Don't I remember that being said about Vista?

Dufus: Don't I remember that being said about Vista?

I generally dislike the "Hi I'm a PC" ad, but I got a good laugh the first time I saw the one that's airing now.

"Windows 7 won't have any of the problems Windows Vista had. Trust me."

"...won't have any of the problems Windows XP had."

"...won't have any of the problems Windows Me had."

"...won't have any of the problems Windows 95 had."

"...won't have any of the problems Windows 2 had. Trust me."

Only funny because it's true.

Just upgraded to Win7 Ultimate - shortest upgrade time ever. When I installed xp years ago, it took nearly a day to install the software, update drivers, download patches, blah blah blah. Took less than 2 hours this time.

We'll see about stability though.

I read that as "YOUR BUGLING MANTOOL" and I thought, "Well, isn't that something?"

I'm amazed at the number of Windows drones on Slashdot. I thought that place was full of Linux drones.

Ok, ignore my handle for a second here.

80% of the viruses written for windows ran on Windows 7? Really? WTF does that prove? The viruses are written for Windows. If you took ten viruses written for mac, and ten.... you know what forget it.

WINDOEZ SUX LOL BETTER BUY SOPHOS

Also news: Always wear a condom when having sex with a hooker.

Unixfreak: Also news: Always wear a condom when having sex with a hooker.

NOW you tell me!

Unixfreak: 80% of the viruses written for windows ran on Windows 7? Really? WTF does that prove? The viruses are written for Windows. If you took ten viruses written for mac, and ten.... you know what forget it.

Microsoft jumped through hoops to keep Windows backwards compatible with older software, and this software includes viruses.

Mac OS X is a fundamentally different framework than previous version of the OS, so the thirty-odd viruses written for the Mac don't run on any current Mac hardware. Then again, no Mac software from before 2001 will run on current Mac hardware either.

Microsoft has such a large market share that it can't make those sorts of moves. And because of that it will probably always have more viruses than the Mac because old viruses run on current hardware.

This isn't really news except to the most rabid fanboys.

I just did my clean install of Windows 7 and it's running perfectly fine. Of course, I don't have any DX10 games to test on it yet, so that will be the real test.

In regards to TFA...Of course you need to run AV on it...WTF? It's still a Windows system.

I've been running W7 for 3 months now. Love it so much more than XP. Rock solid, everything's compatible, etc.

Tried to install Win7 on my 8 month old PC. BSOD during first install, then it won't stay up for more than a minute in non-safe mode before BSODs. Latest drivers for everything. Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't show /dev/sda during install. XP doesn't recognize my drives. Only OS that works is Vista. f my life.

I have never gotten a virus in my entire life. I attribute that to not being a retard with computers. Oh, and Windows 7 is great.

Obvious article is obvious. Viruses are apart of using a Windows OS. If you want to look at porn all day, ad-blocker/AVG/googlechrome ftw.

/Or honestly when I have the cash for it, I'll buy a Mac specifically for porn and my iTunes collection.
//gamer

oldmildog: Tried to install Win7 on my 8 month old PC. BSOD during first install, then it won't stay up for more than a minute in non-safe mode before BSODs. Latest drivers for everything. Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't show /dev/sda during install. XP doesn't recognize my drives. Only OS that works is Vista. f my life.

I am betting you have sata drives. Find the vista drivers for your sata controller. They will work in 7 and save you the hassles.

gopher321: Just upgraded to Win7 Ultimate - shortest upgrade time ever. When I installed xp years ago, it took nearly a day to install the software, update drivers, download patches, blah blah blah. Took less than 2 hours this time.

We'll see about stability though.

Ya if your doing the 32 bit upgrade to 32 bit, or 64 bit to 64. Trying doing a 32 bit upgrade like i did. 43 - 64 is a bit harder. but I found it to be work it. No issues and my system runs pretty damn fast (quad core w/ 8 gb memory). On Vista Ultimat it was ok, but in Win 7, damn this hardware can move damn fast.

balin007: 43 32 - 64 is a bit harder.

warwithtostitos: Viruses are apart of using a Windows OS.

a.. part..

/the way you spelled it, your statement is completely false.

haven't had any problems with windows 7 so far. also, there is no replacement for good sense when dealing with computers. doesn't matter if you use a mac or a pc, if you're a dumbass you'll find some way to fark it up

It doesn't mention what was done to get them to run. Without that information, the article and the article linked from the linked article is worthless

Dicky B: warwithtostitos: Viruses are apart of using a Windows OS.

a.. part..

/the way you spelled it, your statement is completely false.

Err... wow, yep. I usually catch those kinds of typos, too...

Dufus: Don't I remember that being said about Vista?

That the bulging Vista will cause her scream?

My only problem so far with Windows 7 is that it's been making coasters out of my DVD+R DL's that burned fine in XP.

And that's saying a lot for an early adopted Windows OS, imotbqh.

The Icelander:
Microsoft jumped through hoops to keep Windows backwards compatible with older software, and this software includes viruses.

Mac OS X is a fundamentally different framework than previous version of the OS, so the thirty-odd viruses written for the Mac don't run on any current Mac hardware. Then again, no Mac software from before 2001 will run on current Mac hardware either.


As a developer I find myself explaining this to my less technical mac fanboy friends pretty frequently.

/And by the way, iTunes is a piece of crap. It's too stupid to realize and accept that I have multiple PCs

settle down meow: It doesn't mention what was done to get them to run. Without that information, the article and the article linked from the linked article is worthless

Pretty much. All it says is they got infected. It does not really explain anything more than that.

I am all for disliking MS, but everyone (including the mac guys and Linux guys) has to admit most issues get caused by the users, not the OS. If you need to run AV, run it. If your that stupid, to hell with you.

video man: I have never gotten a virus in my entire life.

As far as you know, anyway.

aneki: /And by the way, iTunes is a piece of crap. It's too stupid to realize and accept that I have multiple PCs

Try it on a Mac. Don't get me wrong--I'm not saying you should buy a Mac, but the people who develop iTunes for Windows are either A) incompetent to the point I think they're the people who moonlight and make MusicMatch is their spare time or B) Apple meddles and makes them release crap.

iTunes for Mac is like a totally different app. It ran faster on my 2.0 Ghz MacBook with 1 GB of RAM than it did on my 2.8 Ghz PC desktop with 2 GB of RAM.

Unixfreak: Ok, ignore my handle for a second here.

80% of the viruses written for windows ran on Windows 7? Really? WTF does that prove? The viruses are written for Windows. If you took ten viruses written for mac, and ten.... you know what forget it.

WINDOEZ SUX LOL BETTER BUY SOPHOS

Also news: Always wear a condom when having sex with a hooker.

People surprised by this must not understand what "backwards compatible" actually means...

Hender: "...won't have any of the problems Windows 2 had. Trust me."

I'm left wondering why they did 95 -> Win2 and not Win3.

Since the service pack I've had absolutely no problems with Vista on my laptop. But after reading comments here I'm more & more convinced to do a fresh install. It's not broken, I do not need to fix it... but I like new things.

Kar98: video man: I have never gotten a virus in my entire life.

As far as you know, anyway.

Windows users who boast they've never gotten a virus (and more specifically, that only "retards" get viruses) are to me like people who boast that they're able to drive home after drinking.

Windows 7 is awesome. Clean install time on my desktop: 18:36 from power on to desktop. Didn't come with drivers for my Linksys wireless adapter which was immediately fixed the first time I connected it to the internet.

/It takes longer to install video games than the entire OS. THAT is impressive.

Hender: Dufus: Don't I remember that being said about Vista?

I generally dislike the "Hi I'm a PC" ad, but I got a good laugh the first time I saw the one that's airing now.

"Windows 7 won't have any of the problems Windows Vista had. Trust me."

"...won't have any of the problems Windows XP had."

"...won't have any of the problems Windows Me had."

"...won't have any of the problems Windows 95 had."

"...won't have any of the problems Windows 2 had. Trust me."

Only funny because it's true.

If that add were accurate, Mac would have been a quadriplegic with 5 kinds of cancer in an iron lung from Windows 2 until Vista.

balin007: I am all for disliking MS, but everyone (including the mac guys and Linux guys) has to admit most issues get caused by the users, not the OS. If you need to run AV, run it. If your that stupid, to hell with you.

Thing I'm disliking with W7-64 and aftermarket firewalls/av in particular is there's so few options. Apparently a lot of the underpinnings have changed from Vista to W7.

BigG: Hender: "...won't have any of the problems Windows 2 had. Trust me."

I'm left wondering why they did 95 -> Win2 and not Win3.

Well, they only had 15 seconds, and the Windows 2 reference let John Hodgman sport the Miami Vice getup which is a funnier punchline.

Hender: Windows users who boast they've never gotten a virus (and more specifically, that only "retards" get viruses) are to me like people who boast that they're able to drive home after drinking.

Try: ...are to me like people who boast about all the sex they have without catching an STD...

Do you laugh at people for wearing condoms too?

Speaking of, anyone know a good cheap anti-virus program?

BigG: Hender: "...won't have any of the problems Windows 2 had. Trust me."

I'm left wondering why they did 95 -> Win2 and not Win3.

Because Windows 3 was the best version they ever released

hetheeme: If that add were accurate, Mac would have been a quadriplegic with 5 kinds of cancer in an iron lung from Windows 2 until Vista.

Perhaps, but it doesn't change the fact that Microsoft says pretty much that exact same thing every time.

TimeWaste: Since the service pack I've had absolutely no problems with Vista on my laptop. But after reading comments here I'm more & more convinced to do a fresh install. It's not broken, I do not need to fix it... but I like new things.

I've never done an upgrade on a Microsoft OS except my very first migration: 3.11 to 95. Never again, I decided. On my home system I used 98, 98 SE, Me, 2000, XP and Vista and I refused to do an upgrade and did a clean install every time after that. When Apple wanted me to an upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard on my MacBook Pro, I winced and went ahead with, and it was the smoothest OS install I've ever had. I completely forgot I'd upgraded and not done a clean install.

balin007: settle down meow: It doesn't mention what was done to get them to run. Without that information, the article and the article linked from the linked article is worthless

Pretty much. All it says is they got infected. It does not really explain anything more than that.

I am all for disliking MS, but everyone (including the mac guys and Linux guys) has to admit most issues get caused by the users, not the OS. If you need to run AV, run it. If your that stupid, to hell with you.

This is true. Running Linux won't help if you're the kind of person who will follow instructions like "okay...sudo ... passwd....and type password twice? Okay!". The point isn't whether or not that exact trick works, but whether or not someone will do whatever you tell them. And if you have idiots on staff, like 100% of companies of at least 20 people, you need antivirus to cover that idiot's ass.

That said, run Linux. It works, and the more people use it the more industry will actually support it. Why is everyone so excited to run off and pay $300 for a new OS when they're computer would work better for free? Probably the same reason people pay interest on credit card balances.

Postal Penguin: Hender: Windows users who boast they've never gotten a virus (and more specifically, that only "retards" get viruses) are to me like people who boast that they're able to drive home after drinking.

Try: ...are to me like people who boast about all the sex they have without catching an STD...

Do you laugh at people for wearing condoms too?

I like mine better. There are some inherent flaws to how Windows treats users and some of the architectural decisions Microsoft went with that leave some fairly large security holes. Having sex isn't inherently dangerous, while driving drunk is. You're only lucky for so long when driving drunk.

I can name a half-dozen different instances in which you don't have to have been a "retard" to have gotten a virus on Windows. Zero-day exploits, pre heavily emphasized updates.

MrCab: That said, run Linux. It works, and the more people use it the more industry will actually support it. Why is everyone so excited to run off and pay $300 for a new OS when they're computer would work better for free? Probably the same reason people pay interest on credit card balances.

I think you mean only pay interest on CC balances, yes? Or is your implication that only stupid people carry a balance on a CC?

Anyway, I'm an IT professional, and every year or so I get a hankering to try Linux again. This has been going on for about six or seven years, so I've been through a lot of history and a lot of distros. Linux has a long way to go until it's user friendly and convenient on the desktop. Ubuntu is getting closer with every release, but it's not there yet.

Here's my gold standard on OS usage: if you have to drop to a command line to do a common task (for example, installing video drivers), you're not there yet.

MrCab: That said, run Linux. It works, and the more people use it the more industry will actually support it. Why is everyone so excited to run off and pay $300 for a new OS when they're computer would work better for free? Probably the same reason people pay interest on credit card balances.

Because it doesn't just "work," and it definitely doesn't work better for my purposes than Windows.

StormnMormon: Speaking of, anyone know a good cheap anti-virus program?

I'd recommend Anti-Virus Pro 2009. It works wonders.

Did they really expect the UAC(user account control) to work as an AV? I wonder if they actually bothered installing the free software for windows 7 that is an AV(microsoft security essentials at http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/) which even Kaspersky thinks is pretty good(http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/kaspersky-security-esse ntials-to-impact-malware-market-639336).

No, just more M$ sucks whargargarbll

BigG: Hender: "...won't have any of the problems Windows 2 had. Trust me."

I'm left wondering why they did 95 -> Win2 and not Win3.

Because Windows 3 was farking awesome

So they completely ignored the message that says, "Windows 7 does not come with a virus scanner... please install one", and then claim there is something wrong when they then throw 10 viruses at it?

Wow... Next they'll have an paragraph about how if you unplug the network cable, it won't connect to the internet and the Mac fanbois will clap and say, "Oh yes... that's rich... bravo... bravo", before dry humping an 8 by 10 of Steve Jobs while grunting, "it just works... it just works."

And for the record... Win7 kicks ass, but if you need a virus scanner for it (like Microsoft suggests), there are plenty available. Even some free ones.

I'm happy to see all the viruses go to Windows 7, and I can be happy with my Vista.

/my vista has crashed less than xp
//the authentication boxes are annoying though

Unixfreak: you know what forget it.

I agree. Don't even bother.

StormnMormon: Speaking of, anyone know a good cheap anti-virus program?

Use Microsoft Security Essentials. It's free. It will never nag you. And it's low-resource.

JohnnyC: Wow... Next they'll have an paragraph about how if you unplug the network cable, it won't connect to the internet and the Mac fanbois will clap and say, "Oh yes... that's rich... bravo... bravo", before dry humping an 8 by 10 of Steve Jobs while grunting, "it just works... it just works."

WTF does that have to do with anything? The test was run by an antivirus vendor, not Apple.