"According to the late star's skin doctor..." Sounds like a reliable source.

see here is the thing, where was all this "truth" when MJ was alive? now, that hes dead, he will make even more money for sony et al. it was just a misunderstanding, now go buy MJ memorabilia, music, and movies.

MePod: "According to the late star's skin spin doctor..." Sounds like a reliable source.

/this one wants to buy you flowers

I don't know, that still sounds pretty inappropriate to me.

Didn't he also admit to sleeping in bed with children every night? Yeah, fark him.

Didn't little boys also say he molested them and wanted to masturbate with them? Yeah - I think children should be seen and heard. And believed.

Fark you, Michael Jackson. I know it's not your fault you were f*cked up, but fer kreissakes. WTF were you thinking, you nut job?

The doctor tells TMZ.com that Michael liked to pee for an audience

"Dr. Klein insists Jackson did not molest the boy, and says the reason he could describe Jackson's genitals is because Jackson liked to pee in front of other people. Dr. Klein said Jackson thought it was funny. Klein says there were numerous times when Jackson would pee in the doctor's home - around groups of people, including children."


Yeah...still not feeling any guilt whatsoever, but thanks for asking, subby.

yea, im with AdolfOliverPanties

its just weirder now..

maybe someone needs to talk to some of the children that are around the doctor. He sounds as strange as Michael, and sure seemed to think that peeing in front of kids was a treat for the whole family

kkoch499: its just weirder now..

Surprisingly, this has not raised the level of his creepiness for me.

Jon Lajoie (new window, very NSFW lyrics) has something to say about this.

How do I feel?



I guess his attorneys weren't sure if he would

Klein says there were numerous times when Jackson would pee in the doctor's home

They peed on my farking rug, man!

So he's a different kind of perv than I thought. He's into pedo-water sports.

Yeah, I feel so ashamed, subby.

stingrza: I don't know, that still sounds pretty inappropriate to me.

this.

If MJ was into water sports, he should have restricted the age of his audience.

who whips their balls out when taking a piss?

Trik: who whips their balls out when taking a piss?

Shaft!

I can dig it.

GreenAdder: Trik: who whips their balls out when taking a piss?

Shaft!

He whipped out his shaft and took a piss? Balls!

Rubber Biscuit: He whipped out his shaft and took a piss? Balls!

I'm just talkin' about Shaft.

AdolfOliverPanties: The doctor tells TMZ.com that Michael liked to pee for an audience

"Dr. Klein insists Jackson did not molest the boy, and says the reason he could describe Jackson's genitals is because Jackson liked to pee in front of other people. Dr. Klein said Jackson thought it was funny. Klein says there were numerous times when Jackson would pee in the doctor's home - around groups of people, including children."


Yeah...still not feeling any guilt whatsoever, but thanks for asking, subby.



What a delightful thing to do for a lark. He's dead, yada yada yada but the guy was a first-class freak.

So if your innocent you pay 20 million and destroy your career with millions of families? Who was advising the guy, Satan?

See, here's the thing people: My brother and I called him weird when I was six years old and my brother was four years old. I'm 30 now, so for nearly a quarter of a century I've known the man was weird! But in the same breath we begged our parents to take us to EPCOT so we could see Captain EO.

Sure, the same Jackson who was a hypochondriac, slept in a hyperbaric chamber, and wore masks to keep germs out of his lungs enjoyed stepping outside for a quick pee when there were always at least 20 people staring at him. He also somehow didn't notice the kid standing close enough to get a nice long thorough look at his dick and balls. So thorough in fact that the police sketch artist who sketched the picture of Jackson's nutsack for the prosecution said he felt like he had grown up next door, knowing Jackson's velvety yam bag intimately from a very young age. Never mind the fact that he routinely slept with the kids at his house. This Doc's story seems legit.

GreenAdder:
I'm just talkin' about Shaft.

Shut cho mouff.

relcec: Sure, the same Jackson who was a hypochondriac, slept in a hyperbaric chamber, and wore masks to keep germs out of his lungs enjoyed stepping outside for a quick pee when there were always at least 20 people staring at him. He also somehow didn't notice the kid standing close enough to get a nice long thorough look at his dick and balls. So thorough in fact that the police sketch artist who sketched the picture of Jackson's nutsack for the prosecution said he felt like he had grown up next door, knowing Jackson's velvety yam bag intimately from a very young age. Never mind the fact that he routinely slept with the kids at his house. This Doc's story seems legit.

Uh, the hyperbaric chamber has been debunked multiple times. Jackson "leaked" it himself to generate publicity.

Yes, because one of Jackson's sycophants can really be trusted. Please. 2-1 odds subby was right along with the rest of the world in laughing at "why did Michael Jackson go to K-Mart?" jokes and the like, and is now a gigantic hypocrite (along with much of the rest of the world, it seems) as so perfectly described in the Jon LaJoie song "Michael Jackson is Dead."

Aquadyne: relcec: Sure, the same Jackson who was a hypochondriac, slept in a hyperbaric chamber, and wore masks to keep germs out of his lungs enjoyed stepping outside for a quick pee when there were always at least 20 people staring at him. He also somehow didn't notice the kid standing close enough to get a nice long thorough look at his dick and balls. So thorough in fact that the police sketch artist who sketched the picture of Jackson's nutsack for the prosecution said he felt like he had grown up next door, knowing Jackson's velvety yam bag intimately from a very young age. Never mind the fact that he routinely slept with the kids at his house. This Doc's story seems legit.

Uh, the hyperbaric chamber has been debunked multiple times. Jackson "leaked" it himself to generate publicity.

Next you'll tell me paris hilton leaked her own sex tape I'm sure. Don't believe everything you read, do your own research.

I never understood why guessing that genitals were discolored was somehow the key. Look at his face and the rest of his body. It's a pretty safe assumption that his penis was discolored too.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Didn't little boys also say he molested them and wanted to masturbate with them? Yeah - I think children should be seen and heard. And believed.

Why? You act like none have ever made crap up to get someone in trouble.

"Unlikely" tag currently on vacation to Neverland Ranch, sobbing quietly.

Truly, a great entertainer.

//Sinatra never peed for nobody.
///Neither did Elvis or The Beatles!

Being an adult and whipping your dick out in front of a bunch of kids to pee... long enough and close enough so they would be able to identify said penis and markings by sight... yeah... I feel so guilty for thinking him a pervert. Whatever was I thinking....

ModernLuddite: Truly, a great entertainer.

//Sinatra never peed for nobody.
///Neither did Elvis or The Beatles!

Oh, yeah, GREAT examples there. Sinatra was a wannabe mobster, Elvis died on the can due to drug use and massive obesity and excess, and the Beatles hung out with Ringo Starr.

Monsters, all of them.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Didn't little boys also say he molested them and wanted to masturbate with them? Yeah - I think children should be seen and heard. And believed.

Fark you, Michael Jackson. I know it's not your fault you were f*cked up, but fer kreissakes. WTF were you thinking, you nut job?

Kids should not be believed as a default position unless you're their parent. Just like with rape, authorities should always, always maintain a healthy scepticism about claims of abuse.

Kids lie about sexual abuse all the time, especially when their parents encourage them to 'reveal' abuse for gain, whether it be financial gain, or the emotional gain the parent gets for being the parent of a victim and having awesome drama to centre attention on themselves.

And in particular, the 80s and 90s were an incredibly bad time. The position at that time was to believe the kids when they 'revealed' abuse, no matter how improbable or even impossible the revelation was, and to always disbelieve when they said later it never happened. Leading experts in the field were wrong about how to manage claims of sexual abuse in pretty much every way possible.

There was the 'satanic panic' where large groups of children admitted to horrible abuse that never happened prompted by both their parents and so-called specialists. And there was the 'recovered memories' fashion where false memories were created out of nothingness again by bad practice by so-called specialists.

It's been shown again and again that the belief that a child couldn't possibly make up such a story is just not supported by evidence.

None of us know whether or not Michael Jackson abused kids. He clearly was unable to grow up, and was weird, but that doesn't make him a molester. Peter Ellis (new window) is proof that being weird is enough to get you convicted of child sexual abuse in defiance of common sense. Given the clear 'secondary gain' motivation I would place my bet on it being an extortion racket by the parents.

Karen Zelas and Pamela Hudson (two of the 'experts' who drove this kind of rubbish) should be dropped down a dark hole and left to rot.

FTFA -- "Dr. Klein insists Jackson did not molest the boy, and says the reason he could describe Jackson's genitals is because Jackson liked to pee in front of other people. Dr. Klein said Jackson thought it was funny. Klein says there were numerous times when Jackson would pee in the doctor's home - around groups of people, including children."

No guilt. Still think that's a pretty f*cked up thing to do, and if someone can be branded a sex offender for drunkenly pissing in a bush, then the charge fits.

WFern: I never understood why guessing that genitals were discolored was somehow the key. Look at his face and the rest of his body. It's a pretty safe assumption that his penis was discolored too.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Didn't little boys also say he molested them and wanted to masturbate with them? Yeah - I think children should be seen and heard. And believed.

Why? You act like none have ever made crap up to get someone in trouble.

Just imagine if the kids told the parents that MJ peed in front of them.
Then it is the parents that would run with the story.

/Yes, I think MJ was a weierd-o.

So why did Michael Jackson go to K-Mart?

Those kids loved it and they know it.

Maybe they should have reconsidered their choice of clothing.

Not so provocative next time huh?

Horseshiat.

The kid probably walked in on him taking a piss in the bathroom without knocking, told his parents that Jackson had checkered junk, and it snowballed from there.

/Just a guess...

I'm not saying he's guilty, but I do not buy for a moment that someone whips out everything to take a leak. And wouldn't he still be holding it, and therefor covering up a decent amount with his hand?

picturescrazy: I'm not saying he's guilty, but I do not buy for a moment that someone whips out everything to take a leak. And wouldn't he still be holding it, and therefor covering up a decent amount with his hand?

Do you 'fist' your junk to pee? Thumb and forefinger is sufficient for most.

Hate to say it, but it seems to be another piece of the puzzle. That kind of behavior (delighting in exposing privates for any excuse) is why drunk college kids are graduating with Sex Offender status.

Some asshats realized that legitimate offenders had a penchant for any kind of exposure, and they chopped that single behavior off as its own "Sex Offense." Now Joe College gets an ugly surprise when he breaks the seal near a cop who probably isn't in any danger of being offended.

So good work, Mike. Generation Y didn't care much about your music, but you certainly affected their lives.

~Likes to pee with a three urinal buffer

Are you farking retarded sidcart42?

But Dr. Klein insists prosecutors would have failed to bring charges against Jackson if the case had gone to trial - because their whole case was based on the fact that the plaintiff could describe the discolouration of the pop star's testicles and penis.
The doctor tells TMZ.com that Michael liked to pee for an audience - and many people could describe the singer's genitals.

The website, which has obtained files from the 1993 molestation investigation, reports, "A deputy from the Santa Barbara Sheriff's Department noted the young accuser was able to describe - in explicit detail - the discolouration on Jackson's genital area... the result of Vitiligo.

"Dr. Klein insists Jackson did not molest the boy, and says the reason he could describe Jackson's genitals is because Jackson liked to pee in front of other people. Dr. Klein said Jackson thought it was funny. Klein says there were numerous times when Jackson would pee in the doctor's home - around groups of people, including children."

Oh well, then that's all "perfectly innocent".

Right "R. Kelly"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Kelly (pops)

Child pornography trial

Kelly had been accused of having relationships with underage girls before. None of the prior reports reached the level of publicity that followed the release of a video tape in February 2002. It allegedly showed Kelly and Sparkle's (a former Kelly protégée) 14-year-old daughter niece engaging in sex[citation needed]The tape, released by an unknown source, was sent to the Chicago Sun-Times, the newspaper that broke the story. Kelly denied that he was the man in the video[28] and at one point suggested that the man was his brother and not himself.[citation needed]

Bootleg copies of that tape became widely available on the black market and over file sharing networks. In June 2002, Kelly was indicted in Chicago for 21 counts of having sex with a minor, which were later reduced to soliciting a minor for child pornography, seven counts of videotaping the acts, and seven counts of producing child pornography.

After a number of delays, on October 27, 2006, a Cook County, Illinois court hearing for pre-trial motions set the date of the actual trial to February 7, 2007.[29] On the date of the trial Kelly's lawyer informed the court that his client was unable to attend because he was "undergoing surgery for a burst appendix". He also announced that Kelly was "in good condition and was expected to be released from the hospital later in the day." His attorney stated that Kelly (who pled not guilty) would be in attendance on the next trial date of February 21, 2007.[30] It had previously been announced by the court that the videotape that allegedly shows Kelly performing sex acts with an underage girl will be publicly shown as evidence in the trial.

The trial, however, was delayed due to disputes over when the tape was made and to give medical recuperation time to the sitting judge following a fall resulting in broken bones. Later the case was set for a September 17 date.[31]

It took more than six years for the case to go to trial. Jury selection began on May 9, 2008, and the trial officially started on May 20 with opening statements from the prosecution and defense. After two weeks, the prosecution's case wrapped on June 3 while the defense's wrapped six days later, on June 9. After less than a day of deliberations, on June 13, 2008 a Chicago jury found R. Kelly not guilty of all 14 counts of videotaping himself having sex with an underage girl.[32]
[edit] Additional child porn charges

In January 2003, Kelly was arrested in Florida on child pornography charges.[33] In June 2002, authorities searched his house in Davenport, Florida. Officers allegedly found pictures of underage girls as well as a video of Kelly having sex with an underage girl on a digital camera - wrapped in a towel in a duffel bag.[34] In March 2004 these charges were dropped due to a lack of probable cause for the search warrants.[35]

Sh-mona

jwilson07: So if your innocent you pay 20 million and destroy your career with millions of families? Who was advising the guy, Satan?

Look at the publicity surrounding the second case, there would have been far more damage done to MJ if he'd gone to court, even if the family were clearly lying like the other family was.

PickinWhiskers: picturescrazy: I'm not saying he's guilty, but I do not buy for a moment that someone whips out everything to take a leak. And wouldn't he still be holding it, and therefor covering up a decent amount with his hand?

Do you 'fist' your junk to pee? Thumb and forefinger is sufficient for most.


Unless I'm chasing the bubbles, I just let it hang out and let go. No need to aim.

/the water is cold
// deep too!

I don't necessarily believe he was a child molester, nor will I say he wasn't. All I know is, especially reading what Culkin said about why they got along so well, he was never allowed to have a childhood. Combine that with the abuse as a child and he was royally farked up. He definitely put himself into bad situations with kids to further bond with them and show them the love he never received. The only thing that we can be certain of out of this whole shiatty thing is that Joe Jackson needs to stay the fark away from MJ's kids.

Shadowknight: ModernLuddite: Truly, a great entertainer.

//Sinatra never peed for nobody.
///Neither did Elvis or The Beatles!

Oh, yeah, GREAT examples there. Sinatra was a wannabe mobster, Elvis died on the can due to drug use and massive obesity and excess, and the Beatles hung out with Ringo Starr.

Monsters, all of them.

Yeah, but Sinatra never extorted money from children. And Elvis didn't die in front of children for their benefit. And Ringo Starr was never a child, having been spawned from the dark untalented void that roams space.

But Michael Jackson whipped his cock out for the chilens.