way.

It's the satisfying taser for all your most personal tasering needs. It stimulates you or your partner in all the right places until you're quivering with delight (and from the several hundred volts of tender electric shocks every 15-20 seconds.) Best of all, it's pink and the metal prongs fly out of adorable bunny ears!

bhcompy: What the hell is a metre?

It is the distance light travels in 1/299,792,458 seconds. It was originally defined as 1/10,000,000 the distance from the equator to the North Pole along the meridian that runs through Paris.

There are, however, some backwards folks in the world who spell it "meter".

Can we just pass a law requiring that cops fill out a report to account for every time they fire their Taser^TM just like they have to for every bullet they expend?

If they have to do an hour of paperwork every time they fire the damn thing, then maybe they will stop viewing the general populace as mobile target dummies.

The idea: the Taser will allow police to use non-lethal force in situations where they only had access to lethal force in the past.

The Practice: any farking reason at all to whip that bad boy out.

Lip off: ZAP
Not following orders fast enough: ZAP
Not boot licking enough: ZAP
Protesting about getting a speeding ticket when you weren't speeding: ZAP ZAP ZAAAAAAAP

/its ok, they're her to help us

Poor policy enforcement on the use of less-than-lethal weapons shouldn't be used as an excuse to get rid of them anymore than its been a reasoning for getting rid of armed police officers.

Taser already has a 12 gauge shotgun shell that works as this new system is proposed to. They could probably put four slugs or more in place of the 40mm. Although using the preexisting launchers with such a shell would be an attractive option if your in an area where you still need things like grenades and flares.

As for suspects being tasered on the battlefield: Bear in mind they would have just been under the barrel of an assault rifle in a soldiers hands... So, its kind of an upgrade on their chances at living.

(and now, for no particular reason, gun porn!)

just2quixotic: Can we just pass a law requiring that cops fill out a report to account for every time they fire their TaserTM just like they have to for every bullet they expend?

If they have to do an hour of paperwork every time they fire the damn thing, then maybe they will stop viewing the general populace as mobile target dummies.


The paperwork wouldn't help, they'd just cut, paste, and print the same BS for every case.

It would be kind of like when they say "I felt threatened" every time they break into someone's house and shoot their dog.

BigBooper: The idea: the Taser will allow police to use non-lethal force in situations where they only had access to lethal force in the past.

What?

The Taser was NEVER marketed as a tool "only to be used when a gun would otherwise have been used."

The Taser is and should be at/near the top of the list for physical restraint methods used by police, as it's by far the safest method available of gaining physical compliance from a suspect.

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: And as soon as dolphins learn how to use those, we are DOOMED.

Fark you dorphin

BackinIndy: It would be kind of like when they say "I felt threatened" every time they break into someone's house and shoot their dog.

or when they shoot a guy in the back when he is handcuffed, or shoot a burn victim who is in shock

I've said it before, but I'll say it again.

The acceptance of Tasers means eventually police will use them prior to ANY interaction with civilians.

Need to question someone on the street? Use the Taser first.
Want to give someone a warning for jaywalking? Taser first.
Enter a building where a crime was committed? Taser everyone found.
Speeding car? Order everyone out, Taser them.

You just watch, it's already started.

/not kidding

Bendal: I've said it before, but I'll say it again.

The acceptance of Tasers means eventually police will use them prior to ANY interaction with civilians.

Need to question someone on the street? Use the Taser first.
Want to give someone a warning for jaywalking? Taser first.
Enter a building where a crime was committed? Taser everyone found.
Speeding car? Order everyone out, Taser them.

You just watch, it's already started.

/not kidding

You're a moron.

/not kidding.